Chicago Gun laws?
twoblink
October 30, 2003, 02:44 AM
Got a friend from Singapore, going to Chicago for a month..
Asked me about how the gun laws are in Chicago :uhoh: should I just tell her no difference from Singapore?
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Jeff White
October 30, 2003, 02:58 AM
You'd be pretty close. Does she want to shoot? If so and she doesn't mind the drive South I can probably get her some range time.
Jeff
El Tejon
October 30, 2003, 09:44 AM
two, former Chicago inmate here, no difference.
HankB
October 30, 2003, 11:19 AM
In Chicago (aka Daleyville on the Lake) you can buy and own long guns, but you're supposed to register them.
Handguns may be owned, but they have to be registered. And Chicago stopped registering handguns decades ago, a deliberate Catch-22.
FWIW, when I lived there, Chicago's registration laws were probably ignored more than speed limits on the expressways. The state requires a "Firearms Owner's ID" card, with which you can buy a gun anywhere in the state, without violating state law. Suburban gunshops are common outside Chicago city limits. Need I say more?
Of course, you can always become an alderman. Then you'll be issued a permit to carry a concealed weapon in the city, since you won't be a mere member of the lowly proletariat any more.
twoblink
October 30, 2003, 08:46 PM
Well, Jeff White refers to it as "the cancer" when I went to visit him.. So yeah.. I figured.
Who's got worse laws? Chicago, or PRNJ?
My friend who lives in Chicago says the laws are almost all Catch-22's...
Don Gwinn
October 31, 2003, 12:10 AM
The entire state of New Jersey? That depends. New Jersey has some truly senseless stuff, like a ban on hollow points, but Chicago, hands down.
Chicago has, among other things:
* A ban on handguns (all legal mumbo-jumbo aside, it's a damn ban.)
* A ban on assault weapons throughout the county
* Mayor Daley, the man who had an airport bulldozed under cover of darkness commando-style (stranding about twenty airplanes in the process) because there was no other way to close the thing and sell the land to a casino developer.
* CAGE, a dedicated team of anti-gun goons. Think I exaggerate? CAGE stands for "Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement" team. It's a division of the Chicago cops most famous for raiding the homes of elderly people whose FOID cards have technically expired. Another pet project was an attempt to get the records of every multiple handgun purchase in the nation added to a registry to be maintained by CAGE.
* Mayor Daley. I know I mentioned him before; he's that bad. He tried to pass eleven items of anti-gun legislation last spring (all of which he'll bring out again in a few days when the Legislature meets again.) One of those items would actually have made soldiers and police subject to arrest and trial for using "assault weapons" while on duty. Generously enough, it would have allowed them to raise their duty status as an "affirmative defense"--at their felony trial.
HankB
October 31, 2003, 09:14 AM
Dickie Daley is just following in R.J. Daley's (his father) anti-gun footsteps. I remember when there were race riots in Blue Island (a Chicago suburb) R.J. ordered Chicago police down there to assist - but they were to only take their billy clubs, and leave their sidearms at home. The cops said, if we're disarmed, we're not cops, in which case you, R.J., have no authority to issue orders. R.J. said "You'll be fired." Cops said "See you in court!" Lots of threats on both sides, but ultimately, no Chicago cops went.
IIRC R.J. also rewrote the Chicago gun registration law to exclude felons, after the SCOTUS Haynes vs. US decision of 1968.Mayor Daley . . . tried to pass eleven items of anti-gun legislation last spring One of those items would actually have made soldiers and police subject to arrest and trial for using "assault weapons" while on duty. Cry me a river. If certain guns are evil in the hands of civilians, they're no less evil in the hands of government employees.
Silver Bullet
October 31, 2003, 12:16 PM
If certain guns are evil in the hands of civilians, they're no less evil in the hands of government employees.
Good one!
makarov1
October 31, 2003, 09:24 PM
Chicago-----yet another success story. As close to a liberal utopia as one can get. Left wing Gubmint = stupidity illustrated.
twoblink
November 1, 2003, 02:00 AM
My ex-coworker coined the phrase "Neutered Chicago".. He's from Chicago, and can't get a gun. He tried to explain all the different laws that prevented him from getting one, and it made my head spin, and I'm from the PRK!!
El Tejon
November 1, 2003, 08:07 AM
two, yes, but the border of The Shire is very close.:D
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