Ar 180b


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Lonnie Jaycox
October 30, 2003, 07:44 PM
I wanted to wait until the kinks got worked out of this rifle. Then TFL went away and I did not get around to posting here until now. Now that this rile has been around awhile, is there any concensus as to quality and value? I am thinking of buying this one or a AR. Thoughts?
Thanks in advance

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Kor
October 31, 2003, 04:10 AM
Ya gotta handle one, in person, in order to really make your mind up.

I ordered mine sight unseen last year, I've had it since last October, and I really like it. It's lightweight, I think it feels good in the hands and on the shoulder, and it shoots about as accurately as a run-of-the-mill, rack-grade AR15. I particularly enjoy its quick handling and its performance in snap-shooting drills. Reliability is excellent as long as good ammo and mags are used, and I REALLY appreciate the clean-shooting gas-piston system - cleanups are lots easier and lots less frequent.

Most of the AR180B-haters I've seen here and elsewhere don't like the rifle because it's mostly plastic and feels flimsy to them, or because they think it's not priced low enough for them to consider buying it instead of their favorite brand of AR15. That's why I say, handle it first in person. If the rifle disappoints you and you pay for it anyway, you'll never be satisfied with it. On the other hand, if you like the way the rifle looks and feels in the gun store, I think you'll like the rifle even better once you take it out of the store and to the range.

Obiwan
October 31, 2003, 08:23 AM
Probably not even $.02 worth

I have not shot one...only held one

Around here, the difference in price is about $100

I kind of see them as the glock of assault rifles

If you are the kind of person that is happy out-of-the box shooting then go for it.

If you are like most people and you want to tinker...add optics...hang a bunch of tactical stuff on it.....stick with an AR

Shane333
October 31, 2003, 12:39 PM
I asked Armalite at AR15.com (it's in the Industry section) about potential upgrades/options for the AR180B. Turns out they do have plans to provide more options. In fact, they plan to have three variants come out sometime in the future, though they didn't go into too much detail about what those variants will exactly be. My guess is that they'll have at least one variant with a rail for mounting optics. I'm excited to see what they come up with.

ARperson
November 1, 2003, 11:03 PM
I'd have to agree with Obiwan , even the part about not shooting one. :D

But I have handled one and they are nice (to me anyway). From what I hear from the folks who have done more than handle, they are just as accurate as a factory AR.

I agree also that you have to handle one. They do handle a bit differently than the AR and are noticable lighter (especially without all the gadgets that AR owners are prone to mount :rolleyes: :D ).

I think the ultimate choice comes down to which one you prefer from a handling point of view and how much you dislike cleaning the AR.

I think the only real advantage to the AR at this point in time is the super wide variety you can get. But it seems as if even that advantage might change in the future. *shrug*

355sigfan
November 1, 2003, 11:26 PM
I loved mine until the reciever broke at the hinge point. Armalite made it right after about 6 weeks. Except the sales rep promised to cover shipping and did not. I let others know about it online at AR15.com and I was contacted by the sales manager who made it right. Not a bad gun design. Much better than most guns in its price range. Its still not AR15 but it beats the hell out of a mini 14.
Pat

Kilroy
November 2, 2003, 12:03 PM
Have handled several, but not fired them. If I didn't have a chance to pick up a number of SP1s for $500 apiece, I'd own an AR180b. Icing on the the cake would be a folding stock, so I could store it in my vehicle. That duty is taken by a Mini-14, which other then size and caliber is a pretty wretched gun.

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