Best all around .30-06 on the market?


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captainjoe
September 5, 2009, 03:33 AM
I may need to replace my trusty old .30-06. I am curious what you wise sages think is the best all around .30-06 currently on the market? I don't want to spend a fortune for some custom job, but I do want to spend enough that it will be around for years to come to pass on to my children. Any thoughts?

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Maverick223
September 5, 2009, 03:50 AM
The best bolt-action .30-06 for me would be a new model Winchester Model 70 featherweight. MSRP is set at $800.00, but IIRC I have seen them for about $725.00USD. It is a solid proven design, with a beautiful fit, and finish and a smooth action. If you like a composite stock I think the Browning A-Bolt Stalker is a nicer rifle, but MSRP is about $900.00. :)

R.W.Dale
September 5, 2009, 04:02 AM
You can't buy a bolt action 06 rifle from a major manufacturer that won't meet tour requirments 2x over. With the possible exclusion of a mossberg or rem 770/710


If you want a rifle that'll look new 50 yrs from now do yourself a favor and buy stainless. You'll thank me later.

tjrahl
September 5, 2009, 04:54 AM
With a few exceptions any facory bolt gun you buy today will deliver everything you need and more, the exceptions are the remington 710 (not 700 they are still great) and a few others.

As for all around bolt gun thats a tough one, and depends on how much you are willing to spend

captainjoe
September 5, 2009, 06:25 AM
As for all around bolt gun thats a tough one, and depends on how much you are willing to spend

How about a budget of $750-1000? I am always happy to spend less though!

goofy grape
September 5, 2009, 06:41 AM
Are you looking for a bolt gun or semi-auto? I plan on passing my Garand down to my nephew when the Ultimate 1st Sgt, calls the final formation. It was passed to me by my granddad and he carried it in Korea. It's been around for 60 years and still puts in a 2" group and 200 yds.

scythefwd
September 5, 2009, 06:45 AM
Krochus,
Not a fan of the ATR 100 or the 4x4? I'm just curious why that is? I've handled both and they felt nice and solid to me, but I haven't seen one after it had 1k rounds through it.

captainjoe
September 5, 2009, 07:18 AM
Prefer a bolt over a semi-auto. Don't know why the preference, except that is what I grew up with and enjoy the most. Funny that!

scythefwd
September 5, 2009, 07:25 AM
I hear great things about the Tikka t3. Savage makes good, inexpensive guns that are accurate. I'm not sure I have ever seen one with wood furniture (which I prefer).

islandphish
September 5, 2009, 07:34 AM
If I was looking for a hunting rifle then I would look at a BLR or a 760.

Both are plenty accurate and have the massive advantages of being easier to carry and quicker follow up shots.

Especially when looking at 30-06, these platforms stand out. The 760 carries one more round in the mag with '06 than .300win mag.

Geno
September 5, 2009, 07:42 AM
captainjoe:

Current prices on the Winchester model 70s in my area are:

Model 70 Ultimate Shaddow: $590.00
Model 70 Featherweight: $639.00
Model 70 Sporter: $639.00
Model 70 Super Grade: $990.00

Here is a link to the Winchester Model 70 splash page:
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=001C

Geno

mgkdrgn
September 5, 2009, 09:33 AM
Service grade M1 Garand from the CMP. :-)

missouri dave
September 5, 2009, 09:39 AM
I'd look at CZ's offerings.

ojibweindian
September 5, 2009, 09:57 AM
What do you require the rifle do? "Best" is subjective, and can only be defined in terms that are important to the individual.

Sav .250
September 5, 2009, 10:02 AM
As your asking for an opinion about the "best" then that`s what you`ll get.
Not saying those who give their opinion are right or wrong just stating a fact.
What`s the best to one is ordinary to another. Considing you have bolts,pumps,auto`s, single shot and lever action, then with out defining "Best"
it`s kind of hard to pick out one. In that cal, I like a bolt action myself.
Just my opinion of course. :)

SalchaketJoe
September 5, 2009, 10:04 AM
Winchester model 1895.

jmr40
September 5, 2009, 10:42 AM
Winchester 70 or Ruger Hawkeye are the best hunting rifles in that price range. For a few dollars more I would include the Kimber.

Mr_Pale_Horse
September 5, 2009, 10:48 AM
Over the last few years, I have used a handful of new manufacture bolt actions.

Browning A-Bolt White Gold Micro Medallion
Tikka T3
Ruger M77 MkII Stainless/synthetic stock

The Browning was by far the nicest looking. The Browning and Tikka shot extremely well. The Tikka and Ruger both carried nicely. Of the three, I would take the Tikka, since in seemed the best value for a hunting rifle. The Browning is just too pretty to carry around :D

The new FN/Winchester Model 70 is next on my list.

achildofthesky
September 5, 2009, 11:29 AM
Just buy a lightly used Rem 700 on GB or the like and be done with the task for well under $500 and live happily ever after.

R.W.Dale
September 5, 2009, 11:46 AM
Krochus,
Not a fan of the ATR 100 or the 4x4? I'm just curious why that is? I've handled both and they felt nice and solid to me, but I haven't seen one after it had 1k rounds through it.

Even compared to the Marlin xl7 or Stevens 200 the mossberg has a crudeness of finish and materials about it.

Mr_Pale_Horse
September 5, 2009, 11:49 AM
Oh, I forgot I tried a Howa/Hogue out 3 seasons ago and was pleasantly surprised. Of the rifles I mentioned above, the Ruger I would not recommend since it is so unpleasant to shoot from the bench.

Also, I shoot a sporter Springfield 03A3 every other year or so. It is a bit heavy.

spartywrx
September 5, 2009, 01:42 PM
Service grade M1 Garand from the CMP. :-)

I second that. My M1 will never be resold. I'll hang onto it forever

benzy2
September 5, 2009, 01:54 PM
Best to me would be a CMP M1 Garand. From there it gets a little hairy. I really like Savage rifles. They seem to all shoot outstanding. The accutrigger is as good as most factory triggers get and the blade can be removed if it annoys you. Its not as pretty as many and doesn't have the heritage of say the Winchester but they really really seem to shoot. The new Winchester model 70 seems to be put together very well. I haven't shot one though. I LOVE CZ firearms. Their adjustable set trigger is amazing. It blows everything else factory out of the water. Some of them don't feel amazing in the store before they get a little adjusting done but afterward they can't be beat. Whats even better is that it really is like having two triggers, a hunting trigger and a bench trigger, all in one. The unset mode adjusts down to around a pound and the set trigger is even lighter. The unset mode can be adjusted to be very crisp. All around it works great. They tend to shoot well also. Today though everyone seems to make a rifle that will hold MOA or better.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
September 5, 2009, 01:59 PM
About the best *value* rifle going right now is the T/C Icon - take a look at it.

jakk280rem
September 5, 2009, 02:05 PM
new sako 85's can be had in your price range.

the aformentioned winchester 70.

i really like the new browning x-bolt. very lightweight. 60 degree bolt lift, and it hops to my shoulder like it was made to fit.

the new thompson-center icon is really nice. never shot one, but i put my hands on one and they are well fit using nicely polished metal and a grade of wood that looks like it belongs on a more expensive rifle.

just go to a well equipped shop and start trying them on. pick your materials, wood or synthetic, blued steel or stainless. pick your action, 90 degree or 60 degree bolt lift, controled round feed or push feed, and pick one.

gga357
September 5, 2009, 02:17 PM
Model 70.

Maverick223
September 5, 2009, 02:23 PM
Winchester model 1895.I have been looking for one of those for ages.

The Doc. is right the Icon appears to be the best deal in the marketplace right now. :)

Arkansas Paul
September 5, 2009, 02:24 PM
With a $1k budget, you could buy a weatherby vangaurd and still have $600 to spend on a good scope. My vangaurd shoots like a dream.

Runningman
September 5, 2009, 02:32 PM
CZ 550 American if you want a accurate classic blue steel, wood look. Controlled Round feeding. Barrels are hand lapped at the factory so the barrel bore has a excellent surface finish for a production rifle. Action can be a little rough cycling when new but gets better with use.

Tikka T3 stainless synthetic if you want a good accurate light weight 30-06 for wet conditions. Very smooth action. Barrel bore has a excellent surface finish for a production rifle.

Both are generally very good shooters out of the box. Both have good positive extractor designs.

The new Sako A7 might also be worth looking at in your price range. I own a few Sakos but not this model so no actual experience with it.

sonier
September 5, 2009, 02:32 PM
remington 700, few reasons, very accurated plenty of aftermarket parts. gunsmiths all over work on these guns.

wyohome
September 5, 2009, 02:41 PM
I have a Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic that has the best trigger of any rifle that I have ever fired. They make a Model 8400 that is long action for the 30-06 length round that likely has the same trigger. They are beautiful rifles with a lifetime warranty that I will be proud to hand down to someone someday.

uvausmc
September 5, 2009, 02:43 PM
I just got a Ruger No. 1 light sporter in .30-06. I don't know if you would call it the best "all around" rifle for that caliber but i'm pretty confident that it is going to work out great on whitetails this season. it's very light, well-balanced, and much shorter than other .30-06's would be with the same length barrel.

Marlin 45 carbine
September 5, 2009, 02:43 PM
another vote for the BLR.

mljdeckard
September 5, 2009, 02:51 PM
I always start with a Remington 700 and then decide if there's any reason to use anything else. (There usually isn't, for me at least.)

TexasEd
September 5, 2009, 04:52 PM
Check out the Ruger Model 77 MarkII or the newer Hawkeye. They build a good rifle with solid features. The customer service is as good as any other. They come with rings and in many configurations. They work well. Three position safety and controlled round feeding. Also go to a large gun store with a big inventory and get your hands on this stuff. You may like one over another. Good Luck!

tjrahl
September 5, 2009, 04:58 PM
I vote for the 700, few bolt guns have as many aftermarket accessories and pre made stock options as a Remington does, Remington 700 triggers from the factory can be adjusted down under 3 pounds, far more adjustment than is needed for hunting. And if you want to you can take it to a gunsmith anywhere in the the U.S. absolutely confident that he has seen and worked on many before.

As for my other choices
Rugger m77, i don't like the looks but it gets props for function reliability and durability
Weather by, its a howa action made in japan, that does not detract from the wonderful function of the gun, i just prefer to buy American, the vanguard is i believe still made in paso Robles California tho.

PandaBearBG
September 5, 2009, 05:05 PM
Remmy 700 or Savage, can't go wrong with either. The new Savages are on par with the Remmy's now and a tad bit cheaper leaving your budget a bit more for optics.

Uncle Mike
September 5, 2009, 05:53 PM
Savage-

Stainless Synthetic...Accustock, Accutrigger Model 16(short), 116(long)

Blue and Walnut... Accutrigger, Model 14(short), 114(long)

Tikka T-3

Marlin...XS(short), XL(long) 7

Did I say Mossberg...??? It has been a looong day.

Thanx Tad!

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
September 5, 2009, 06:34 PM
I think you mean Marlin, UM.

Since EVERYONE chambers a .30-06, you're really asking "What's the best rifle?" As always, Sako, Steyr, Weatherby Mark V, Kimber, and Cooper all come to mind. But as I mentioned above, the Icon is the best value in my mind (AND *arguably* the best period). The Brownings, upper Remingtons, CZ 550s, FN, Winchester, and upper Savages are certainly no slouches either. Sure budget rifles will fill the bill and are *very good* but I dunno about BEST.


The ubiquitious turnbolt rifle is what you want.

But a Sako 85 is always a good starting point for the BEST in a centerfire rifle.

homers
September 5, 2009, 10:53 PM
How about a ER Shaw Mark VII for $850-$1200. You tell them the specs and they build it for you.

KenWP
September 5, 2009, 11:26 PM
Model 70 Winchester. What eles could a fellow need or want.

BillyDa59
September 6, 2009, 12:10 AM
Model 70 Winchester. Personally, I think the older ones are made better. I inherited a featherweight from my grandfather. It's a wonderful gun. Haven't gotten a chance to hunt with it yet but it's still a very likable gun.

content
September 6, 2009, 12:44 AM
Hello friends and neighbors /// I never had a bolt action rifle so can't help you there.

If you can try an old remington 760 (around $300.00 - $450.00) or new 7600 $620.00, I would.

IMHO ;Fast, pump action ( with left hand ) allows continued view through scope and quicker return to target, accurate ( even my 1968 series ), carries well and cleans up easily. 760/7600 also come with iron sights (most bolt action rifles do not) so if you bump scope you are not necessarily done for the day.

Counting the carbines there were over 1 million remington model 760 sold . I have one in 30.06 . Remington would not have sold that many if there were problems.

I chose my 30.06 760 gamemaster because of my life long usage of the 12ga. 870 wingmaster. They are twins in action, trigger pull, safty position and cleaning so I don't have to think in new ways. ;- )

The hunt for a firearm that suits you is half the fun. Hope you enjoy it, and get a great deal.

Malamute
September 6, 2009, 01:11 AM
"I may need to replace my trusty old .30-06...."


You didn't say why you may need to replace it, or what it is? It may be OK. Whatever the reason to replace it is, may be something thats not terminal.

Arkel23
September 6, 2009, 01:27 AM
Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA, look no more!!

Mini30
September 6, 2009, 01:45 AM
Went through the same search last month, and found a Ruger Model 77 Mk II; stainless with Boyd laminated stock. Very happy with the choice.

Had looked closely at a Howa Model 1500, the same gun as the Weatherby Vanguard, which Howa manufactures for Weatherby. Price on a private sale through THR trading post made the difference.

Note I do have a CMP M1, but I'm not comfortable running higher-end hunting handloads through the Garand. Strictly M2 ball, and M72 Match; or equal.

As an aside; daughter REALLY likes the Remington 750 in .308; not a bad rifle to consider in 30-06 if you decide to go for a semi for reduced recoil on older joints :-)

It is all quite subjective though. What is the rifle you are currently using?

wyohome
September 6, 2009, 02:36 AM
As an aside; daughter REALLY likes the Remington 760 in .308; not a bad rifle to consider in 30-06 if you decide to go for a semi for reduced recoil on older joints :-)

Rem 760 is a pump, what am I missing here?

Mini30
September 6, 2009, 03:00 AM
You are correct; typo on my part. Meant Remington 750; the new version of the 740

captainjoe
September 6, 2009, 07:23 AM
You didn't say why you may need to replace it, or what it is? It may be OK. Whatever the reason to replace it is, may be something thats not terminal.

Very good question! It's a very old Remington 721 that I was given years ago that has been a brilliant shooting rifle. Nothing fancy, just gets the job done.

However, the extractor died on it. We are the process of trying to replace the extractor with an original used part. (very hard to find, but we found one and paid a premium for it) If this doesn't do the job, our next option would be doing a Sako extractor conversion job, but this is starting to cost beyond the value of the gun in my opinion. Particularly because there are a number of things I would like to change about the gun anyhow, such as a removeable clip (or at least a bottom unloading one) and I would to like to get a decent walnut with a raised cheek piece set up for a scope. Parts for the 721 are not that easy to find and when they are found, they are generally expensive. So me thinks its time to move onto another platform that will give me much cheaper and varied customization/repair options.

If I can fix the 721 with the part we have found, I'll keep it for a backup gun... but I think I want to invest money in something else as my primary gun.

There is a lot in this thread which I will go research on. I really appreciate the feedback from everyone!

Horsemany
September 6, 2009, 09:06 AM
Ruger Hawkeye. I own WAAY too many rifles. Weatherby MKV's, Kimber 8400, Sako 85, Remington 700's, Winchester M70's(1 pre 64 Supergrade), Browning A-Bolt Medallion, Tikka T3, Howa etc.

The gun I grab every season because I know it will get the job done, carries well, points well, has a no nonsense 3 pos safety, and is so durable I could chop would with it, is the Ruger 77 Mk II.

The Hawkeye has a little slimmer updated feel and slightly improved trigger. IMO it'll provide a lifetime of reliable service and is well made. Every year I'll buy something more exotic and modern but it's been 10 years now that I rarely pack up anything besides that Ruger the night before opening day.

Malamute
September 6, 2009, 11:29 AM
I would add another nod to the Ruger 77. I tend towards the older tang safety models, but the newer ones have many fans. All I've owned have been good shooters, and well made guns. The ring/base system is excellent. Never heard of a Ruger base becoming loose.


It is good to have a back up rifle. Good luck with the Remington.

blackops
September 7, 2009, 02:04 AM
Winchester M70 Featherweight. Light, durable, dependable, and most of all scary accurate. Voted the number one hunting rifle model of all time and it's track record has proven it. I have it chambered in 270. I mounted my loopy on it, sighted it in, and shoot groups at 100yds that a quarter could cover. Once I discovered how accurate it was I started scooting back. I hit the 1/4 mile mark (440yds) and then I officially was hooked on it. I love Remington as well, but when it comes September and I get buck fever the winchester gets all the attention.

s e a
September 7, 2009, 02:33 AM
Tikaa T3 lite stainless, beautiful action, very accurate, very light for an all day carry hunting rifle, $600 not including ffl or shipping. I love the trigger, adjustable from 2-4lbs, I set mine down to about 2.5.

Got the limbsaver (#10011) recoil pad for it, because at 6lbs, 3oz it kicks pretty hard and the stock recoil pad seems to be made out of brick...almost ;)

WVMountainBoy
September 7, 2009, 02:41 AM
Savage FTW :) Always been a fan of their actions and the new triggers are very nice.

Leaky Waders
September 7, 2009, 08:59 AM
I'm been kind of virtually shopping for the same thing. Eventually I'm pretty much settled on a 270 winchester featherweight for when I get home.

I'm still open to a 3006. I have an 1895 - miroku highgrade that wouldn't be good for hunting. I mean it shoots very well, but I don't want to scope it. We just shoot paper with it every now and then. For reloading, some people tend to favor a bolt vs the lever here's a link

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/model_1895.htm

I would not get a garand. It's definately not the best all round gun. I mean it's a good gun. But if you read about them, you'll find thay your basically limited to military ball ammo...so hunting for the most part is out.

Chuck hawks reviewed the sako 85 and comments on it's controlled feed. it seems it's really not the controlled feed that one thinks of. He also comments that tikka's have small hmmm i forget what he calls it...loading ports? compared to other rifles, making it harder to singly load.

So for me, I plan on looking hard at the new fn featherweights. I'll also look at a-bolts and x-bolts and savages.

TX Hog Hunter
September 7, 2009, 11:29 AM
No question a Ruger M77 Hawkeye, preferably the stainless with brown laminate stock.

Tough, accurate, great feel and handling, positive safety and comes with quality scope rings.

Neo-Luddite
September 7, 2009, 11:37 AM
M-1 from CMP

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