Hypothetical "Hollywood" type situation purely for fun!


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ZeppelinM16
September 16, 2009, 02:50 PM
If a situation would present itself, as in a movie, that you would have the opportunity to dual wield two automatic pistols, what would you choose? Just for fun!!! :D
For myself, it would have to be a pair of Glock 35's in 40 S&W.

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hmphargh
September 16, 2009, 02:56 PM
If it was Hollywood style and any firearm can magically become fully automatic, I think that Five-SeveNs with 30 round mags would be my choice.

bigfatdave
September 16, 2009, 03:09 PM
NAA mini revolvers in .22short

halfded
September 16, 2009, 03:09 PM
mac-11's get my vote. In 9mm, of course, for controllability :neener:

I think 2,000 rounds a minute would be a sight to behold, especially at night. A couple hundred round beta mags would be a nice touch as well.

1911 Operator
September 16, 2009, 03:19 PM
If a situation would present itself, as in a movie, that you would have the opportunity to dual wield two automatic pistols, what would you choose? Just for fun!!! :D
For myself, it would have to be a pair of Glock 35's in 40 S&W.
a couple glock 18's with 33 rounds mags :D

khamill2000
September 16, 2009, 03:24 PM
It did present itself not to long ago when I bought my 1911. My buddy brought his to compare. I tried it slow and it was uncontrolable.

Babarsac
September 16, 2009, 03:41 PM
I've wielded dual Makarov's for fun. I couldn't hit squat but I did feel like having a drink of Vodka afterwards.

kanook
September 16, 2009, 03:51 PM
Ruger MP9 would be my vote

3pairs12
September 16, 2009, 03:52 PM
a couple glock 18's with 33 rounds mags

I'll second that

Robert
September 16, 2009, 04:00 PM
Did it with two 1911's ala Last Man Standing... I was lucky to hit the ground.

bigfatdave
September 16, 2009, 08:05 PM
All joking aside ...
I tried it the first day shooting my second Ruger mkIII ... I couldn't resist when there were two almost identical pistols on the table. It was pure point shooting with the left hand's gun, and I found that if the left hand was a bit further back than the right (just enough to have the left ejection port clear of the right gun) it was possible to keep shots on the 4'x5' cardboard with the left hand, of course, accuracy dropped off significantly with the right (worse than shooting with just the off-hand, in fact) but it was possible to keep the right-hand gun on target enough to hit a large silhouette most of the time.

Janos Dracwlya
September 16, 2009, 10:13 PM
I've dual-wielded Makarovs once a long time ago. Couldn't hit much, but it was fun, and they guy down at the other end of the line in the indoor range where we were shooting gave me a dirty look (he was teaching his wife to shoot; I guess he didn't want her getting bad ideas) Basically, we were done, but we had enough 9x18 left to load two magazines...

Years later, I tried dual Ruger Vaqueros in cowboy action shooting. Shooting relatively slowly, I hit all my targets; despite my low speed, it impressed just about everyone on my posse.

NMGonzo
September 16, 2009, 10:35 PM
Dual wielding about anything is my Hollywood setup

DR505
September 16, 2009, 10:39 PM
How about dual Hawken .50's like in "Jeremiah Johnson?" :neener:

earlthegoat2
September 17, 2009, 07:27 AM
NAA mini revolvers in .22short

I bet they would stop the bad guys with one shot no problem. And thankfully you wouldnt have to reload.

indiandave
September 17, 2009, 07:59 AM
A pair of Colt 1851 Navy revolvers. Then again my movie takes place in 1852.

TMM
September 17, 2009, 01:41 PM
i'd have to say that two micro-uzi's would be very fun to use... very safe for the target too, since i probably wouldn't hit a thing...:rolleyes:

tmm

Cosmoline
September 17, 2009, 01:57 PM
I found that if the left hand was a bit further back than the right

Yup, and go a bit further back and the left hand will shoot off the right. It's reckless.

Thekid90
September 17, 2009, 02:16 PM
how about dual dessert eagles for ridiculous overkill and cool factor. (not that i could contol them)

BRad704
September 17, 2009, 02:29 PM
How bout a pair of Taurus Judge's? Should make it a bit easier to put SOME lead on target...

Norinco982lover
September 17, 2009, 02:42 PM
Dual AK pistols.

Yep. Heavy but it would be oh so fun.

~Norinco

Maelstrom
September 17, 2009, 03:38 PM
Whatever guns you choose should have a very high capacity for two reasons:

1-we're reinventing "spray and pray"

2-you can't reload since the hand you would grab a second magazine with has a gun in it

SharpsDressedMan
September 17, 2009, 06:34 PM
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05450.jpghttp://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05449.jpg............................. It took me awhile, but learning to shoot with both hands, at the same time, is a bit of a challenge. As a cop, learning to use the weak hand was a necessity, and I faired pretty well. When I got the bug to learn to use two guns at the same time, I found that the brain doesn't want to use both sides at the same time, for the same chore. My dominant left eye side made me always pull my right hand shots to the left, and this causes a crossed path, often before it hit the target, and varied with the distance to the target. I also found a practical way to carry lots of .45 1911 mags: buy a Galco DMC for the Glock 21, and stretch it a bit to hold two 1911 mgs in each side. I have two DMC's, and an older Bianchi double pouch, so that that's 10 mags, plus the two in the guns. I have no idea where Hollywood puts all the mags (a la Bruce Willis in "Last Man Standing"). It is NOT comfortable to put lots of loaded 1911 mags in your pockets..

mustang_steve
September 17, 2009, 07:44 PM
Two Silenced M1895 Nagant revolvers, Hematite grips.

bigfatdave
September 17, 2009, 07:55 PM
Yup, and go a bit further back and the left hand will shoot off the right. It's reckless.
Oh, geez, I didn't think of that!
Of course it is reckless, and of course it is silly, which is why when the compulsion struck, I actually thought about it, and tried it under controlled conditions, rather than pulling a YouTube video-worthy stunt.
Actual thought about the equipment available and the experiment to be attempted gave me a few guidelines to follow:
Left-hand gun should be a few inches behind the right
Left-hand gun should have the longer barrel
Neither gun should have any signifigant recoil
Both guns should be comfortable in the hand and point-shootable

Using a pair of Ruger autoloaders, one with a 5.5" barrel, and one with a 6.875" barrel, the above guidelines were quite easy to follow, and you can read my above post (typed with all 10 fingers!) to get the results of my experiment ... but I'll give an executive summary here:
Dual-wielding pistols is damn near impossible under controlled conditions with the ideal guns, for practical application, it is not practical, not safe, and not a good idea.
But it was fun to try.

earlthegoat2, considering we're talking about Hollywood guns here, of course a pair of NAA minis in .22short would do the job and never need a reload. Plus, with single-action revolvers, you can shoot L-R-L-R in a semi-controlled fashion

SharpsDressedMan
September 17, 2009, 08:29 PM
To say it can't be done....just makes me want to do it. If you take it slow, and start on one target, you can eventually reprogram your brain. .22 Units for 1911's, or using similar softair guns might be another, safer way to start. First, you learn to shoot one gun, strong handed, one handed. Then learn to shoot the same gun with your weak hand, one handed. Now get to the point where you can "point shoot" with your strong hand. When taking up both guns, just let your instinct "point shoot" with the strong hand, and focust your brain on the weak hand. The strong hand will probably still "point" as it has been taught, but now you are working on the less practiced side of the brain, and forcing it to work, also. There is a bit of "override" going on in the brain for all of this. After you master two hands on one target, and it all gets too easy, then you take on multiple targets, with a single gun on each! :evil::neener::banghead::cuss:

jpatterson
September 17, 2009, 08:39 PM
It'd have to be 1911's, 'Punisher' and 'Last Man Standing' style. I have messed around with a single six and a Beretta target .22 before, it was fun, but silly. Especially having a single action six shooter and a semi-automatic! Haha.

DougDubya
September 18, 2009, 11:38 AM
Not a pair of semi-autos, but two Smith and Wesson TR8 revolvers in a double shoulder-holster rig.

For semi-autos - c'mon...

A matched pair of Tokarevs. Why?

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/hardboiled.jpg

That's why.

NMGonzo
September 18, 2009, 01:00 PM
I want the same setup than sharp dressed man but with Glock 35's

Now ... I need a second Glock 35

mcdonl
September 18, 2009, 01:29 PM
Howda pistols... if there is a howda pistol...

Blank Stare 73
September 18, 2009, 03:08 PM
I just want to be able to shoot and kill four men with a single action revolver, just like Clint Eastwood in Fist full of Dollars..........all while telling jokes..:D before they are even able to pull their guns.......too cool

AcceptableUserName
September 18, 2009, 03:59 PM
stainless Sig p220's for COOLNESS facttor :D

outerlimit
September 18, 2009, 04:08 PM
It did present itself not to long ago when I bought my 1911. My buddy brought his to compare. I tried it slow and it was uncontrolable.

Yea, I'm glad you tried it out slow. I think I would shoot myself in the arm or shoot my hand off, or opposite gun out of my hand pretty easily trying to rapid fire two 1911's. And I'm used to shooting them with 230gr +P and I'm not a small guy.

I think it can be done like you said, fairly slow and making sure to keep your hands far apart. Anything else is pretty risky in my opinion and not worth losing function of several digits over.

Starcheck55
September 19, 2009, 08:59 PM
if i was actually trying to hit something/anything....i'd go with a five seven or a race gun like STI Edge.

for sure comedic value SW 500 revolvers (4").

The Lone Haranguer
September 19, 2009, 10:22 PM
1911 with at least one having an ambidextrous safety, or Glock.

fattboyzz
September 19, 2009, 10:30 PM
the glock 18s with the 33rd mags sounds great !!

Hawthorne2k
September 19, 2009, 10:57 PM
A pair of nickel-plated long slide .45's, because if it's good enough for Lamont Cranston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow), it's good enough for me. :D

jordan1948
September 19, 2009, 11:01 PM
AK pistols of course, with 75-rd drums 'cause I'm a bad@$$ hahaha I'm joking I'm not that self centered.....

DougDubya
September 19, 2009, 11:06 PM
A pair of nickel-plated long slide .45's, because if it's good enough for Lamont Cranston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow), it's good enough for me. :D
I don't have a Shadow of an idea what you're talking about. ;)

Seamore2001
September 21, 2009, 01:46 PM
A pair of nickel-plated long slide .45's, because if it's good enough for Lamont Cranston, it's good enough for me.

Ha! And I thought I might be showing my age if I mentioned The Ghost Who Walks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom). :p

Vikingsoftpaw
September 24, 2009, 06:16 AM
A pair of Randall Arms .45 1911's. The righty version in the right hand and the lefty version in the left hand!!!!!!!:):):)

PandaBearBG
September 24, 2009, 07:40 AM
Dual wielding two pistols?! That my friend is over kill and a picture of excessive over the top firepower. That being said, you might as well go to the extreme! So I would choose 2 .50 Desert Eagle, gold plated of course! Then spend a night in the hospital to heal my broken wrists. :)

Archie
September 24, 2009, 03:17 PM
I'd go for a pair of S&W revolvers, either K or N frame .357 Magnums or perhaps a pair of 1917 revolvers. Reloading might be difficult with a revolver in each hand, but it would look cool.

For the vintage nostalgia feeling, how about a pair of S&W M&Ps with two inch barrels?

SharpsDressedMan
September 24, 2009, 05:38 PM
For two 1911's, try this: Dump both magazines, slides locked open. Place the gun used in the weak hand, top of the slide down, into the crook of your strong hand's elbow. That will place the butt up, staring right at you. Right next to it will be the open mag well of strong hand gun. Grab two magazines from the aforementioned double-double pouch (I use a Galco DMC for a Glock 21, and stretch the pockets a bit to hold 2x2 .45 1911 mags), and while bringing them up to the two 1911's (one braced in the crook of the elbow, the other in stronghand), splay the mags slightly apart from each other in the hand, so that one can more easily be put into the strong hand gun first, then charge the gun in the crook. Regrasp the gun-in-elbow with the weak hand, bring forward (aimed at target), then release both slides (left hand is done with the trigger finger on the slide release), and proceed. In a real gunfight, you'd probably never want to shoot "dry", but that is a lot of impossible memory stuff to remember how many shots for two guns, and whether you have an almost empty gun, especially if firing random shots with each gun. For "two gun fun", shooting till empty tells you the guns are now empty and "safe", locked open (for visual inspection, too), and then you can do the cool two gun "charge" of the slides at the same time. I've worked on this "double gun reloading" for awhile, and this is one of the safest ways to do it, keeping muzzles away and down range, and not fooling with partially charged guns, etc. The guns are locked open, empty, and "safe" until charged. If you can work out a better or safer way, let me know. It should work with MOST semi-autos with controls similar to the 1911.

funkychinaman
September 24, 2009, 06:14 PM
I was going to say sliding down a railing with two Toks blazing, but DougDubya beat me to it. I would not go with the toothpick though, that's just a disaster waiting to happen.

Second place might be handing someone a pair of revolvers like you're surrendering, then flipping them around and blowing them away like in Outlaw Josie Wales, the greatest Western ever.

Third place would be shooting at marauding bikers from the back of a pickup truck with a submachine gun like in the end of Cobra.

Broken11b
September 25, 2009, 12:18 AM
i can't believe nobody has mentioned Rooster Cogburn, reins in teeth, charging the emeny with two revolvers blasting

Lord Samwise
September 25, 2009, 01:12 AM
Doesn't the Duke rock with a .45 Colt and a 30-30 lever action at some point in that movie as well??



As for me I like the idea of 2x S&W TR8s, with piles of moon clips all over the place, rockin' reloads left and right.. Someone needs to make that movie!

Diamondback6
September 25, 2009, 01:57 AM
A pair of compensated, 6" or 7" 1911s, specially built to be a left- and right-handed set.

SDM, care to elaborate on this? I've been doing some work on the subject, and with some quirks of my eyes (I tend to look at everything sideways, my peripheral vision is actually better at around a 15- to 30-degree angle-off than straight ahead) and my peculiar neurology some of the LEOs I shoot with think I might have a crack at creating the illusion of a "simultaneous multi-target engagement", even though it's really just a faster transition from one eye/hand/iron "assembly" to the other.

RX-178
September 25, 2009, 04:43 AM
I've actually done it, but I cheat and use lasers. It was a CCF-framed Glock 17L and a Kel-Tec PLR-16 in this case, the two lightest-recoiling high-cap weapons that I own. Not really any groups that anybody would be proud of, but peppering center mass on a human silhouette is better than I expected.

SharpsDressedMan
September 25, 2009, 07:08 PM
Of course it's Hollywood, but Kevin Costner in "Silverado" doing a quick draw, and shooting two guys simultaneously outside the saloon at about at 30 degree angle. Diamondback6, with your vision, you could probably practice something like this, using your peripheral. I thought about trying to find a gravel pit, or some safe place, where I could practice a panoramic shooting thing like that, starting with doing it by "feel" with my strong hand (pointshooting), and actually aiming with the weak hand, starting out at 3-5 yards, and working my way out to 7-10 yards. Once I get indexed in my mind with my strong hand, that hand becomes pretty natural to pointshoot. With blanks, and guys payed to fall down right when you fire, "Silverado" makes it look pretty easy! But wouldn't be just the cat's aZZ to really be able to take on two targets at the same time? Long slide 1911's would probably be easier to align, once you got used to handling them, just as snubnose guns might be more of a challenge. Longslides are pretty expensive, though. Revolvers are o.k. if you don't mind having only 6-8 shots, but trying to reload two revolvers boggles my mind.....I have the 1911's figured out, and that is tricky enough. Show me double revolver reloading...:)

blue german
September 27, 2009, 09:19 PM
In my younger days, when I was dealing with nasty, gun-weilding miscreants on a regular basis, I carried two Star Model 30s (a 30pk and a 30M) in a dual Miami Classic shoulder rig. I carried 4 spare mags in a Bianchi Quad pouch on the front left side of my belt.

But I seldom shot these two guns at the same time....the 2nd gun was just used in lieu of a fast reload. I COULD keep all shots in the K zone of a silhouette at 10-12 yards firing both....left....right ....left ....right.... but never used this technique 'for real'.

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