most accurate packaged ammor for a 1/9 AR


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testosterone
September 17, 2009, 02:27 PM
Can anyone advise, in general, what is the most accurate 100 yd load for a 22" 1/9 twist AR?

Hornady or Blackhills, something I can get off the shelf...

I have a Rem R15 that will print 1 and 1/4 inch to 2 inch at 100 with walmart fed bulk pack.

We have a 100 yd rested match coming up at my club and I want to see what it will do with premium ammo, but don't know what the best load is...40gr, 52gr, 70gr????

thanks!

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faire bien de...!
September 17, 2009, 02:35 PM
Well, in general, I'd say you'd be pretty well off with any of the "match" ammo out there. I hear Federal Gold Metal 69gr is one of the best off the shelf.

R.W.Dale
September 17, 2009, 02:35 PM
Any answers to such questions would be useless to you as they'd only pertain to individual rifles.

Simply put you'll have to find what YOUR rifle shoots best

rcmodel
September 17, 2009, 02:41 PM
I would test some 55 grain plastic-tip varmint ammo at least.
Hornady V-Max, Nosler Ballistic Tip, Remington AccuTip-V™, etc.

Everyone is loading it under different names, but look for the plastic-tip bullets and you can't go too far wrong.

Black Hills Match in heavier bullet weights is also very good, but you won't find it everywhere.

rc

Water-Man
September 17, 2009, 02:47 PM
Generally, Black Hills or Hornady TAP in 77gr. but you'll have to experiment with your own rifle.

testosterone
September 17, 2009, 02:53 PM
so, I understand it will be rifle dependent, I was looking for a general idea.

I am mildly suprised that 55gr and 77gr are both recommended, but I'm a newb to this.

Owen
September 17, 2009, 02:57 PM
will 1/9 stabilize the 77gr stuff?

rcmodel
September 17, 2009, 02:58 PM
You said you were only shooting 100 yards.

The long 77 grain bullet may not even settle down and fly right at close range.

At very long range the heavy bullet would be a clear winner.
At close range the 55 grain might surprise you.

Nobody makes inaccurate varmint ammo!
And the plastic-tip varmint ammo is uniformely good stuff.

rc

Maverick223
September 17, 2009, 03:09 PM
I would try two loads: Hornady 52gr. A-Max (loaded in Hornady Match...75gr. also available), and 69gr. Sierra Match King (loaded in Federal Gold Medal Match). Both have outstanding performance from my experience...try both and pick the best performer.

The Black Hills 52gr. Match may also be a nice load to try if you can find a box. :)

ugaarguy
September 17, 2009, 03:22 PM
69 grain is usually about the heaviest bullet a 1/9 twist .223/5.56 will stabilize. Hornady says their 75 grain TAP FPD will shoot in a 1/9 or faster twist barrel though. I'd try match bullets in the 60 to 75 grain range from any of the major manufacturers. 1/9 twist usually won't stabilize the 77 grain bullets.

GooseGestapo
September 17, 2009, 10:56 PM
With your 22" bbl, you might be able to stabilize the 77gr Sierra. I'd not consider the 75gr A-max or any 80gr or heavier.

The BlackHills in 55-69gr would be my choice. Don't rule out the Remington with the PHP bullets. Occasionaly a rifle will adore the 52 or 55gr PHP ammo. Otherwise, the Hornady, BlackHills, or Federal Premium ammo will be your best bets.

Personally, I've seen some sub-1/2 moa groups shot by some AR's with the 55gr Nosler B.T.'s With 26.9gr of BLC2, it would be my choice....

rangerruck
September 18, 2009, 03:12 AM
there will be 3; winchester white box, 45 grain varmints, will be most accurate, then black hills blue box, plain jane 55 grainers. Lastly , believe it or not plain jane remington/umc green and yellow box, 55 grainers. In that order.
check this; cz, 527 carbine, 100 yds, sandbag rests.
remmy's first.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/53557d05.jpg
then black hills
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/e82c12fd.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics002.jpg
then the winny's, notice these groups, are actually 1 hole punches at 100yds!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics031.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics015.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics016.jpg

I did not include the wolf, though they are pictured. They had potential to
be real good, and I suppose if I had the time , I could have caliper'd them, to
get some OA lenghts, and rim thickness and stuff, to make them more the
same. But straight out of the box, they could be quite accurate, but as you
can see, flyer prone.

FlyinBryan
September 18, 2009, 08:03 PM
well, like krochus said, it will vary from rifle to rifle.

mine like 52g amax bullets with cci primers, and 22 grains of h322, seated at 2.245" with a moderate crimp with the lee factory crimp die.

a little better than m.o.a.

i havent found a factory load that comes close.

Maverick223
September 18, 2009, 11:14 PM
i havent found a factory load that comes close.Have you tried the 52gr. Hornady Match? It is loaded with those same bullets...which doesn't necessarily mean anything...but worth a shot if you haven't tried it. :)

GRIZ22
September 18, 2009, 11:23 PM
We have a 100 yd rested match coming up at my club and I want to see what it will do with premium ammo, but don't know what the best load is...40gr, 52gr, 70gr????



You really need to test the ammo in your gun. What works best in R15 sn 00006 is not necessarily the best in sn 00005 or sn 00007.

With that said I find 55 gr WW white box 223 shoots about 3/4" in my DPMS heavy barrel.

FlyinBryan
September 18, 2009, 11:25 PM
Have you tried the 52gr. Hornady Match? It is loaded with those same bullets...which doesn't necessarily mean anything...but worth a shot if you haven't tried it.

honestly? no, i havent.

certainly possible, i just havent found it, but then again i havent looked (i.e. purchased) any factory centerfire ammo in years, other than the greek 30-06 that cmp sells, and i really was more excited about getting the greek brass than the ammo, although that ammo did turn out to really surprise me in terms of quality. it did also turn out to be fantastic brass. its close in quality to some demilled lake city machinegun brass i was lucky enough to get my hands on.

Maverick223
September 18, 2009, 11:59 PM
I am currently trying to decide if it is worth reloading for 5.56/.223 or not. I have the equipment and have rolled a few...but at about the same cost as the average brass cased factory loads (about $0.50/round), so I feel like I'm stepping backwards. OTOH, my .223 is simply a fun plinker so I don't expect or really strive for match grade accuracy in that particular rifle. :)

jpwilly
September 19, 2009, 12:54 AM
I'd go with the 50gr stuff those 1-9" seem to like it best.

Runningman
September 19, 2009, 05:50 AM
Can't say what your rifle will do without testing. But in the 223 and 5.56 generally a 52 grain match bullet will shoot the better 10 shot groups at 100 and 200 yards over any of the heaver match loads. The 50 and 55 grain Nosler B/T will also do well generally.

The longer match bullets such as 68 and 69 grain or more usually have not gone to sleep yet at 100 yards. And rarely start to strut their stuff till 300 yards compared a good 52 grain match load.

Nicky Santoro
September 19, 2009, 08:07 AM
Well, in general, I'd say you'd be pretty well off with any of the "match" ammo out there. I hear Federal Gold Metal 69gr is one of the best off the shelf.

It is really good. It shoots sub-MOA out of my Armalite 1/9 with the right shooter.

testosterone
September 28, 2009, 12:06 PM
mini range report.

I bought a box of Hornday 55rg Moly vmax.

.5 inch groups, with multiple almost exact hole in hole hits, at 100 yds were "easy" so long as I held it perfectly still, which even on bags is always harder to do than I expect. scope reticle seemed biggish obscuring the red dot that was point of aim, so it made it hard to find the exact point of aim on successive shots.

With a better scope and a better trigger operator than myself, I suspect this ammo in this rifle could could maybe do a .3 to .4 for a best group, but do up to .75 regularly.

Maverick223
September 28, 2009, 12:26 PM
Sounds good, you are unlikely to find something that is a great deal better (other than reloads developed for your rifle). Good luck and make sure and give a macro range report after the match. :)

jbech123
September 28, 2009, 01:17 PM
I've had great luck with the black hills blue box 52 grain match. As others have said, you will have to try it in your rifle, but it has worked well for me in 2 different rifles with a 9 twist.

rangerruck
September 28, 2009, 08:06 PM
winchester, big white box, 45 grain varmint hollow point-1st, black hills plane jane blue box 55's-2nd, remmy/umc plane jane plane box 55 grainers, not sure of solid or hollow point- 3rd.

I refuse to show you my 100 yds targets to prove it!! lets just say they are typical, of what
I have shot with them, through both 1/9 and 1/12 twists. Not the accuracy is typical, but close to
that, and in that order.

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