Holsters for 3 gun?


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Dr.Rob
September 7, 2009, 05:37 AM
What type of holsters do you guys use for 3 gun?

Are they your standard concealed rigs, competition rigs, belt holsters or what?

For some reason I feel like my Galco G-slide might not be the RIGHT piece of gear and was thinking of getting a plastic paddle type that has a little more positive retention. Honestly it even occured to me that a US GI 1911 leather holster (yeah it's retro and NOT fast draw but it WORKS) might be the best thing with all the running jumping bumping into stuff that I've seen in Justin's videos.

After all it fits my BHP clone, and honestly when I carry a long gun and a handgun I prefer a flap-type holster as it keeps my pistol away from my rifle sling, plus I could use an ALICE belt/suspender set up for rifle magazines etc. Does anyone DO this?

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c-rum
September 7, 2009, 11:09 AM
I use a Blade-tech drop offset for my STI. It it secure and works just fine.

Justin
September 7, 2009, 03:19 PM
I use a Blade-Tech outside the waist band holster. The one for my CZ is one of the old kind with the belt loops in the Kydex. If you can, get one with the Tek-Lok. Cheesy as it sounds, being able to quickly put on or take off the holster is a huge help.

As for retention, I just crank down on the retention screws fairly tightly. When you're at home, to test, ensure that the gun is empty (mag out, check the chamber two or three times.) Then put the pistol in the holster, hold it upside down and shake it back and forth a couple of times. If the pistol stays in the holster, that should be good enough. I put locktite on my holster screws, which will ensure they won't go anywhere.

If you feel like it, consider ordering a set of the holster knobs (http://3gunstuff.com/knobs.htm) that Chris sells over at 3GunStuff.com. He's a good guy, and they're a good product, allowing you to adjust the tension on the holster without the need of a screwdriver. (This is my one and only pet peeve about the Blade-Tech holsters.) Chris usually shoots the matches with us, so I can put in a word for him to bring a set out if you're interested.

Justin
September 7, 2009, 03:22 PM
Jeff-

Thanks for your work on welding up those Benelli lifters. They look fantastic and work much, much better than the thumb-mangling factory configuration. After I got them back, my friend and I went out and tested our Benellis with them, going through well over 100 rounds each of birdshot, buckshot, and slugs and they ran great.

Dr.Rob
September 7, 2009, 06:58 PM
Anyone use FOBUS holsters? They are a lot cheaper than Blade-tech and have the same adjustable rake and retention screw.

c-rum
September 7, 2009, 08:24 PM
Justin,

Glad to hear the carriers are well for you sure beats a missed-up thumb:D:D

Dr. Rob,

I am sure some people are using Fobus holsters for 3-gun.
The biggest difference to me is that the Fobus retains the gun a little to well.

Bladetech does cost more but you only have to cry once.

In all honesty any holster will work as long as it holds the gun secure and you are happy with it.

Good luck

Jeff

Hoser
September 7, 2009, 10:39 PM
Anyone use FOBUS holsters? They are a lot cheaper than Blade-tech and have the same adjustable rake and retention screw.

No. Bad.

Hk Dan
September 7, 2009, 11:21 PM
Well, if you buy the "Roto" version, that's true. The bad news is that the don't change the retention, so if you're off 5 degrees from "ideal", the gun don't draw. Bladetech is the bomb.

creekerdoug
September 9, 2009, 05:41 PM
I use the same Blade Tech holster for IDPA, USPSA and multigun. I'm old and set in my ways. Change is bad............

olyeller
September 11, 2009, 01:39 AM
FOBUS is israeli for junk.
I kinda like Kytac for my holster needs.

David E
September 12, 2009, 08:47 PM
Nothing against Fobus, but you don't see any of the good shooters using them.

If someone says, "I use Fobus and never had a problem," what they're really saying is, "I suck so bad, I don't know how bad I suck!"

sargenv
September 23, 2009, 12:40 PM
lol David E.. actually I shoot with a Fobus with my Para P16 and have never had an issue with it.. My general classification for everything is B.. The holster works ok, I had to modify it to accept the extended mag release on the Para. If I were to get serious I'd likely get a blade tech DOH, but for now I use what I use since I'm not all that serious and it meets my needs.. I can easily replace it on and off my belt when swapping for 1, 2, or all 3 guns on a stage.

Though the next time I shoot 3-gun I'm thinking of going old fashioned.. 20 gauge pump 870, S&W model 610 Revo, and um.. Marlin 336 in 30-30. :)

I bet I STILL beat a few AR shooters lol.

IndianaBoy
September 23, 2009, 02:03 PM
Nothing against Fobus, but you don't see any of the good shooters using them.

If someone says, "I use Fobus and never had a problem," what they're really saying is, "I suck so bad, I don't know how bad I suck!"


:rolleyes:


I use a Fobus holster. It was cheap, I was a college student when I bought it, it still works fine. I'm no Daniel Horner, but I'm also not an equipment snob. Aside from securing your pistol, a holster is pretty much irrelevant to 3-gun shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3uGnCzu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji0p8zqZZM4

Notice how exceptionally little time is spent drawing a pistol.

David E
September 24, 2009, 01:25 AM
When you use crap equipment and you don't notice it, it doesn't mean the equipment isn't crap. It means your skill level has not risen to the point of recognizing the shortcomings of said equipment and how much you're fighting it.

When you DO finally realize your gear/holster is, in fact, crap you'll ask yourself: "How much better would I be NOW if I'd bought decent gear THEN..."

Answer: better than you are now.

A holster for IPSC/IDPA/3-gun is never irrelevant. Having lost matches and guns by 2/10th's of a second or less, every little bit matters.

Since when was having a faster, more consistent draw a bad thing?

IndianaBoy
September 24, 2009, 03:28 AM
Whatever floats your boat. I will be buying a rifle comp before holsters even enter my brain. Non-issue.

Time to go work to get my skill level to exceed crap equipment. *roll eyes*

Hoser
September 24, 2009, 09:34 AM
IndiniaBoy, you have a couple GMs and many others with lots of experience giving you advice. Dont completely blow it off.

IndianaBoy
September 24, 2009, 02:43 PM
I'm not ignoring it. Far from it, and I always appreciate advice from superior shooters. Especially when it doesn't come with a dose of condescension.

rino451
September 24, 2009, 04:10 PM
comp-tac, fobus. I've used even used a serpa, omg!! I like slides, but you might have to do some front sight work to prevent hang-ups. Also, if you're just getting started, run what you have. There'll be plenty of time to make up elsewhere besides the draw for a while. Don't let the gear snobs distract you. You might change guns before you really have to worry about your holster's affect on your draw, timewise.

homeyclaus
October 5, 2009, 12:39 AM
I found that the Fobus I bought for one of my pistols has the worst retention of a plastic holster. While I am sure it would do fine for IDPA, in 3 gun I have seen some stages where I would doubt that holster's ability to retain the pistol.

Since you asked which holster, the answer is "it depends." At the local matches I'll run a Safariland 6004. Sometimes, I'll run a Uncle Mike's paddle holster on a pistol belt. People diss that, but it survived a Magpul course, it's way cheaper than a Blade-Tech, and retains well. I am gravitating toward that setup more and more - when you're done your stage, you can unclip the belt if you want.

For mags, it's the Tactical Tailor stuff, with the clips in it. Works great.

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