[Gary O]

Are the quality of these knives any good? I am just now hearing about them. Prices seem reasonable...

[BCCL]

I've got a green bone jumbo stockman from them that is fine.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m103/Bear_Claw_Chris_Lappe/Knife%20Collection/Cattle%20King%20Stockman%20Patterns/HR-383C-KLB-Greenbone-Stoc.jpg

Carbon steel and fit is and finish are great.

[DRYHUMOR]

Good stuff. They have been around for a long time. The older ones bring good prices. Most always real bone or stag is used for the handles.

The one thing I haven't kept up with is whether they have outsourced any of their production or not.

[Piraticalbob]

The company has changed hands several times. At one time they were owned by A. G. Russell, and he has said that the knives of that period were among the best factory-produced knives in the world. He has also stated that the quality dropped off after he was forced to sell the company. Never having owned one from either period, I can't vouch for any of them.

[Carl Levitian]

Back when the Bertram cousins were running it, they made some of the best fit and finished pocket knives in the world. The name was sold like a lot of companies when the last Bertram passed away, and I don't even know if they are still made in Germany or China.

The new ones I've seen in recent years are nowhere near the knives of the old ones.

[SeekHer]

The ones on AG Russell's site start at the $125 point and go to almost $400 and one for $1,800...

These are pre 1980 Bertram Bros ones, I guess...

There are some nice blades made by Boker, Canal Street etc. that have been getting better reviews...

[Deltaboy]

H&R have been great knives over the years buy one and check it out.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I'vd got a bone handled Hen and Rooster with a 7 inch fixed blade. Haven't ever used it much but I'vd had it for God only know's how many years. It has good balance in the hand and is supposed to be a real good tool with some excellent steel worked into it...Sorry, that's all I know....

[Ron James]

Gentlemen, yes, the old H&R knives bring a pretty penny, the new made ones are very reasonable for one very important reason, the knifes are no longer made in Germany. but the Peoples Republic of China. The same person who owns Frost cutlery now owns Hen and Rooster, does that tell you anything?

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Tell's me all I need to know. Tell's me I wouldn't give 15 cents for a dozen of them....

[hso]

Take a look at Queen Cutlery - http://www.queencutlery.com/

[Gary O]

Of all these mentioned companys, which knives are made in America?

[hso]

Gary O,

Queen and Canal Street are made in the US.

[ArfinGreebly]

Also American made are MooreMaker, out of Texas.

www.mooremaker.com/ -- actually, that site is messed up.

Try this one instead: http://catalog.mooremaker.com

They do a line of good quality working knives.

Carbon steel, good fit & finish.

[Ron James]

Case, Buck, Bear and Sons, Most of Spyderco's are still U.S. made.

[hso]

Buck and Spyderco don't make this style of knife (and most Spydercos are made in Japan).

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Thanks for the link to Queen's Cutlery. Never owned one but have heard good things about their steel....

[ArfinGreebly]

We are talking about traditional slipjoint folders, yes?

Buck makes, e.g., a Stockman (301), Whittler (310), Cadet (303), Companion (309), Pocket Hunter (55), and others.

All in their (current standard) 420HC stainless, all made in Idaho.

(For the time being, their 37x and 38x series, mostly import copies of those, but also including a Trapper (380, 382, 384), Toothpick (385), and Canoe (389), are also available.)

Am I talking about the same thing you guys are?

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Hi to all. I might have something that will help some of you make up your minds. I hope so. It dosen't effect me because I'm too old and set in my ways.
I have done some hard and authenic researching today and here is what I'vd found.
Many of the 'American' knives that are made in China should be perfectly good knives. Schrade Super Sharp for instance will shape and temper the steel in their fixed knife blades. All China does is the assembly work and final fitting and polishing. Sometimes they may sharpen them a bit more. I understand that as part of the deal (at least with Schrade Super Sharp) that they get to stamp the single word 'China' on one side of the blade. But the actual shaping of the blade and tempering of the steel and so forth is done by Schrade right here in the good ol' US of A. I couldn't find out how many knife companies do the same. Perhaps Hen and Rooster does it that way also. Maybe Puma to. Hell, who knows as mixed up as everything is nowadays. I'vd never had a Puma but I remember when they came out. The only ones I saw were folders and I prefer fixed myself. The people I knew who bought them swore by them. My Hen and Rooster was made in Germany. It's the only knife I own that wasn't made in the USA, and I was prowling through them today and I'vd got a lot of knives. I need my ass kicked. No way in hell do I need that many knives; not in ten lifetimes. They're all real good steel and with proper care and usage I'd be hard put to wear out just one of them in a lifetime. But I'm going to keep them.
Well anyway, if ya'll happen to be in touch with this 'Gary O' member ya'll might could pass on what I said here.
Anyway, maybe this post will help somebody out a little....

[Gary O]

Thanks to you folks for you counsel. Wish I could make up my mind: I am trying to decide if I really need:
A S&W Model 41 pistol,
An slr digital camera,
on and on.......


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