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mcdonl
September 12, 2009, 08:33 PM
I think that short of a gun show, I saw the largest display of weapons I have ever seen.

My daughter and I were on our ATV's at a local pit/trail system that is also used by the Army reserves... when we rounded the top of a hill we saw around 10 trucks with what I believe to be M60's mounted on the back of them... 100's of soldiers marching in various directions all carrying M16's and 2helicopter gun ships... not sure of what type of chopper they were....

We were greated with a STOP indicated by a raised hand... then a friendly wave when we stopped and got off our machines to watch for a bit...

We of course left the area, but it was awesome. They must have just arrived because for the remained of the day there was plenty of automatic weapons fire and what seemed to be approach/take off drills with the birds.

Amazing.

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DR505
September 12, 2009, 08:41 PM
That must have been fun! I just love watching displays like that. Airshows though are my favorite.

BTW - The M-60 has mostly been replaced by the M-240. ;)

DMK
September 12, 2009, 09:50 PM
Where I live we get Apaches, Cobras, Blackhawks and even the occasional Chinook practicing low level mountain flying. It's pretty cool, especially the Cobras, I always liked those birds. A few months ago I was driving a long and a C-130 did a low level pass right along with the road. I don't think he was much more than 100 feet off the ground. Then a little while ago, we had an F-15E doing bombing runs on some buildings for about an hour. That was really cool. It was like a free airshow.

The sad thing is folks actually complain about this stuff. I guess the noise bothers them or something. I love it. The power of these machines is amazing. Especially when you get a good look at the guns on some of those gunships. Makes me glad I'm not one of the ones hiding out from these things in the mountains of Afghanistan.

mcdonl
September 12, 2009, 10:50 PM
Makes me glad I'm not one of the ones hiding out from these things in the mountains of Afghanistan.

My daughter and I thought the same thing when we saw the troops walking down a trail... she pointed to my hip (Where my KT P3AT always is....) and said "that wouldnt do much...." when we were discussing how scary that would be if they were NOT on our side.

Dr 505... thanks for the info... I know little about military arms, other then the fact one of the more popular air craft mounted guns are made about 30 minutes from my house...

Rebel Yarr
September 12, 2009, 11:08 PM
Let's hope they stay on our side....Oathkeepers and all that....

chuckusaret
September 13, 2009, 12:52 AM
Let's hope they stay on our side....Oathkeepers and all that....

I don't think we have a problem with the active military but I do believe we will have a problem with the strong civilian force.

ColinthePilot
September 13, 2009, 01:03 AM
A few months ago I was driving a long and a C-130 did a low level pass right along with the road. I don't think he was much more than 100 feet off the ground.... The sad thing is folks actually complain about this stuff. I guess the noise bothers them or something. I love it. The power of these machines is amazing.

That part of the country? Doubt it was less than 300ft, which is still pretty dang low. As for the noise, I know what -130's do to our squadron building at 500ft; don't wanna know what it would do to my house at 300... And I'm glad you enjoy watching it. We enjoy flying it. :cool:

Shadow 7D
September 13, 2009, 02:08 AM
If you post where you met them you would most likely have active, reserve and retired military telling you who uses that area / training range.

What you probably encountered was a FARP, the M-60 is still used by some CH-60 for door guns, at least we still had some 4 years ago in 82nd Aviation, but they were supposed to get replaced.

Yeah, it would suck if the army wasn't your friend. But civilians don't stand and fight because those who do are either very well trained or die.

paralaska
September 13, 2009, 02:11 AM
That part of the country? Doubt it was less than 300ft, which is still pretty dang low. As for the noise, I know what -130's do to our squadron building at 500ft; don't wanna know what it would do to my house at 300... And I'm glad you enjoy watching it. We enjoy flying it. :cool:
I'm USAF retired. Back when I was on active duty and we'd deploy somewhere for training . . . if the civilians in the area complained about the noise . . . we would tell them that "that's the sound of Freedom!" . . . .

mcdonl
September 13, 2009, 09:05 AM
Shadow, I was not sure if it would have been appropriate to announce where or not. It is an odd relationship the community has with the base... all through out the base there are abandoned buildings and foundations so it was once an heavily used area, but now it is all posted. The State Police patrols the area, but it is used by us civilians as an ATV trail system and a shooting range.

Over the past 2 years more and more people use it as a range, and they are not as respectful as some of us and would leave a lot of litter. I have sense joined a local club and do most of my shooting there, and I am glad as since the drills have been going on the army has had to clean up other peoples messes and I am happy to know it was not my mess.

It is possible that they pick up thier brass? I look for casings but never find any and they shoot thousands of rounds.

ScottG1911
September 13, 2009, 09:17 AM
It is possible that they pick up thier brass? I look for casings but never find any and they shoot thousands of rounds.

Oh yeah brass call!! every peice accounted for or the S%^t is hittin the fan lol

JWF III
September 13, 2009, 11:40 AM
Then a little while ago, we had an F-15E doing bombing runs on some buildings for about an hour. That was really cool. It was like a free airshow.



A good friend of mine has a house on Lake Oconee (central GA) within sight of the dam. They regularly fly F-18s down the lake and make fake bombing runs on the dam, usually 3 planes at a time. They're also regularly seen over our hunting lease, ~10 miles east of the lake. Last year, we were sitting out on the dove field and had one fly the length of it at about 1000 feet.

Several years ago, I was fishing on the Congaree River in SC. We had a couple of Apaches come down the river channel below tree top level (river ~200-250 feet wide). I can still remember what that thumping felt like in my chest.

Absolutely amazing watching our military in action, even if it is just a training exercise.

Wyman

cassandrasdaddy
September 13, 2009, 11:51 AM
i live not too far from quantico we have comeheres who complain about the noise

Warhawk83
September 13, 2009, 11:57 AM
I see C130's all the time, national guard has an outfit about 5 miles from me.I also went to my first airshow at Barksdale AFB last May, AMAZING,the F-15E can shake you to the core when it passes overhead. Saw the blue angels as well, my favorite was Fat Albert.

Tim the student
September 13, 2009, 12:17 PM
Go to Ft. Bragg during All-American week sometime, and watch the JFEX demo there.

It's pretty cool, as long as you don't have to participate in it.

You will see an airborne op, complete with gunships, a jump, heavy drops, and arty that used to shoot off the DZ. Then some of the guys who jumped will assault a building or something for the crowd. They usually have a static display with vehicles, weapons, snipers in their miserably hot ghillie suits and stuff like that.

DMK
September 13, 2009, 12:21 PM
Quote:
"A few months ago I was driving a long and a C-130 did a low level pass right along with the road. I don't think he was much more than 100 feet off the ground.... The sad thing is folks actually complain about this stuff. I guess the noise bothers them or something. I love it. The power of these machines is amazing."

That part of the country? Doubt it was less than 300ft, which is still pretty dang low. As for the noise, I know what -130's do to our squadron building at 500ft; don't wanna know what it would do to my house at 300... And I'm glad you enjoy watching it. We enjoy flying it. Western End of NC. It probably was 300-500 feet. Those aircraft are so large, it makes them seem lower. It was low enough though that I could see every detail and panel line quite clearly.

Stay safe up there! If you ever fly practice out this way, know that we're enjoying the show. :D


if the civilians in the area complained about the noise . . . we would tell them that "that's the sound of Freedom!" . . . You know Migs and Mils make a lot of noise too. :) Just kidding. I love seeing what my tax money pays for.

Pistol Toter
September 13, 2009, 12:25 PM
I live in Knoxville, TN. There is an Air Force Base at Alcoa. McGhee Tyson is the home of a number of KC135 and it is not uncommon to see one of them fly over; but what is really neat is you are in the area of the base is to see 3 or 4 Wart Hogs A-10's. They are flying so low and so SLOW, it seems that they sould fall our of the air. But boy them things are awsome. I have often thought that if one of them was after me all he would see would be a$$ hole because I'd be diggen me hole to crawl into.:what::)

Artiz
September 13, 2009, 01:01 PM
The Canadian Forces base named Valcartier is a few kilometers from my house behind some hills. All year long we hear bombing, when it's calm we clearly hear the gunshots and a few months ago some A10 Warthogs came training for a day or two, how do I know, the sound, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Oh yeah baby. I love it. I saw one that night flying just over the house, I recognized the distinctive large wingspan and slow speed but big sound. every plane that lands to the airport turns over my house. :D
Oh and I'm right under the CF-18's flight path. When they get out to chase something I get to know it. The heli's too.

FROGO207
September 13, 2009, 10:34 PM
mcdonl

What!! I always miss all the fun around here.:D

Erik M
September 13, 2009, 10:51 PM
I was downstairs at home messing with my wireless router and at first throught something was tearing to roof off my cabin before I recognized the sound of jet engines. When I made it outside the noise was subsiding, then I saw the underside of a f-18 break over the treeline and dissappear on the opposite side of the property less than 1k feet off the ground. Then came the supersonic boom. Then anoter jet, then another. 4 hornets, hauling tail through the mountains. That has to be a whole new level of fun.

I remember seeing a C-5 Galaxy on approach, you could see him a mile out and he just seemed to float.

statelineblues
September 13, 2009, 11:06 PM
I still remember, 30 years later, being stationed at White Sands Missle Range, NM, and while driving back from Holloman AFB seeing a B-52 on final approach. It just kept getting bigger, and bigger, and louder, and LOUDER as it crossed over the highway (Rt 70/82)...

mljdeckard
September 13, 2009, 11:17 PM
S-3 dropped the ball on the bus requisition again. :)

cassandrasdaddy
September 13, 2009, 11:43 PM
1974 i was on offut air force base when a tornadoe was coming through the area. sop was to fly the hardware outa harms way. seeing all those buff's leaving the ground 2 wide one after the other scared us good we thought someone had pushed the button

Mandolin
September 14, 2009, 09:03 AM
I used to live near Westover Air Base in MA, the bianual air was amazing. The C-5s are HUGE. For those of you who have been to the Oshkosh Air show/Fly-in, Ardy and Ed's a 50' style drive-in place, is right under the pattern for runway 9-27 you won't see to many big jets, but the little prop planes are constantly overhead. There are also WW2 reanactors, and the pyrotecric airshow at the end of the week.

SSN Vet
September 14, 2009, 09:09 AM
What pit was this at?

can't be to far from me either....

I've been in the GDAS plant in Saco as part of my work.... pretty cool to see the gatling guns used on the A-10....

mcdonl
September 14, 2009, 11:09 AM
Hey SSN... it was up in Hollis. I Live on the game preserve side of the facility. I am considering doing some shooting the end of the month for my birthday if so I will post the information.

CW-op
September 14, 2009, 08:05 PM
In 1956, my wife and I were coming up out of Rapid City, S.D. on our motorcycle, eastbound on US16. As we got up high enough to look out at ground level, I saw the runway for [I think Ellsworth AFB] off to the left, with a smoking Buff at the far end. Thinking that it would be fun to watch, I pulled over to the shoulder and stopped. We watched as the plane approached, first the wings lifted, then the wing wheels disappeared, then it broke free of the ground and soon passed us directly overhead at what I would guess to have been about 400 feet. We were in instant pain from the noise. We liked the show, but would not do it again without 5 sets of earmuffs each. Neat.

Tim the student
September 14, 2009, 08:52 PM
...with a smoking Buff...

I've heard it referenced here a couple of times, but can someone tell me what a Buff is? Slang for a B52?

Trebor
September 14, 2009, 09:07 PM
I've heard it referenced here a couple of times, but can someone tell me what a Buff is? Slang for a B52?

BIG
UGLY
FAT
FELLOW (only it's not *really* "fellow'. That's the polite substitution. I'm sure you can figure it out...)

ghoster
September 14, 2009, 11:13 PM
i worked on projects at wright patt for 2 1/2 years and saw all kinds of really cool stuff.

they bring in eastern seaboard stuff when hurricaines come so i got to see some of the most diverse stuff we got.

when the base would go to charlie 2 i would be stuck with the building security team as i was only civilian in that particular building in( area b ).dont know what they do in that building but it took a year to get me clearance and it appeared they wanted me out of the building but still acounted for when the alerts hit charlie 2.

pretty obvious when 6 guys in full dress and live wepons trot up and say let's go, got to ride around and check out stuff close up.

didnt get to get in em but i was literally 3 feet away, testerone city. we have some truely awsome birds.

3-4 hours and i guess they got their okie dokies and back we would go and they would escort me back to my job site and trot off.

highorder
September 15, 2009, 10:46 AM
They regularly fly F-18s down the lake and make fake bombing runs on the dam, usually 3 planes at a time.

That reminds me...

I was driving between Detroit and Boston on I-90 regularly a few years back...

It was a common sight to see A-10's rolling in on vehicles and executing mock strafing runs on the New York Thruway.

Most of the drivers were probably oblivious. :)

silverking
September 15, 2009, 11:33 AM
Ahhhh-------the sound of freedom

chuckusaret
September 15, 2009, 12:22 PM
Hey, all you guys are talking about what fun others had or are having in the military, you should join like many of us did. Not to beat my own drum but I had a blast for 24 years 6 months and 11 days in the Army. I am proud to have had the opportunity to have been able to serve in the airborne, signal corps, air defense missiles and aviation. On retirement I had the continued pleasure to have been employed as an International F16 Jet Fighter Program manager for several foreign countries, Egypt, Pakistan and Thailand for a very large aerospace company until retirement. Yes, the sound of the roar of a jet fighter or the beat of helicopter rotor blades does bring back many found memories. If you are young enough, don’t miss out, join now and see the world……….:rolleyes:

mcdonl
September 15, 2009, 12:55 PM
If you are young enough

Crap... We thank you and support you, but volunteer FD and coaching is all the serving this 40 something can do.

happygeek
September 15, 2009, 01:07 PM
I don't think we have a problem with the active military but I do believe we will have a problem with the strong civilian force.

I must admit, I have no idea what this "strong civilian force" is and am rather curious what you're referring to :confused:

SSN Vet
September 15, 2009, 03:29 PM
all you guys are talking about what fun others had or are having in the military, you should join like many of us did

been there.... done that.... and I've describe that eight year period of my life using many adjectives, but fun has never been one of them....

as for what branch of the armed forces this was.... I'll give you a hint by sharing the first lesson they taught me....

Never
Again
Volunteer
Yourself

:)

Madcap_Magician
September 15, 2009, 04:46 PM
God, there's nothing worse than doing a huge STX lane and then being told to walk back a kilometer and pick up all the brass.

happygeek
September 16, 2009, 01:40 AM
Yep, convoy live fire is kinda fun; that is till it's over and there's brass spread out over a mile down the road. And then they tell you to pick up the brass the previous unit left also ...

C-grunt
September 16, 2009, 05:42 AM
Ever done a brass call at NTC in California? It took two days!!

I live near Luke AFB, the training base for the F-16s. We have something like 300 fly days a year in sunny Az, so we see the F-16s all the time. The Apache plant is out on the east side of town and they are out there flying around every so often too.

Shadow 7D
September 17, 2009, 04:28 AM
Yep, somehow my platoon got the firing point for the live fire, went ok until someone bothered asked what type of fin assembly he was picking up. We went back to the staging area after that.

drewxhawaii
September 17, 2009, 06:30 AM
My local motocross park shares its property with the military and they often use it for training on the weekends.

The first few times I rode by camouflaged soldiers fully-armed in the brush, I nearly shat myself.

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