[Das Jaeger]

Does anyone know what guns were produced using this action , the Allen Box Lock ?
I can't find any examples of any guns on the Net .

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/5150kelly/AllenBoxLockActionw262.jpg

Thanks , might be a nice build project , but sure would like a history course first on this action and or guns it was on ?

Jaeger

[bonza]

Doesn't appear to be exactly the same, but here's a similar looking action off a rifle I bought a couple of years or so ago. The action is brass, & is unmarked apart from a 'signature' on the inside surface of the side panel that says Erv Hoffman. Don't know if it was the builder or owner. I believe it originated in Ohio or Indiana. If anyone recognizes the action or the name I'd be interested in hearing about it.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/arquebus1523/RightHandwithTriggerGuardOn.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/arquebus1523/InternalsExposed.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/arquebus1523/MySchuetzenRifleFL.jpg

[RSVP2RIP]

The Mowery rifle used one similar. It was more rounded though, and used a large curved spring rather than a coiled one. I'm still looking for one as they are a great, very reliable and simple design. If you got one in .54, I'm listening.

[arcticap]

That Allen action is often said to be similar to the one built
by Edwin Wesson for the Wesson target rifle, but it may be more
accurately attributed to the action originally built for the Foster-Bristol
Rifle by George P. Foster in Bristol, Rhode Island & Taunton, MA.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105226&stc=1&d=1252781928

More pictures of an original Foster Rifle:

http://www.prices4antiques.com/firearms-edged-weapons/long-guns/Long-Gun-Rifle-Foster-GP-Percussion-Inlaid-Stock-Patchbox-B178736.htm

Dixie [used to] sell a very similar replica made by Palmetto
which received good reviews. It's reported that the Italian
maker P. Bondini also made a .45 Wesson replica in 1979.


http://www.dixiegunworks.com/images/PR0300.jpg

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=2015

Navy Arms sold this Morse Rifle which was also referred to as a Wesson rifle:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105229&stc=1&d=1252782772

Here's an example of a custom 8 bore (.835) "Wesson Rifle" built on
another Pete Allen box lock action, but this action is heavier than
was used to build the Italian .45 replicas.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105227&stc=1&d=1252781078

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105228&stc=1&d=1252781280

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/234034/post/716325/hl/wesson/fromsearch/1/#716325

An original Wesson Rifle:

http://www.cowanauctions.com/images/tee2700.jpg

http://www.cowanauctions.com/images/ff4202.jpg

http://www.cowanauctions.com/past_sales_view_item.asp?itemid=58798





About Edwin Wesson:

According to Ned Roberts in his book "The Muzzleloading Cap
Lock Rifle" the Wesson family was very active in the firearms field.
One was D.B.Wesson, founder of the Smith & Wesson revolver company.
Another was Frank Wesson, best known as a designer of breechloading
rifles and handguns. The Wesson best known to muzzleloading
enthusiasts was Edwin Wesson, maker of high quality muzzleloading
rifles, pistols and buggy rifles. Ned Roberts spoke highly of Edwin
Wesson rifles and John R. Chapman in "The Improved American
Rifle" pronounced Edwin Wesson's rifles as the very best shooting
rifles of 1840-1850.


http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/229650/post/674269/hl/wesson/fromsearch/1/#674269

[Das Jaeger]

Once again your a wealth of information , and I do appreciate the time it took to look all that up and post it .
It certainly looks like one of the more serious lock designs for target shooting and for Gentlemens Rifles is what I call them I guess . I sure do like the lines of it ( the lock ) and the rifles , especialy the Wessons style .

Thanks again , Sincerely appreciate that , Das Jaeger

[Ratdog68]

Holy Cow !!! That Wesson Rifle is a piece to behold !! Very nice ! Thanks for finding/posting on that one Arcticap !!! Fine lookin' rifle !!

[messerist]

Someone mentioned a Mowery!! Now I hafta go find a quiet corner to cry in again. I sure miss mine....damn tuition bills!

[Das Jaeger]

and don;t come out for awhile either :D
I did the same thing but traded a Hopkins and Allen , for dare I say it , a MArlin LEver gun :eek:
Finding corner, running away to hide .

Jaeger

[Ratdog68]

and don;t come out for awhile either :D
I did the same thing but traded a Hopkins and Allen , for dare I say it , a MArlin LEver gun :eek:
Finding corner, running away to hide .

Jaeger
Sheesh... at least I didn't trade a perfectly good BP for my lever action... I paid cash for mine. :D

[Cosmoline]

It seems well suited for massive calibers. Over on the traditional ML forum in the builders subforum, a fellow has posted about building a custom TWO bore (!!) with the boxlock.

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/237350/

[Gaucho Gringo]

If anyone wants to see what a Mowrey rifle looks like here is one for sale
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/pp-classifieds/showproduct.php/product/3900/cat/9