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mountainpharm
September 18, 2009, 07:53 PM
OK, so for the last 2 days there has been a stray cat behind the house meowing and carrying on at all hours of the night. I went to work this morning on 1 hour of sleep (I'm a hospital pharmacist). I spent about 2 hours chasing it all over my property this afternoon in an attempt to catch it and take it to an animal shelter, to no avail. Around 5:30 I finally shot it. I didn't kill it and my son was with me and freaked out -- wouldn't let me finish it off. Long story short, he brought it back to the house and my wife got on the phone trying to find an emergency vet. Somewhere in the phone calls, she was advised to call Animal Control (without my knowledge). She got the Animal Control guy on the phone and he said for me not to leave the house -- that he needed me present to process the situation. I'm sitting here waiting for him now. Should I be at all concerned? I live in NC, by the way.

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chevyforlife21
September 18, 2009, 07:56 PM
im pretty sure all domestic animals count as much as shooting a person. think about when a criminal shoots a officers dog, he gets years in prison for it. yes i would be scared in your case man.

bigeye
September 18, 2009, 07:58 PM
Remember, never speak to police. If the animal control can arrest you on your responses, or refer them to a prosecutor - - -I would be in contact with my attorney FIRST. Sad lesson for your son. When this is all over sit down with him and have a long talk. YOU are his most important person. Do not put yourself in a position of having him visit you behind bars.

HexHead
September 18, 2009, 07:58 PM
im pretty sure all domestic animals count as much as shooting a person. think about when a criminal shoots a officers dog, he gets years in prison for it. yes i would be scared in your case man.
I'd say there's a difference between someone's pet and a feral animal.

chris in va
September 18, 2009, 07:59 PM
I'm sure someone will be along to give you the NC statutes, but it just depends on the state and locality. Some states allow shooting/killing of feral animals, others don't. Don't panic just yet.

However if the AC officer starts hinting you need to "come with us" etc, I'd shut up and retain a lawyer. My friend in VA got charged with a felony for shooting a feral cat, only because the neighbor had been feeding it and reported him to the police. His conviction was a misdemeanor only because his lawyer was pretty darn good.

HexHead
September 18, 2009, 07:59 PM
BTW, hindsight being 20/20, you should have just called animal control in the first place to come pick it up.

Forklift352
September 18, 2009, 08:00 PM
If you lived in Oregon you wouldn't have time to post....
Tear gas would cloud your vision and the flash bang grenade would
leave you deaf.

bigfatdave
September 18, 2009, 08:04 PM
Well, that was stupid. And I work a rotating shift, so I understand your frustration about getting some sleep. I can even understand the lapse in judgment while sleep deprived, to some degree. Being sleep deprived doesn't give you a free pass, however.
You now get to explain all about discharging a firearm in a residential area, explain why you felt a kitten was a threat to your health and safety, perhaps go through a grilling about why you were packing.

Next time, get a humane trap, bait it with a can of tuna, and remove the critter to a remote location. Or at least dispatch the feral wildlife in a humane (and effective) fashion before a household member decides to make a pet of it.

If you brought in a stray, you should be checking for fleas (and other vermin) on your other pets and household members, by the way.

mountainpharm
September 18, 2009, 08:09 PM
I guess I should say that I do not live in the city limits so at least the discharging of a firearm won't be a problem. Still waiting on the guy to show up. Will post a follow-up to let you know what happens.

Birdmang
September 18, 2009, 08:12 PM
If you are going to shoot an animal then you should do it and finish it off, then throw it in the garbage. No reason to call anyone.

Too late for that.

tkendrick
September 18, 2009, 08:17 PM
Hamburger meat and D-con rat poison. It's not as satisfying, but it works every time.

kingpin008
September 18, 2009, 08:19 PM
For those who have advocated calling animal control, good luck with that. I've worked for animal resuces and had to call animal control officers myself in the past, and unless the animal is a direct threat to itself, a domestic pet, or a human they'll usually tell you to go pound sand. This is in the suburbs, mind you - not way out in the sticks where there are always animals around.

Also, good luck getting them to come out after hours (usually any time after five or six p.m.) even for an emergency. In most locales, it's just not gonna happen.

Larry Ashcraft
September 18, 2009, 08:23 PM
Seems like a lot of very bad advice so far.

I frankly doubt if you are going to see prison time for shooting a feral cat. You might have handled it better, but you are guilty of being human.

I would be willing to bet that animal control would rather you had just killed the cat.

And before everybody jumps all over me, I'm a cat lover and have four of my own, but feral cats are a big problem.

FlyinBryan
September 18, 2009, 08:26 PM
first off. i would not have shot the cat. they make live traps that are actually fun to use and they dont hurt the animal. i have one and have used it many times for just the same situation.

trap the stray animal, and haul it to the country.
i know that does not help you now, but it might in the future.

it also doesnt help to suggest that you dont take your boy on your missions, so that you can put that animal out of its misery.

if i shot it, and wounded it, boy or not, id have to finish it.

alemonkey
September 18, 2009, 08:29 PM
I've worked for animal resuces and had to call animal control officers myself in the past, and unless the animal is a direct threat to itself, a domestic pet, or a human they'll usually tell you to go pound sand.

I've had the same problem myself...at my old house someone in the neighborhood had a Weimeraner that they just let run loose all over the place. It was always getting into trash cans and making a mess. I called animal control and they told me if I wanted anything done I had to catch it myself. I tried, and it nearly bit me, but they still did nothing.

Back on topic, feral cats are a huge problem. They kill an awful lot of wildlife. I have a cat myself, but he's indoor only. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a feral one if I lived out in the country.

iiibdsiil
September 18, 2009, 08:30 PM
If the discharging the gun won't be a problem, I doubt the cat will be either.

content
September 18, 2009, 08:40 PM
Hello friends and neighbors// Was it acting strange like it had rabies maybe. Could be threat to family.

oh and +1 to #6

I lived in York county S.C. beside a lake. Saw a big cotton mouth on a log half in/out of the water near my hammock. Called Sheriff to inform them about dischargeing shotgun with #7 shot.(right at waters edge all the neighbors would see/hear some might call) . They asked how far across water to others. Determined ammo would not skip. They said go for it. I never heard another thing.

Larry Ashcraft
September 18, 2009, 08:44 PM
trap the stray animal, and haul it to the country.
Where it will either starve to death or be eaten by coyotes.

Bad advice. I don't want your problem animals in my neighborhood.

And folks, coyotes don't usually bother humanely killing their prey before eating it.

hirundo82
September 18, 2009, 08:45 PM
trap the stray animal, and haul it to the country.
i know that does not help you now, but it might in the future.
That just makes it someone else's problem. It sounds like the OP lives in the country, so there is a significant possibility that what you are describing is what caused the problem in the first place (someone dropping the cat off along the side of the road).

I like cats, but if you do live-trap one there are only two responsible ways to take care of it--either drop it off at the pound, or kill it humanely. What the OP was trying to do is not irresponsible if done correctly/humanely, and is not against the law in most sane states (NC is borderline).

.38 Special
September 18, 2009, 08:56 PM
So you got ticked off, shot a housecat, freaked your son out to the point that he "wouldn't ALLOW you" to finish it off, and then your wife tried to find a vet to save the life of the cat you intentionally shot?

Brother, you've got bigger problems than a little trouble with animal control! :D

MountainBear
September 18, 2009, 09:10 PM
Sorry to be disgusting, but the proper term for you living outside the city limits is Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-Up.

Feral cats are an issue all over. Relocating them simply shifts responsibility to another area where they can reproduce there. You started the day right by trying to humanely (shooting is humane, not finishing it was not) dispose of a pest. Next time leave or send the kid home and finish the job. Being outside the city limits, I assume you should be fine legally speaking.

jdub3
September 18, 2009, 09:18 PM
I agree with .38 special. Not sure how old your son is, but he either shouldn't have been there for the event or you should have finished the cat off despite his wishes.

Hope you don't face any serious consequences, financial, legal or domestic.

Bruno2
September 18, 2009, 09:30 PM
I dont think that this will be an issue . Out of the city limits shoot as you desire . Ferrel cat or nusiance . I dont know why they want to talk to you . I wouldnt worry about it . I would ask him a lot of hypothetical questions before I started answering his;) .

A police dog is considered a police officer even kicking and punching them while they are attacking you is considered assaulting an officer .I am pretty sure this cat wasnt part of your LEO .

Erik M
September 18, 2009, 09:31 PM
im pretty sure all domestic animals count as much as shooting a person. think about when a criminal shoots a officers dog, he gets years in prison for it. yes i would be scared in your case man.
ok, PETA, definetly wrong on this one. A police officers dog is property of a police department and therefore the animal itself and its training is an asset of the taxpayers. That is why he counts as an officer. I would tell animal control that the animal was feral and you feared that it might harm your child or one of your domentic animals. In fact tell them thats what it was trying to do.

9MMare
September 18, 2009, 09:39 PM
Hamburger meat and D-con rat poison. It's not as satisfying, but it works every time.

This is wrong. You have no control over what animal(s) you will kill with that. It's irresponsible.

9MMare
September 18, 2009, 09:40 PM
. think about when a criminal shoots a officers dog, he gets years in prison for it. yes i would be scared in your case man.

K-9 'officers' are classed as 'police' and the penalties for assaulting or killing them are much stiffer than for killing someone's pet.

9MMare
September 18, 2009, 09:44 PM
Where it will either starve to death or be eaten by coyotes.

Bad advice. I don't want your problem animals in my neighborhood.

And folks, coyotes don't usually bother humanely killing their prey before eating it.

If it was only 2 days, it may have been someone's lost pet. Seems a little drastic for a couple of days.....not to mention not being able to follow thru and kill it....Sounds like working on all emotion to me...pissed off at the cat, then subject to the crying kid.

Sorry to be harsh, I just think we need to think things thru before resorting to deadly force, even for an animal.

Edit: sorry, I was agreeing with Larry.....cats do not belong out in the wild. They're unnatural predators that take a toll on wildlife.

scottaschultz
September 18, 2009, 09:48 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but the BS meter is pegging off the scale at my house. The guy shoots a cat, his wife calls animal control, they tell him not to leave. What does he do? He gets on a gun forum not once, but twice while waiting for the authorities to show up!

By all means, DO NOT CALL A LAWYER IN THE TOWN WHERE YOU LIVE!!! Get on the Internet and ask a bunch of strangers what to do!

Where did I put that can of air freshener??? This is definitely not passing the smell test!

Scott

2RCO
September 18, 2009, 09:52 PM
I know a guy that shot a nuisance dog with a bow and arrow and unfortunately didn't kill it. The dog made it into a neighbors yard where they took it to a vet. The Archer spent a short time in county lockup. This was in MO.

If you'd killed the cat and left it at that you'd be fine. Deciding to save it after you shot it was a big mistake. Now you are in for Animal Cruelty charges which in some areas can be pretty bad. Letting your son see all this was a really bad idea.

If I was you I would quickly call my lawyer. As a pharmacist you certainly don't need to be drug into criminal charges. Pray to whoever you pray to that you get an animal control officer who is sympathetic to your cause and doesn't want to make a big deal of it.

Most of all at this point trying to cover anything up is not only hopeless but just adds to the possible criminal charges. Get a lawyer and shut up until that lawyer tells you to talk.

mountainpharm
September 18, 2009, 09:59 PM
OK, the Animal Control officers just left and both were A+ guys -- very cordial. In fact, I think I found two new motorcycle riding and shooting buddies in this little fiasco. Anyway, according to NC law, if the cat had been here for 3 days it would have been considered my personal property and there would have been no penalty (wish I had known that BEFORE he asked me what happened). As it turns out, I was cited for animal cruelty and got a $100 fine. The citation is confidential as long as I pay the fine within 10 days, so that's about as good as I could have hoped for.

Regarding the trapping of the cat and taking it out to the country somewhere, that could very well be what happened to me. I live out in the country and I'm figuring someone dropped it off out here instead of taking care of the problem to begin with.

.38 Special said I've got bigger problems than animal control. Yeah, I think you're right! Even after 15 years I guess there are things to learn about our spouses and kids. I'm giving the kid a break this time -- we're not hunters so this was the first time he had seen anything like this.

Today's lesson: Try to capture first. If unsuccessful, send everyone to town and then shoot. Keep shooting until dead if necessary. Dig hole. Bury. Consider using AK or AR instead of 10/22 next time.

No BS here, scottaschultz. I'm happy to scan a copy of the citation and post it if you want to see it.

2RCO
September 18, 2009, 10:02 PM
Mountainpharm Glad it worked out OK for you.

You got off really well with a $100 fine.

If I were you I would also ask the Mods to delete this thread.

scottaschultz
September 18, 2009, 10:09 PM
OK, well then maybe its just me, but it wouldn't even occur to me to go to a gun forum on the Internet and wait for a response from a bunch of strangers with unknown legal qualifications while waiting for the authorities to show up. What an idiot I am!

Scott

MountainBear
September 18, 2009, 10:13 PM
You're not being an idiot, but you are being borderline rude. When you get stressed, you seek advise as reassurance. After consulting proper legal counsel, this is as good a place as any to talk to people. Like your mother said, if you have nothing nice to say, stop talking.

SteveCase
September 18, 2009, 10:17 PM
Should have just killed it, even if it does sound harsh for you son to see it. You might get in trouble with the law, and you may not. But your still gonna have to explain everything to your son. But if you just killed it you wouldn't have to deal with the law.

dbarile
September 18, 2009, 10:20 PM
Pharm:

Nice to hear that the situation has resolved itself.

Hindsight is 20/20 so I have nothing to add.

Hope you get some sleep.

Here's to tomorrow.

Balrog
September 18, 2009, 10:20 PM
trap the stray animal, and haul it to the country.

City people do this all the time. They will dump stray dogs and cats off in the country because they don't have the spine to deal with the problem. Anybody want to guess what farmers do when stray dogs show up eating their chickens?

mountainpharm
September 18, 2009, 10:22 PM
I guess I came here because I was a bit incredulous that they told me not to leave. I didn't think I would get into any real trouble over this, but the initial response from Animal Control took me so off guard. I was doing some work on my laptop when they told me not to leave, so I just headed on over here to see if anyone else had experience with this sort of thing. If I did this somewhere like CA or Mass, I could definitely see big legal problems coming down the pike and would have sought more formal advice.

If nothing else, maybe this will be informative to others (in NC, at least). Thanks to all who responded.

scottaschultz
September 18, 2009, 10:33 PM
OK, I apologize if I offended the OP.

Scott

ConstitutionCowboy
September 18, 2009, 10:35 PM
I had more trouble with feral cats in town than where I live now. 3 or 4 times a month it seems the females were howling "I want it NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW".

That, and using the flower beds for a toilet....

Calling animal control was useless. The only thing that worked was trapping them and taking them to the local city-run animal shelter.

As for advice: Call a lawyer, don't say anything, and don't consent to any searches nor voluntarily surrender any firearms.

Woody

Warhawk83
September 18, 2009, 10:45 PM
PLEASE do NOT advise anyone to "haul it off to the country". I deal with morons doing this at least once a week. Apparently they think I live in the country, I live 3 miles outside the city limits.

I have personally taken 5 dogs to the pound, called animal control twice,and deal with feral cats on a DAILY basis. Animal Control in my area flat out refuses to pick up a cat.

FlyinBryan
September 18, 2009, 10:50 PM
City people do this all the time. They will dump stray dogs and cats off in the country because they don't have the spine to deal with the problem.

anyone in the city with enough spine to go chasing a cat around the block with a rifle should have that spine topped off with a brain as soon as possible.

DagoRed
September 18, 2009, 10:53 PM
A coworkers wife was working in the bushes next to their house when she inadvertently startled or stepped on a cat. It bit her just above the back of the ankle. She suffered a nasty wound, ended up in the hospital, and couldn't walk for a while, more than a month later she was still recovering.

Cat's can be dangerous, even if they seem cute and all that crap.

FlyinBryan
September 18, 2009, 11:09 PM
Regarding the trapping of the cat and taking it out to the country somewhere, that could very well be what happened to me. I live out in the country and I'm figuring someone dropped it off out here instead of taking care of the problem to begin with.

i will admit that there may be better ways to deal with a stray, but to be honest, trapping it and hauling it off is 100 dollars better than shoot, wound, and call a medic.

longbeard48
September 18, 2009, 11:12 PM
So, you are the guy who shot my cat! He came up missing here in North Mississippi a few days ago and a neighbor spotted him headed north! You are gonna hear from my lawyer, Mr. Mountainpharm!

ILikeLead
September 18, 2009, 11:20 PM
longbeard48 said "So, you are the guy who shot my cat! He came up missing here in North Mississippi a few days ago and a neighbor spotted him headed north! You are gonna hear from my lawyer, Mr. Mountainpharm!"

That's too funny!

gym
September 18, 2009, 11:24 PM
No advice call a lawyer

mec
September 18, 2009, 11:27 PM
we have a guy here that is shooting cats with his bow. fortunately, nobody has actually seen him do it and if he lays back, he will probably not have any problems. The tables have definately turned. Cat owners are not responsible for keepng their animals from being nuisances and the general public are not allowed to eliminate free roaming cats/dogs that become problems. It would be difficult to defend shooting an attacking dog since most of them will run away when you stamp your feet and according to their owners, none of them bite.

paintballdude902
September 18, 2009, 11:29 PM
first thing should have been a humane trap and taking it to the shelter second would be shoot it while alone

please what ever you dont ever let a cat loose in the woods they are a huge problem and really only have 1 maybe 2 predators 1 great horned owls and 2 coyotes they are a huge problem and will find food not starve at our barn they have gotten trap smart so we shoot at toss a .22lr does the job nicely

Z-Michigan
September 18, 2009, 11:40 PM
As it turns out, I was cited for animal cruelty and got a $100 fine. The citation is confidential as long as I pay the fine within 10 days, so that's about as good as I could have hoped for.

You're very lucky. In Michigan you'd probably be facing felony charges. Seriously.

I would concur with the other suggestion that you ask the mods to delete this thread. You would be best off to put this behind you. I don't think you or anyone are going to see this as an example of how to do things.

BTW I live in the country and am quite familiar with the problems of feral dogs and cats, but I also think it's essential to handle those problems humanely and legally.

doc2rn
September 18, 2009, 11:45 PM
you can bring it here to my place! The cats die off as fast as we buy em, for mouse control. The longest being 4 weeks, before he ate some bug that kills all the cats here.

EvanWilliams
September 18, 2009, 11:46 PM
I am shocked that RBernie hasn't shut this thread down.

OcelotZ3
September 18, 2009, 11:48 PM
Only a couple of folks have noted that after trapping you should take it to the humane society. I can't believe the number of people advising to drop it off "in the country". Classic "not MY problem anymore"!

As the OP noted, that's probably what caused this in the first place. Someone elses stupidity.

.38 Special
September 18, 2009, 11:50 PM
.38 Special said I've got bigger problems than animal control. Yeah, I think you're right! Even after 15 years I guess there are things to learn about our spouses and kids. I'm giving the kid a break this time -- we're not hunters so this was the first time he had seen anything like this.

I personally wouldn't have any problem shooting a cat in your situation, but my wife wouldn't understand and my kid would freak out. So I'd do it in secret. In fact, I have done such things in secret with our own terminally ill pets, rather than paying a vet to do it. Wife comes home, says "Did you do it?" and I say "Yes" and she says "I don't want to know the details." A price you pay for marrying a city gal.

FWIW, here in SoCal my brother got into some trouble with animal control for shooting rats with a pellet gun, about 20 years ago. Apparently a neighbor saw it and reported it as animal cruelty. Which just tends to support my view that Southern California is a wonderful place ruined by Southern Califnornians.

At any rate, glad to hear it didn't get too terribly ugly. What happened to the cat, BTW?

Deltaboy
September 18, 2009, 11:54 PM
Good Luck and next time use a scoped 22 rifle with HP and make it 1 shot 1 kill!

EvanWilliams
September 18, 2009, 11:56 PM
Was waiting for thread to be locked. Guess not, so here goes.
I once lived in a house out in the country on 62 acres. The Dadgum farmer next door would constantly have his pigs get out and run all over my yard. I frequently came home to a sow and piglets sitting on my porch and wandering around. Numerous phone calls to the farmer made no impact.
One day the sow chased my wife. Dead sow and one young pig later I made my last phone call. "Come get your dead pigs". Never happened again and no trouble with the law. This was in Alabama.
He also had an old horse wandering around my land that always got out. I would have shot the farmer before I ever shot the horse as the horse was pleasant and no trouble at all.

cyclopsshooter
September 18, 2009, 11:58 PM
I am shocked that RBernie hasn't shut this thread down.

+1..

qwert65
September 19, 2009, 12:12 AM
What happened to the cat, BTW?

I too am curious

FlyinBryan
September 19, 2009, 12:12 AM
Only a couple of folks have noted that after trapping you should take it to the humane society. I can't believe the number of people advising to drop it off "in the country". Classic "not MY problem anymore"!

As the OP noted, that's probably what caused this in the first place. Someone elses stupidity..

lol, pure genius!!!!

one guy one guy catches a problem cat and carries it out to the country, and one guy shoots it, wounds it, and calls 911, and you call the first guy stupid???

hello pot, i would like to introduce you to my good friend, mr. kettle.

jimmyraythomason
September 19, 2009, 12:21 AM
I don't know about N.C. but here in Alabama it is illegal to abandon (relocate)an animal. It is also illegal to shoot a dog or cat and is a felony under state law. The least you would be charged with here would be animal cruelty. Hopefully N.C. is a little more reasonable.

shotgunjoel
September 19, 2009, 12:27 AM
quote:
City people do this all the time. They will dump stray dogs and cats off in the country because they don't have the spine to deal with the problem.

Anyone in the city with enough spine to go chasing a cat around the block with a rifle should have that spine topped off with a brain as soon as possible.

agreed.

nwilliams
September 19, 2009, 12:39 AM
You made the wrong decision.

You shot a domestic animal because you found it irritating. In my book that is wrong and you face the consequences of your actions.

If it were my cat you shot I would attempt to prosecute.

Sorry that's just the way I feel.

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 12:39 AM
In NC It is a felony to steal a dog and a misdemeanor to shoot "someones dog" not a stray.Since dogs are better than cats IMHO I dont think you have any to worry about. Tell the family you are going to take it to the vet, finish it off and bury it. Tell animal control never mind. If it is still alive they might try to save it and make you pay vet bills.That would be a bummer.

9MMare
September 19, 2009, 12:41 AM
City people do this all the time. They will dump stray dogs and cats off in the country because they don't have the spine to deal with the problem. Anybody want to guess what farmers do when stray dogs show up eating their chickens?

SSS

Shoot, shovel, shut up

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 12:53 AM
nwilliams if your cat where on my land bothering me and I shot it .Iwould tell you to keep your cat at home. I think this thread should be made a sticky.

FlyinBryan
September 19, 2009, 01:01 AM
if i knew whos cat it was, i would not shoot it. (oh wait, i wouldnt shoot a cat anyway)

i have actually been amused at the amount of people in this thread who have been so terribly annoyed by cats.

i guess its understandable though with their unfortunate quirk of habitual and constant rodent control, and their intolerable tendency to bark all night long.

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 01:09 AM
Actually I proably wouldnt shoot someones cat without warning them first. I raise chickens and cats cant help themselves around the chicks. I keep my chickens on my land. I love this thread.

FlyinBryan
September 19, 2009, 01:11 AM
I love this thread.

lol, me too. i realize i probably shouldnt, but ive had fun with it.

i will stop now though, i promise.

Warhawk83
September 19, 2009, 01:12 AM
Bryan, feral cats carry disease,they also bite and scratch. The cats around here were chewing wires on one of our vehicles.I have two small boys, you bet your ass I'm shooting a feral cat.:neener:

FlyinBryan
September 19, 2009, 01:21 AM
you dont get bit by feral cats. you get bit by pet cats.

if you can run fast enough to catch a feral cat, do me ma favor: call jerry jones. we need another go to receiver, and you will be unstoppable.

tunnug
September 19, 2009, 01:29 AM
Consider using AK or AR instead of 10/22 next time.

You don't need a larger gun, practice your shooting for better shot placement, We used to work at a ranch and all our shoots for meat (putting animal down) from hogs on up were done with a .22

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 01:34 AM
Yea but if you use a 444 you dont have to bury them.

Mike J
September 19, 2009, 01:35 AM
I have had more problems with dogs than cats. I tend to graduate force by degrees first I run strays off by yelling running throwing rocks. Next if they persist in showing back up comes the wrist rocket. I use old nuts I have laying around for ammo. It may cause a bruise but will not penetrate cause infection etc. I have always figured if they show back up after getting hit in the butt with that its shoot time but one never has.

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 01:37 AM
I think its gonna make four pages. Love this post thank you mountainpharm

Mike J
September 19, 2009, 01:38 AM
I'd kill an animal before I'd drop it out on the side of the road, more humane in my book. I have never really considered cats dangerous but there was an elderly couple in Georgia killed by wild dogs not too long ago. I did know a guy that got bit by a wild cat-he wound up having to go through a bunch of rabies shots

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 01:50 AM
I had catscratch fever when I was a younger man maybe thats why I hate cats so much.

longdayjake
September 19, 2009, 01:50 AM
First off, I love cats and have grown up with them. Now that I am married and have kids I have no pets. My grandparents have a farm out in the country that gets overrun with cats. At times there can get to be 20-30 cats around the farm in different hiding areas. They can get loud and obnoxious at night just like raccoons and even worse. My grandma used to pay us $1 for every cat that we killed. I didn't have the stomach to do it but my cousins would come back to the house and have plenty of arcade money the next day. People would constantly drop cats off at the farm and the problem got worse and worse so please don't go dropping cats off in the country.

I think you should make your kid pay the $100 since the cruelty is his fault.

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 01:56 AM
Man I wish I could get paid to shoot cats. Heck if I could get paid to shoot cats Id pay the fine. Four pages I knew we could do it and only slight thread veer.

Avenger29
September 19, 2009, 01:58 AM
This is addressed to certain people in this thread:

Do you know how many graves I've dug because of people with the mindset of "Take it out to the country and let them deal with it"? Do you know how many starving or grievously wounded animals I've had to put out of their misery? Do you? All because some idiot thought the animal could fend for itself in the wild...I've been digging those graves since I was 12.

Throwing a domesticated animal out in the country doesn't do it any good. It'll either die a miserable slow death or go feral (dogs get in packs and are a great danger, for example).

Throwing 'em out in the country might let some sleep easy at night. All I know is that it sure as hell has caused some nightmares for me. The only comfort I have is I have always finished it quick as possible.

JWF III
September 19, 2009, 02:03 AM
trap the stray animal, and haul it to the country.
i know that does not help you now, but it might in the future.


D*** city folk!!! That's what started this whole problem.

I've lived in my current house for less than two years. In that time we've had 7 different stray cats show up. We're both cat lovers. So we allowed 2 to take up with us. Caught and gave away 2 kittens. The rest went to the local shelter.

If the city folk can't keep their pets, at least be responsible for them. Either put them down yourself, or take them (or even call them to come to you) to the shelter.

Feral cats are responsible for the degredation of quail and rabbit populations. And feral dogs reek havoc on turkey populations. And when packed up, dogs can kill deer, domestic animals and people.

Wyman

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 02:05 AM
Sounds like you need a 444. I think were gonna make 5 pages.

bigfatdave
September 19, 2009, 02:17 AM
Next time, get a humane trap, bait it with a can of tuna, and remove the critter to a remote location.To clarify, I was not implying release in the remote location ... I was pointing out that some locations, being more remote, are more suitable to gunshots or whatever humane method of dispatch you choose.

PT1911
September 19, 2009, 02:22 AM
To clarify, I was not implying release in the remote location ... I was pointing out that some locations, being more remote, are more suitable to gunshots or whatever humane method of dispatch you choose.

that would be the quary, the lake, the barn at papaw's, or the wood shed....

hogshead
September 19, 2009, 02:22 AM
Two more and we got 5 pages cause some poor fellow pulled a poor shot on a cat. Next time mountainpharm use a 444 a center mass will do fine. By the way what did happen to the cat?

bigfatdave
September 19, 2009, 02:27 AM
that would be the quary, the lake, the barn at papaw's, or the wood shed.... or the garage and a CB short

Tacbandit
September 19, 2009, 02:34 AM
Or a "hav-a-hart" trap and a can of tuna...

DR505
September 19, 2009, 02:40 AM
Yes, what is the final outcome for the cat? Did it recover?

FlyinBryan
September 19, 2009, 02:45 AM
its possible it was a momma cat. if so there could be a litter of kittens waiting for her to come home. if they are near your home you should know in a week or two unless winter arrives early, in which case it could be springtime before the wind blows the answer your way.

Avenger29
September 19, 2009, 02:48 AM
its possible it was a momma cat.

That's a bad situation to deal with...

Crash_Test_Dhimmi
September 19, 2009, 02:57 AM
I would have put on spongebob on tv for the kid, and gone out. If he hears the gunshot, tell him a car backfired while running over that annoying cat, that was scaring babies and chasing the easter bunny.

Next thread....
.223 Varmint Grenades VS 45 ACP for feral cats

ArfinGreebly
September 19, 2009, 03:10 AM
Okay, that's a wrap.

Thanks, everybody! Good work!

Same time tomorrow.

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