First 1911 Arrived: Pics of Budget .45


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doc540
September 4, 2009, 09:10 PM
MetroArms budget .45 - "American Classic II Deluxe"

This is what I found when I opened the box.

To the range tomorrow...this is what I found when the package arrived at my FFL this afternoon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/AmericanClassic45003-1.jpg
(note date of test fire: 7/25/09..this must be a fresh one)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/AmericanClassic45006-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/AmericanClassic45007-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/AmericanClassic45009-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/AmericanClassic45011-1-1.jpg

My local FFL knows more about 1911's than I do, and he was impressed with the action, trigger, fit and finish.

I'll shoot it tomorrow, then drop it off with my gunsmith for his inspection and counsel.

Grips will be changed.

There's just something about owning my first 1911. Feels like a real semiauto pistol. It's not a Wilson, Baer, or Gold Cup, but if it fits my needs I'll work my way up to a premium 1911.

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Quoheleth
September 4, 2009, 09:17 PM
The gun look good in the pics. I hope it does for you what you want it to do (range, build, CCW, etc.) and does so accurately. Mind us asking a ballpark price figure (you always gotta brag about the deal you got...)

Q

doc540
September 4, 2009, 09:23 PM
Don't mind at all. I paid all the money and spent $449 on Gunbroker. I've only seen a couple of the AC II Deluxe's lately, so I just hauled off and snagged one.

I was feeling flush since I sold my HK last Wednesday night and did pretty good on it.

farmrboy
September 5, 2009, 03:02 AM
Where was it made? My bad eyes can't read what's on the frame. It looks exactly like a Firestorm that a friend has in his store, Which is made by Armscor (RIA). Same trigger, hammer and slide serrations. Armscor makes 1911's under many different names, just wondering if this is one of them.

doc540
September 5, 2009, 09:24 AM
Yep, Armscor makes 'em all coming from the Philippines.

doc540
September 5, 2009, 01:45 PM
Back from the range.

First report
Trigger is around 6lbs, gunsmith will tune that down just a bit
Sights are shooting about 2" right at 10-15yds, gunsmith will tune that too.
Gun shot perfectly, ate cheap Monarch hardball
Grip swap will help a little, but nothing critical.
Best gun for the money I've ever bought.

First eight rounds out of the gun, standing, 30 feet, about 2" right
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/Targets/AmericanClassic45Targets001-1.jpg

Second two mag's, 16 rounds, 30 feet, learning to compensate for the sight
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/Targets/AmericanClassic45Targets003-1.jpg

After 50 rounds down the pipe, here's 8 rounds at 30 feet, standing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/American%20Classic%20II/Targets/AmericanClassic45Targets004-1.jpg

Mad Magyar
September 5, 2009, 01:58 PM
Did you change the grips for aesthetics or function, or both?:confused:

doc540
September 5, 2009, 02:27 PM
Haven't changed anything yet.

If I do change them it will be because they help with my control.

modifiedbrowning
September 5, 2009, 03:05 PM
Yep, Armscor makes 'em all coming from the Philippines.

Nope. The Firestorm and American Classic pistols are made by Metro Arms which is a Philippine company. Look at the picture posted by the OP, the warranty card shown reads Metro Arms Corporation, not Armscor.

doc540
September 5, 2009, 04:44 PM
My bad, I thought Armscor made Mepro and everything else coming out of there or one factory was producing the parts for both.

And I am a fine print reader.;)

gunmn74
September 5, 2009, 05:03 PM
Nice looking gun without even without considering the nice price.

1911 Operator
September 5, 2009, 05:10 PM
nice looking 1911. i've never heard of this brand before.

doesn't look like you only paid $450 for it. doesn't jam either? well you can't beat that for the money ;)

1911 Operator
September 5, 2009, 05:12 PM
as for grips, the vz aliens are great. they're grippy as hell without being too abrasive.

dwave
September 5, 2009, 05:16 PM
I have the same pistol and found the accuracy very good. I ran 50 rounds through it without a single jam. So far so good. I got mine for an excellent $325!

cyclopsshooter
September 5, 2009, 05:30 PM
the barrel markings look just like the ones from rock island- maybe metro and armscor use the same parts maker?.?.?

earlthegoat2
September 5, 2009, 07:46 PM
there is one sitting at my LGS and its been there for about a month.

I cant believe no one has snagged it. For the 439 they are asking it would almost be worth it even if it didnt work. I also fondled it and was surprised at the feel. It didnt feel cheap at all and was quite smooth.

sigma 40ve
September 5, 2009, 08:26 PM
Seems like a nice 1911. My first was a pre out of business Springfield Armory(then), from back in the early 1980's. A friend traded it to me for a S&W 469 and $50. I have $240 in it, still sits in the safe.

Texas Colt
September 5, 2009, 09:25 PM
Welcome to the world of 1911s Doc. Nice gun.

Remember what I told you when you got your first Colt revolver? How one wouldn't be enough. The 1911 world is even bigger. If I was a fortune teller, I would say that I see more 1911s in your future. Have fun :evil:

doc540
September 5, 2009, 11:39 PM
Let me guess...you just happen to have an extra, vintage Colt 1911, and you're gonna let me buy it soon.;)

sarduy
September 6, 2009, 12:22 AM
Great gun. and Nice accuracy!

all you have to do now is

1. shoot it a lot

2. save the empty cases to reload them later ;)

goofy grape
September 6, 2009, 12:49 AM
Welcome to the 1911 world, great looking pistol and darned fine shooting doc. $445 on Gunbroker huh? I might have to check that out. Texas Colt is right, one ain't gonna be enough. There's a lot of different gun designs out there, but you were right in your original post too; there's just something about a 1911 that tells you, you've got a REAL firearm in your hand.

Dr_2_B
September 6, 2009, 12:58 AM
Thanks for sharing. I've gone a different direction than the 1911, but there's no arguing that it's a real handgun.

ROBBY.1911
September 6, 2009, 02:31 AM
who is the seller, i searched for metro arms on GB and got a blank. is the hammer on the gun in the pictures the one that comes from the factory? thanks much.--robby

C-grunt
September 6, 2009, 04:33 AM
Looks like a nice gun. I like the wood grips. Dont care much for the bicycle tire spoked hammer though. LOL.

Id say with the groups its putting out and the reliability, thats a good deal.

The Lone Haranguer
September 6, 2009, 07:06 AM
I am pleased to see that it is reliable from round one. I paid over twice as much for a different 1911 that wasn't.

I would like to offer a constructive criticism on that hammer: :barf:

doc540
September 6, 2009, 09:50 AM
For those looking for one on gunbroker, search "American Classic" in semi-auto's.

They make two models, a basic and a Deluxe.

HiVelSword
September 6, 2009, 01:26 PM
That is a helluva nice looking 1911 for the money! And by your groups it looks like a shooter as well!

But I'm along with the other guys that will take a pass on the hammer. Easily remedied tho. ;)

Congrats btw!

berkbw
September 6, 2009, 02:11 PM
Your hammer doesn't look like "everybody else" ... And you're shooting well. Never know, you might start a fad! Nice buy.

b-

nathan
September 6, 2009, 02:31 PM
I wonder whats the quality of the steel used ? Pretty cool looking as well.


http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=139375309

Sky
August 4, 2010, 11:07 PM
I saw your video on youtube I think! I purchased mine a little over two months ago and absolutely have no complaints. Put a crimsontrace laser grip 401L on the frame for night home defense but actually like the original grips. We could have paid a lot more but can't figure out why we would.

Sky
August 4, 2010, 11:13 PM
The hammer is a stylised M A for Metro Arms..Ref youtube

Roswell_Kid
August 5, 2010, 09:51 AM
Looks like a nice gun that deserves nice grips. Wood is OK, plastic too, but "plastic wood"? Your new friend deserves better!

MICHAEL T
August 5, 2010, 02:49 PM
THESE ARE NOT MADE BY ARMSCORE They are made by Metro Arms a entirely different NEW company . These begin coming to America in 2008 I have #78 American Classic Deluxe It has been a excellent pistol .
While I was demonstration them at this year NRA convention people were waiting in line to handle and ask questions. . Their is now the basic GI , Deluxe in blue and Hard chrome . Commander in Blue and Hard Chrome and the new Trophy model in Hard chrome only.
These pistols are 1911 compatible Sights can be changed on the Deluxe if desired . Use sights made for Colt Cut Dovetail..
Most people change the grips I will caution that some grips need a little sanding on L/grip as the extended slide release will interfere. .
As for the hammer if you look at it close that is a M and A over lay in their for Metro
Arms.
Now one last thing These are not Bersa 1911's as some dealers advertise. They are imported by same importer and use same warranty centers . Bersa has nothing to do with them . They just share same importer .
I have a area for the Metro Arms 1911 on my Board http:
//bersachat.com (http://bersachat.com) At present their still not coming into country in large numbers Hope that to change as year goes on .
Enjoy you Metro Arms American Classic . Mine will embarrass my Colts on the range.

trickyasafox
August 5, 2010, 05:16 PM
even though this is an old thread with new life- its worth mentioning that I, like the other ACII owners here- have been really happy with my gun. The American Classic II is one of the best 'sleeper' gun buys going in my opinion. When I got mine, the price had climbed to nearly 500 locally- which still makes it one of the cheapest 1911s your going to get. Mine feeds well, has very usable sights, and a great factory trigger. Enjoy it!

here is a review I did when I first got the gun:
http://gunzandshi*.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-classic-ii_30.html
replace the * with a 't'

have since put through several hundred more uneventful rounds.

achildofthesky
August 5, 2010, 07:50 PM
Thought/thinking about one in hard chrome...

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