Kindness overwhelms intruder (merged thread)
Mauserlady
October 30, 2003, 12:26 PM
These women are very lucky me thinks
Oct. 30 — After a man wielding a sawed-off shotgun smashed his way into their home Tuesday night, two Carrollwood, Fla., women kept their cool and overpowered the intruder with “kindness.”
CATHY ORD, 60, and Rose Bucher, 63, said they offered the man a ham sandwich with pickles, a bottle of rum and a shower, even providing him with a disposable razor to shave off his scruffy beard, the Tampa Tribune reported Thursday.
They also chatted amiably with the man and agreed to call him a cab when he indicated he was ready to leave. But when the sated “guest” fell asleep while awaiting the cab, they called sheriff’s deputies, who arrested the man, the newspaper said.
Ord and Bucher said they were watching TV about 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday when the man shattered a kitchen window and then walked into the dining room with a shotgun that he leveled at Ord.
“He said he wouldn’t harm us unless we did something smart,” Bucher told the newspaper.
Rather than panic, the women offered the man a sandwich and a bottle of rum, which he promptly consumed. Later, they suggested he use their shower and shave off his beard. He did so, emerging every minute with a towel wrapped around him to make sure the women weren’t calling police, the Tribune said.
Shortly after 3 a.m., the man asked the women to call him a cab, and the women did so. When the cabbie called to say he was having trouble finding the house, the gunman allowed Ord to go outside to flag the taxi. When she returned, the man was snoring peacefully, apparently the victim of too much rum.
After hearing of their ordeal, the cabdriver called 911 and Hillsborough County sheriff’s deputies soon swooped down on the home to arrest the man.
Alfred Joseph Sweet, a 42-year-old homeless man, remained in jail without bail on Wednesday on charges of home invasion and false imprisonment, the newspaper reported.
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Kharn
October 30, 2003, 12:34 PM
Oh no, the Brady Bunch is gonna be running this all over the 6:00 news saying we dont need guns if we're willing to offer our rum to an intruder...
Kharn
Tamara
October 30, 2003, 12:35 PM
Don't have any ham or rum on hand. Reckon I'll just have to continue to keep the 870 loaded... :uhoh:
TallPine
October 30, 2003, 12:35 PM
Anything you can do for distraction is good, whether you are armed or not.
I have to wonder if he took the shotgun into the shower with him.
I would have had another surprise waiting for him when he came out of the shower. :D
Wonder what would happen to the towel when he had to put his hands up? ;)
Tamara
October 30, 2003, 12:40 PM
You definitely have to hand it to the two women for not losing their cool in what must've been an amazingly high pucker-factor scenario... :eek:
Felonious Monk
October 30, 2003, 12:42 PM
...but, WHY is all the Rum Gone? :cool:
Cpt. Jack Sparrow
Henry Bowman
October 30, 2003, 12:43 PM
“He said he wouldn’t harm us unless we did something smart,” Bucher told the newspaper.
Guess they were pretty safe then. "no doing something smart" is what most blissninnies use for their form of protection.
4v50 Gary
October 30, 2003, 12:43 PM
Kudos to those two grandmotherly ladies. They remained composed and lured the perpetrator from condition red to white. He's lucky they didn't have arsenic (like in the b/w Cary Grant movie).
Chipperman
October 30, 2003, 12:47 PM
Did they have several raised mounds of earth in the back yard? :p
Mark Tyson
October 30, 2003, 01:25 PM
I would have offered him burial or cremation instead of ham and rum.
critter
October 30, 2003, 02:04 PM
I'll be offerin' him some ham and rum left handed whilst I do a one-handed rack of that ole 870!
MJRW
October 30, 2003, 02:15 PM
I don't think they were being kind. I think they were trying to kill him Mama Cass style.
ysr_racer
October 30, 2003, 02:18 PM
CATHY ORD, 60, and Rose Bucher, 63, said they offered the man a ham sandwich with pickles,
I'm Jewish, now what?
Erich
October 30, 2003, 02:42 PM
Nothing wrong with pastrami!
Or an Uzi!
MJRW
October 30, 2003, 02:43 PM
ysr, in your case that would be an Assault Ham Sandwich they threatened you with.
Ivanimal
October 30, 2003, 02:50 PM
Those tactics only work if you take the time to offer the food. Personally Mr's Smith and Wesson would be the only thing that would be offered.
TallPine
October 30, 2003, 03:26 PM
I read somewhere awhile back (maybe in an NRA Armed Citizen page) about a guy who offered money to an intruder, who then allowed him to go the the bedroom to retrieve his wallet.
The resident returned with something other than money .... :D
foghornl
October 30, 2003, 03:28 PM
Great job by the elderly ladies ! ! !
For my part, though, I would be offering .24" soft lead balls, travelling in packets of 41 at a time, at several hundred feet per second.
As delivered by my "buddies", O.F. Mossberg & Sons.....
greyhound
October 30, 2003, 07:36 PM
Good grief, those women were some cooool customers.
Wonder if they had planned that out beforehand....
ceetee
October 30, 2003, 07:52 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/custom/fringe/sfl-1030homeinvasion,0,6921961.story?coll=sfla-news-fringe
TAMPA -- Two women in the their 60s say they used kindness, food and rum to subdue a shotgun-wielding man who broke into their house.
Police eventually came and arrested a 52-year-old man after he became groggy from the liquor and passed out.
Cathy Ord and Rose Bucher said they tried to make friends with the man after he burst in through a kitchen window toting a sawed-off shotgun Tuesday night. They made him a ham sandwich, gave him a bottle of rum and suggested he take a shower.
``We just treated him with kindness,'' said Bucher, 63.
The intruder didn't say what he wanted, and the women said they suspected he had committed a crime somewhere and needed a safe place to stay.
``It was so surreal,'' said Ord, 60. She offered him cash and the keys to her Cadillac, but he didn't leave, she said.
He ordered the women to turn off the lights and to whisper when talking. He sat for a long time chatting with the shotgun in his hands.
``He said he wouldn't harm us unless we did something smart,'' Bucher said. The women asked, in a whisper, whether he was hungry. He said yes. They made him a sandwich and a gave him a bottle of rum, and encouraged him to shower and shave so he could ``sort of be disguised in his getaway,'' Ord said.
He called and talked to his girlfriend, the women said, and then, shortly after 3 a.m., he asked whether they would call him a cab.
By the time the cab arrived, he was unconscious. The cab driver called 911, and within minutes more than a dozen sheriff's deputies stormed the house.
Alfred Joseph Sweet was in jail Thursday with no bond, charged with armed home invasion and false imprisonment. Attorney information was unavailable.
spacemanspiff
October 30, 2003, 08:17 PM
i pity the fool that attempts to break into my grandmothers home. she'd undoubtedly get the intruder to start doing chores around her home. paint the window trims, mow the lawn, dig a new garden....
Standing Wolf
October 30, 2003, 08:20 PM
Alfred Joseph Sweet was in jail Thursday with no bond, charged with armed home invasion and false imprisonment.
90 days in the county jail and a year's probation. Bets, anybody?
Sylvilagus Aquaticus
October 30, 2003, 08:33 PM
That much, Wolf?
He might get off if his shyster can prove they got him inebriated and they rolled him.
They don't want me on that jury. He'd better go ahead and plead.
Regards,
Rabbit.
twoblink
October 30, 2003, 09:12 PM
Wolf...
Orange jumpsuit for only 30 days and a new ankle bracelet..
C.R.Sam
October 30, 2003, 09:13 PM
Unorthodox self defence.
And they pulled it off.
Goodonem.
Sam
Mauserlady
October 31, 2003, 12:00 PM
Didn't get to stay around and watch it but Katie (all guns are bad) Couric was going to have one of the ladies on the Today show this morning... Wondering if (and I know this is a stretch) anyone happened to catch it.
WAGCEVP
November 1, 2003, 12:11 AM
Kharn, they all ready are...........
and I quote from an antigunner:
If you want to attack your attacker, go after the patriarchy, with
your words, not your guns. You've completely glorified being a killer. I
completely agree that now a days a girl's gotta be smart, a girl's gotta watch her back...but a gun is not going to help that. Guns only perpetuate violence.
end quote
Matt G
November 1, 2003, 01:24 AM
Later, they suggested he use their shower and shave off his beard. He did so, emerging every minute with a towel wrapped around him to make sure the women weren’t calling police, the Tribune said.
While I applaud the final disposition of their effort, I can't help but think that the best response he could have found upon jumping out in the hallway would have been Granny with a 20 guage leveled at him, with Aunty dialing 911 behind her.
Keeping in mind, people: the man broke into their house and held them prisoner, with a shotgun.
"Yes officer, he's right here in the bathroom. . ." :)
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