Looking for AR hog hunting light


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BUGUDY
September 8, 2009, 09:13 AM
I need a light for my Ar to hunt hogs this winter. Probably need one that has at least 100yd beam I would guess. I have only used hand held spotlights and these are too bulky for one person to use and shoot.

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camoman33935
September 8, 2009, 09:26 AM
I've never heard of a compact light that'll make a 100yd beam...

As a side note, is it legal to use a gun and light where you are? Down here we have to get a special permit and can only use it on the land where the gun-light permit is for...

BUGUDY
September 8, 2009, 09:32 AM
Cabelas has some from Primos that mount on the scope, they are not compact, but they mount on the scope.that is all that I have found so far.

As far as the legal issues. I will check with Texas DNR when I get more info as to where exactly we will be hunting. Also I hope to get more info on the terrain we will be hunting. I may not be able to shoot 100 yds. Just doing my rersearch now.

camoman33935
September 8, 2009, 09:54 AM
Oh yeah I know the ones your talkin bout...dont have any experience with them though...

Flintknapper
September 8, 2009, 10:41 AM
If you will be hunting in Texas for Feral Hogs....there are no legal issues about using an artificial light.

When we are going to be hog hunting at night (anywhere deer are known to range)....we simply give the TPWD a "courtesy call" and let them know where we are and what we are doing. NEVER had a problem.


If you need a compact light to fit your AR this one will throw a beam 100 yds. with no effort at all:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/premium-olight-m20-warrior.html

Get the optional "smooth reflector" to go with it. Mine will cast a beam that I can see hogs with for 200+ yards.


Flint.

Country_boy_88
September 8, 2009, 10:44 AM
^^ knows his stuff ;)

3pairs12
September 8, 2009, 11:40 AM
When we are going to be hog hunting at night (anywhere deer are known to range)....we simply give the TPWD a "courtesy call" and let them know where we are and what we are doing. NEVER had a problem.


Same here.

camoman33935
September 8, 2009, 12:37 PM
wish it was that way down here...

BUGUDY
September 8, 2009, 03:38 PM
Oh yea, I forgot to say I will be going to Texas.
Flintknapper, that light looks good, always nice to advice from experience. And from reading your thread, you have that and some.

Double Naught Spy
September 8, 2009, 08:48 PM
If you need a compact light to fit your AR this one will throw a beam 100 yds. with no effort at all:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/premi...0-warrior.html

Get the optional "smooth reflector" to go with it. Mine will cast a beam that I can see hogs with for 200+ yards.

I use one of these lights and got it specifically for hog hunting. Yeah, it will throw a light a long way. The problem is getting the light reflected back. If you are trying to hunt pink hogs on a nice open golf course, this light is great at 100 yards. If you are shooting grey or black hogs in a vegetated environment, higher grass, etc., the light is not going to be sufficient without a good magnifying optic. It might work by itself, but with the limited light being transmitted back and passing by/through the sites of an AR15, I would not count on it being bright enough at 100 yards.

Mine is mounted on a Marlin 1895, .45-70. It is a good light. I would definitely like something brighter for being a weapon mounted hog light.

Flintknapper
September 8, 2009, 10:15 PM
Clearly, there are conditions that will challenge this light and others like it. However….I find it more than adequate for the majority of hunting situations.

I may have made an “assumption” that Bugudy’s AR is a scoped weapon (since he mentioned lights that attach to a scope). If it is….he should be fine with this light, if it is not (but iron sighted), then I submit it is irresponsible to take (most) shots beyond 50 yds at hogs at night.

It has been my experience…that anything much brighter than the “Olight” (on high power) will get a bad reaction from hogs.

The advantages of this light (and others like it) are:

They are lightweight.
They are small (not unwieldy).
They are sufficiently bright for most situations encountered.
They mount to the weapon…leaving your hands free (one person can hunt with it).
They double as a tactical light (either on or off the weapon) when you are not hunting with it.
Spare batteries are easily carried to extend run time.
Several “levels” of power (lumens) are available to the hunter using the same unit.
A flip-up red lens can be used if the hunter desires.
Most offer the option of remote activation (momentary tape switch).


Now, is this light “perfect” for every situation that could be encountered while hunting hogs? Absolutely not!

But…. it is a pretty darned useful tool under most conditions….and affords the hunter certain “options” that purpose built lights do not. Hence…my recommendation.

“Assuming” the gentleman has an AR with optics….I would say only this:

The better your optics…the better you will be able to make out your target. My AR wears a simple Weaver Classic Extreme (1.5 X 4.5 X 24mm lighted reticle). Most of our hogs are black and I have yet to need/want more light than the Olight provides to make good shots at 100 yds. or closer.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/RS_1.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n92/flintknapper/HPV_2.jpg





If more demanding situations are anticipated…then I suggest the hunter(s) also carry a handheld light (of whatever design/power level they feel necessary). If you choose to do this…try to stay as close “behind” the light as possible to keep the angle of incidence shallow. You have a much better chance of receiving reflected light that way.

There is much that can be discussed and debated about the use of lights for hunting hogs. Suffice it to say: NO light will be perfect for all situations. Carefully consider your personal needs and choose accordingly. This is not an argument on my part for the Olight (or any like it), just a “suggestion” based on my experiences…then thrown out here for others to digest.

Flint.

BUGUDY
September 9, 2009, 08:54 AM
I'll be using a 6.8spc with a Burris Fullfield 4.5-14x42 scope. Like I said before I don't have any idea yet what type of terrain I will be hunting in, so shooting distances are unknown to me now. I wanted to get some research done ahead of time, so that when I get more info, I will have an idea what to equip myself with.

597newbie
December 27, 2010, 04:26 PM
I bought this light from flintknapper's recommendation and have been testing at nite extensively and value vs dollar I am so happy I dont know what to do.

details:

Decided to go with variant of Flintknapper's choice based upon:
- his use (if you have hog hammer engraved on your lower I trust your judgement).
- I can get updated Olight M20S
- accessories are available (true red lense glass, smooth reflector, remote switch) all from same company
- should be able to get before thanksgiving (very important is a good project for me to work on and test)
- reviews from web and amazon (see below)

http://www.amazon.com/Olight-M20S-Warrior-Premium-R5/product-reviews/B003JPS4L0/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1


total price for this US $130.75 (from ebay)

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JDMorris
December 27, 2010, 04:38 PM
My surefire G2 Nitrolon lights up a good way when I'm taking my dog out, and it only has 65 lumens, the new G2X has 200, and is only about 50 bucks.
also, my G2 will fit in a 1" scope ring alright, it would most definitely work better in a 30mm.

rocky1
December 27, 2010, 04:48 PM
Cabelas - Primos Selection (http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=708155&type=product&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=AdWordsProductListings&WT.z_mc_id1=708155&RID=40&mr:trackingCode=413A328F-74A6-DF11-907B-002219318F67&mr:referralID=NA&rid=10)

swinokur
December 27, 2010, 05:50 PM
www.elzetta.com

rangerphil
December 27, 2010, 06:15 PM
Go the texasboars.com and look at some of their lights for hog hunting. The quality is top notch. Although I don't use a weapon mounted light, I use a bank of 3 high power red LED lights from Texas Boars in our elevated stand at night.

FLAvalanche
December 28, 2010, 12:52 PM
wish it was that way down here...

It's not that far off. If you have private land you hunt hogs on all you have to do is apply for a night hunting permit through the FWC. They pretty much sign off on them in this area.

OYE
January 7, 2011, 01:16 AM
The o'light certainly looks like the brightest one. Another option might be the Princeton Tec Apex headlamp ( the new 200 lumen model ). Throws a 100 yd beam.
I can easily shoot a cat at 80 yds. Hog at 100 ? Uses 4 AA batteries included. I use the
low self discharge Eneloop rechargeable AA batteries. Best price I've seen is from the
" Bright Guy ". ( There are several of the older model 130 lumen Apex headlamps still
being sold retail ). That said, the O'light looks like the best AR mounted light I've seen.

swinokur
January 7, 2011, 05:46 AM
www.elzetta.com

jmorris
January 9, 2011, 02:52 AM
Two people, one with rifle, other with light is ideal. Only enough light is cast (aim at sky and bring down just enough). If you have a gun mounted flame thrower, red or not, up close they will run.

Where we bait I have lights that come on every night and solar charge during the day, the hogs come to the spots like the light is a dinner bell.

BrainOnSigs
January 9, 2011, 08:01 AM
For night shoots I switched from this:
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL875/3165911/7400197/342143101.jpg

........to an ELCAN DigiHunter (made by my company):
http://brainonsigs.smugmug.com/Other/Misc/Predators-350px/1147932099_NdQEL-M.jpg


It's an ELCAN with night vision...for under $1K (for me)...it freaking rocks! It is as good as a nice vid camera zoomed out to far distances (like 16.5x)


You can program your exact load (multiple loads...allows you to move it from rifle to rifle) into it and it adjusts automatically. You change the reticles by downloading ones that suits your purpose or even design your own and load it.

It's not really glass.....when the scope is turned off – there is nothing to look through. You literally look at an LCD screen when you are looking through the scope. This is strange at first.

The shooter has to sacrifice a small bit of clarity and sharpness of the target for the benefit of taking a photo or video of the target. I think the sacrifice is justified by the end result, but if you really like high-end optics with excellent clarity and sharpness, you have to remind yourself why you bought the scope when you are in the field. You use the scope to “zoom” in on an animal and carefully look at it. This is not as feasible with this scope beyond 200 yards. At the same time, most folks don’t have any photos or videos of all of those animals they have zoomed in to look at that they can show their friends. With the DigitalHunter Riflescope, a person can now show his friends what he saw in the field.

There is a very neat feature that allows the scope to automatically take a photo or video based on the recoil of the shot. Meaning, when you pull the trigger the scope can be set to record the previous 1-5 seconds from before you pulled the trigger, and then will record for a period of 10 seconds.

This scope is for someone comfortable with techno-gadgets. LCD view screen, digital camera/recorder, USB cable, notebook computer, going to their website to “join” and then download the software that you use to create your ballistic table and select your favorite reticles, copying the ballistic table to a SD memory card, and finally, navigating the various screens and options on the scope require someone who is confident of their ability to “figure out” technology.

DigitalHunter vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRWsd2czdU)

Day/Night version...night mode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrY_o4y7Q&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cbj15kgz6Y&NR=1

hardluk1
January 10, 2011, 09:59 AM
Go to one of many conn hunting sites and pick a head light that will fit your needs. Ain't no rifle monted light going to compair. I used a bright eyes led that can light a coon in a tree from about 50 yards on a no moon night and you can shoot with them.And that was the small light. A couple guys also mounted them under there barrels with a home mount. Small light with a cord to a belt mount battery thats rechargeable. You can buy these in a 2 1/2" up to 4" lens.

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