Which Ruger No. 1?


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Hammerhead6814
September 6, 2009, 01:07 AM
So apparently the Ruger No. 1 has accuracy that can't be beaten for it's price. I just got off the phone with a relative who's bought the .30-06 version and he wouldn't shut up about how it held five shots under an inch at 100 yards. Three times in a row.

Thing is now I want one! I've always been more of a mil-surp guy, but if an AR-15 guy is crazy about it then there must be something to the No. 1.

So what caliber is best for deer and for the results that occurred above? I don't want to buy the same rifle, what fun would that be?

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SHusky57
September 6, 2009, 03:09 AM
.308 is pretty similar to .30-06. If you reload, get one of the zany calibers in .30 cal.

Maverick223
September 6, 2009, 03:26 AM
Doubt that you want to do likewise, but I am considering a Tropical chambered in .458Lott or .416Rigby...and despite what people may say it will kill a deer...besides you said you wanted different right? :D

C-grunt
September 6, 2009, 03:30 AM
I would get one in 7mm mag. I had one a long time ago and sold it because I am a fool. Probably the only gun I really regret selling. It shot pretty good even though I was still learning the trade. Also with the 7mm mag you have an excellent long range round for some long range competition with your relative.

skidooman603
September 6, 2009, 05:43 AM
If I could just stop buying Mil-Surp guns long enough to afford a commercial rifle THIS is the one I would get in my FAVORITE cal. 6.5x55 swede

bpl
September 6, 2009, 10:26 AM
A 6.5x55 swede or 7x57 mauser would be cool!

cat_IT_guy
September 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
.35whelen would be cool I think in a nice single shot like a no 1. Having said that Im not sure its an option....

Bill B.
September 6, 2009, 01:18 PM
So apparently the Ruger No. 1 has accuracy that can't be beaten for it's price. I just got off the phone with a relative who's bought the .30-06 version and he wouldn't shut up about how it held five shots under an inch at 100 yards. Three times in a row.

Actually I had been told the opposite that the triggers were not very good and that accuracy was suspect. I bought a Ruger No. 1 in 30-06 anyway because I have always like their looks and the way they handled. I had a friend give me a bunch of 30-06 ammo and I installed a 3.5 x 10 scope on mine and headed to the range. Bore sighted the rifle at 50 yards and got it grouping at 50 yards. Moved my target to 100 yards and my next 3 shots went into a clover leaf that could be covered with a nickel and centered in the bull! I did no more adjusting on the scope afterward! Mine has a pretty nice clean trigger pull also. My Ruger No. 1 is the Alexander Henry model that has the iron sights and IMO it is one fine rifle!

22-rimfire
September 6, 2009, 01:30 PM
I almost bought one in 375 H&H. Thought about it and decided I really didn't need another rifle I would rarely shoot and one that caused me pain. :)

uvausmc
September 6, 2009, 06:32 PM
I recently got a No.1 light sporter in .30-06. I'm not sure which version your relative has. Mine is very accurate but I wouldn't say it's accuracy can't be beaten for the price. My Weatherby Vanguard will shoot just as well if not better (MOA or smaller) and it was half what I paid for the No. 1. That aside, the No. 1 is a beautiful and simple rifle. It is light, handy, short even with a full length barrel, and very quick to shoulder and fire. I plan on breaking mine in on deer this season and I know it will be perfect for carrying arround the woods stalking whitetails. Your relative picked a great caliber so I dont think it would be a bad thing to get the same caliber but you could always go for .308, .270, or one of the quarter-bores. All would work fine on your average deer.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh41/uvausmc/RugerNo1.jpg

engravertom
September 6, 2009, 10:28 PM
Ruger #1 is VERY handy in 45-70!

Recoil with most loads is not bad. The 375 H&H, as that version is heavier, wasn't too bad either. You know you are shooting something though!

375 H&H, flat enought for deer hunting, hits hard enought for very big game.

45-70 is my favorite in the #1 followed by the 30/06, in the A version, with open sights. The peep sight made by NECG works very well also.

Take care,

Tom

PT1911
September 6, 2009, 10:38 PM
I want one in 460 S&W

rangerruck
September 7, 2009, 01:48 AM
I was at the range today, firing a variety of pistols, ak's and such, and was sighting in some saigas to do some pig hunting. a dude sits down next to me with a number 1. first off, it looked not only beautiful, but light, with a nice recoil pad on it. Secondly, he was firing a 45/70 cart , he had handloaded with 350 grainers. When he fired it, you could def tell, this rifle was king of the hill at the point in time, his made the king kong sound!!! but in watching him, recoil did not seem to bad, it did not throw him back like expected.
then I looked downrange, at the 50 yd shoot an see targets he had up;
I could clearly see the holes , on the target, at 50 yds!!!! Impressive. no glasses, scope, nothing, just my plain eyeballs.
Made me want one real bad, as he continued to bang away at about a 1 inch group at 50 yds, with a 45/70. You know if you hit a deer with a hole that big, and about an ounce and a half of lead, it would have to pick it up, and throw it on the ground. I liked it very much. he said he also loaded it with 420's or 450 grainers sometimes.... what do you hunt in Texas with that?
Must be going after Chupacabra...

Maverick223
September 7, 2009, 02:20 AM
Must be going after Chupacabra...That's a myth...perhaps he's trying to bag a bigfoot. :D I have to say that if the No. 1 is as much fun as my 1885, then .45-70Govt. would not be a bad choice...though I would still go with .458WM because you can always load a .458 like a .45-70...and brass will last a long, long time. :)

RonE
September 7, 2009, 10:52 AM
I have owned Ruger No1's in 22-250, 7mm Rem Mag and 30-06. They are wonderful rifles that handle very well for average sized people. They are in my opinion, a little on the heavy side.

Are they accurate? I would have to say yes with reservations. My 22-250 was a tack driver, the 7mmRem Mag would consistently shoot 2" 100yd groups all day long which was very frustrating.....The 30-06 I had re chambered to 30-338Win Mag and it's accuracy would put the 22-250 to shame. It would shoot Ballantines about 70% of the time if I concentrated. I have since had it re chambered again to .300 Win Mag and hope it shoots half as good as it did.

I really like the No.1 rifles and have killed lots of deer and elk with mine at ranges out to 500+ yards.

My advice is to go out and buy a Ruger No 1 and see if you like it, if you decide that you don't feel comfortable with it, then sell it, they seem to keep their value pretty well.

dubbleA
September 7, 2009, 11:37 AM
They can be quite accurate at times. I got lucky with one that's a shooter.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f268/dubbleA/Targets/z1.jpg

jkingrph
September 7, 2009, 11:41 AM
I have #1's in 22 Hornet, 7x57, 30-06, 375H&H and 458 Win Mag.

As to accuracy, they are not up to a good bolt gun, but more than adequate. Triggers with a little work can be excellent.

All that said I wish I could get one in 9.3x74R, 405 Win, 450/400 and maybe a 416 Rigby. Oh yes, add a 6.5x55.

Sc0
September 7, 2009, 11:52 AM
My vote would be for .405 Winchester or the .45-70. From their you can go smokeless and FMJ or blackpowder and cast.

I have a stainless/laminate in .45-70. 405gr and cast bullets and 50gr of Varget is a pretty stiff load to shoulder....

browningguy
September 7, 2009, 12:00 PM
The 1A light sporter is by far the most elegant of the Ruger, and any caliber from .243 to 30-06 would make a fine deer rifle.

earlthegoat2
September 7, 2009, 02:43 PM
I have heard they have very spotty accuracy at best but......

I absolutely love the No 1s and feel that pinpoint accuracy is the most overrated things in shooting in America today.

Ill take my No 1 in International guise in 6.5x55 or 7x57. I would really want a 257 Roberts though and those cant be had with the full stock unless I could find the stock and put it on later.

pangloss9
September 7, 2009, 05:48 PM
I have a Ruger No1-B in 270 Win. I would buy the rifle again without hesitation. However, there are plenty of calibers that would be just as good. To me, one of the big benefits is the shortness of the action. I have a 26" barrel, but the rifle is no longer than a bolt action with a 24" barrel. The extra two inches of barrel length lend themselves well to shooting heavier bullets with slower burning powers. I like the 160gr Noslers for the 270. Without scope the rifle weight 8.25 pounds, so it's a bit heavy. Maybe I should check into a No1-A. I didn't realize they were 1.25 pounds lighter until I just checked.

sig220mw
September 7, 2009, 06:13 PM
I've always loved the looks of the ruger no. 1's. But I have read over the years that their accuracy is spotty. One will be very accurate and the next not so accurate. Because of this, I have reasoned that their price is too much for me to spend on a rifle with such a track record. Too bad because like I said, I love the looks of the no. 1 and follow up shots can be made rather rapidly with practice once you have confidence in your load.

testosterone
September 7, 2009, 07:00 PM
.375 Holland and Holland.

Maverick223
September 7, 2009, 07:40 PM
dubbleA, recoil must be fierce on that .416Rigby...it takes a lot to shear a scope ring off like that. :neener:

dubbleA
September 7, 2009, 08:09 PM
dubbleA, recoil must be fierce on that .416Rigby...it takes a lot to seer a scope ring off like that.
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The recoil is very brisk to say the least off the bench but is very managable off of sticks. I have been brushed a couple of times by the scope but the PH's have a blunt rubber covering on the eye peice and it is spring loaded so it absorbs some recoil.:D

Maverick223
September 7, 2009, 08:17 PM
I mis-spelled "shear"...above...and left out the "h" completely...anyways I didn't realize that the Swaros had that...I am considering putting one of those on my big bore (that I am yet undecided on..either a Ruger No. 1, or a CZ 550 chambered in .458WM...probably the latter). BTW, I don't find a .416 to be all that bad...but haven't shot one from the bench (and have no intentions to do so)...and can't afford to shoot it for extended sessions. :)

jkingrph
September 7, 2009, 10:04 PM
I've always loved the looks of the ruger no. 1's. But I have read over the years that their accuracy is spotty. One will be very accurate and the next not so accurate. Because of this, I have reasoned that their price is too much for me to spend on a rifle with such a track record. Too bad because like I said, I love the looks of the no. 1 and follow up shots can be made rather rapidly with practice once you have confidence in your load.
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My little 1-a in 7x57 is the least accurate. It's one of the 70's vintage models with a very long throat. I get very good accuracy with the long 160gr Hornandy's and a short lightweight spitzer is spotty. They all give hunting accuracy, just not pinpoint target accuracy, but then the 1-a is a carrying, stalking rifle, not a real target gun.

Robert Wilson
September 8, 2009, 12:30 AM
The reputation for "spotty" accuracy comes from two problems: barrels, and the spring hanger.

Before Ruger installed their own hammer forging facilities they outsourced barrels, some of which were not very good. This is no longer an issue.

The spring hanger remains a bug-a-boo. Most of the time it is not a problem. The big bores, with their very stiff barrels, are rarely affected. But the light barrels, like the lovely 1-A contour, are sometimes unhappy. It has been my experience that the unhappy ones (extreme vertical stringing is the symptom) almost always respond to drilling and tapping the hanger, installing a screw through it, and using the screw to force the hanger away from the barrel. For those not interested in DIY, the Hicks Accurizer (http://www.eabco.com/HicksAccurizer1.html) accomplishes the same thing.

dmazur
September 8, 2009, 07:46 AM
I finally got a chance to shoot my Ruger #1's (after the gunsmith finished working on them...)

.30-06 is doing 1" to 1.2", depending on loads. Handloads consisting of Varget and 150gr SST's seem to work best.

.243 is doing 0.5" to 1", depending on loads. Handloads of Varget and 95gr SST's are best of what I've tried.

This is so much better than these two 1A's did before rework it isn't even funny.

Tuneup work: PacNor barrels (heavier than 1A contour), Wenig laminated stocks to make them a 1AB, free-float barrels by bedding forend to spring hanger and receiver, polish factory trigger to 3#.

So, if you're truly crazy about Ruger #1's, you can do something like what's described above. :)

KenWP
September 8, 2009, 08:03 AM
I bought one brand new almost for $350 bucks. The guy who bought it was a little tiney guy and he tried to sight it in and never got through a box of shells as it is in 375 HH and he whimped out. I actually picked it up for a freind of mine that wanted it and once I got it in my hands couldnt part with it. Told him it had been sold.
It's great to reload for as they make a smaller bullet for it also and of course the 270 grain bullet can't be beat. I am a left handed shooter but right handed so it's the best of two worlds for me as I can work the action with my left hand when with a bolt action I can't due to a useless left hand except to pull the trigger.

Zeke/PA
September 8, 2009, 08:04 AM
I own a 200th Year #1 in .270 and also a Varminter in .25-'06 and after some forearm work on both, they shoot sub1" groups with reloads.
I am always on the market for a #1 in non-magnum calibers and I would like to have one in 7MM Mauser.
Missed the boat awhile back on a #1 in .22 Hornet and I'm still kicking myself.
Ruger #1's are fine rifles.

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