Blank firing booby trap?


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PandaBearBG
September 8, 2009, 05:52 PM
Lately I've been seeing random kids parked on my street (a dead end) so it's obvious they are either doing drugs (caught 2 different cars, while walking my dog at nite, I OC during nite walks so they never came back) but occaisonally see others. Now I am worried some may be casing my house as there have been a number of daytime robberies in other parts of town. I rent and cannot put an alarm system in my home and don't want to invest since I may move in a year.

I saw this blank firing "booby trap" from Warthog Outfitters
http://www.warhogoutfitters.com/TWA12.jpg
and it "fires 12 gauge primer" and another that fires 38 special blanks. Was thinking about tossing a couple on my back fence gate and since they are blanks and primers that should be ok and legal correct?

But I was also thinking, if I had a 12 gauge trap that had Less Than Lethal rounds, like those pepper spray rounds or flash bang, to scare and deter an intruder. And if I did, it would most certainly be mounted much farther out, say the higher by the roof, a good 8 feet.

Am I being to paranoid or is it too much? Would modifiying the primer trap to take a shell be classified as a "destructive device?" is it even legal?

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Birdmang
September 8, 2009, 05:54 PM
Paranoid and bad idea, sorry.

CWL
September 8, 2009, 05:57 PM
No it isn't legal.

Plenty of case law making the owner liable for all injuries caused by exactly what you propose. What if a utility serviceman or firefighter is answering a call to your residence and sets off a boobytrap? What if someone suffers a heart attack because they thought you were shooing at them?

PandaBearBG
September 8, 2009, 05:58 PM
So the primer firing trap is illegal?

Mike J
September 8, 2009, 05:59 PM
I am not a lawyer but I think you could be opening yourself up to legal problems. It seems I remember a guy who kept having his car battery stolen. He electrified the car hood. The next time they tried to steal it he was sued by the thief & I think he lost if I recall correctly. Booby traps are a bad idea.
edited for spelling

CoRoMo
September 8, 2009, 06:03 PM
Just spend the money on some good locking mechanisms for your gate/house.

HANDLOADER
September 8, 2009, 06:06 PM
I like that also if you don't mind me asking just where can a person buy one and what is the price range.

Far as if its legal I don't see why not it does not appear to hurt anyone by just makeing a loud pop.

CoRoMo
September 8, 2009, 06:08 PM
HANDLOADER...

http://www.warhogoutfitters.com/blankfiringtripalarms.htm

Maybe this should have been posted in S&T, as another security device thread was closed for not being gun related.


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PandaBearBG
September 8, 2009, 06:13 PM
I randomly ran across them somewhere along time ago and thought about them as a answer to my current worries, I just googled them, there's the site and he has them for $20 a pop. After your guy's input seems better suited as a camping/hunting animal deterent?

http://www.warhogoutfitters.com/blankfiringtripalarms.htm

CoRoMo - I got a big ole hardened steel lock on a steel gate with a cinderblock wall/fence. It's just that I can jump/climb it, had to once when I forgot my key. I just thought a warning device inside the fence if someone tried to jump it would work. It just that a month ago some thugs were inside this lady's house when her and her daughter got home and they tied them up and left them in their garage for several hours when they robbed the place. It was all over the news and I am just paranoid.

9mm+
September 8, 2009, 06:14 PM
Bad idea. I don't know where you live (it's not posted on your profile) and I am not a lawyer, but inciting a reaction by inferring possession or discharge of lethal devices is likely a crime. You could be held liable if something happened to bystanders, innocent or not.

Drail
September 8, 2009, 06:42 PM
How about some of the small arms fire simulators used in the film Ronin? If you just make a noise like gunfire would that be illegal? Rig them with a trip wire and a battery.

PandaBearBG
September 8, 2009, 06:58 PM
CoRoMo - thought it would be ok here b/c part of the question was about using the Less Than Lethal rounds opposed to just the primers or 38 blanks. But Appreciate all the advice, probably gonna have to find another alternative.

bigfatdave
September 8, 2009, 07:03 PM
How about a Pepper Spray Trap (http://www.defensedevices.com/terminator.html)?

chris in va
September 8, 2009, 07:55 PM
All these responses, and nobody mentions a video camera system?

Justin
September 8, 2009, 08:07 PM
You have got to be kidding me. This has nothing to do with discussing firearms. More importantly, these actions have likely negative legal repurcussions.

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