Reloading the 30-06


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bchris2146
September 20, 2009, 10:43 PM
Shooting a Remington 700 30-06 for whitetail deer. Using Hornady SST 165 gr. Anyone have any favorite loads to share? Anyone tried Reloader 22?

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Roadkill
September 20, 2009, 10:56 PM
I use 42g of IMR 4895 with a 180g soft point in a 1948 FN Mauser and a magnum rifle primer. First deer I hit with it knocked it completely off its legs. Welcome to the forum.

walker944
September 20, 2009, 11:40 PM
Hi bchris2146. Welcome to the gang. You may want to pose your question over in the Handloading and Reloading forum, which is under the Gear and Ammunition section on the home page. I'd bet you'll get a better response posting your questions there. Good luck, and again, welcome aboard. :)

paintballdude902
September 21, 2009, 12:37 AM
i second using 4895 i dont have my reloading books up here at school but thats what i use

i went ahead and developed my load the loaded about 75 rounds to take with me to school for hunting season

now this is my load start lower im not responsible for any harm or death for using my load mine was 47 gr of 4895 pushing a 168gr bthp and i think 47.5 for a 165gr ballistictip bt

ironhiide
September 21, 2009, 02:34 AM
My favorite 30-06 load is the Nosler 165gr Ballistic Tip - Green w/ 56.5gr of IMR4350, quick and accurate.

Kernel
September 21, 2009, 02:37 AM
I think RL22 would be way to slow for 165 gr bullets. RL17 would be a much better choice.

bchris2146
September 21, 2009, 07:43 AM
Thank you

Grumulkin
September 21, 2009, 07:56 AM
What works very well for me is pretty much any 165 or 168 gr. bullet over Varget. My expanding bullet of choice in my 30/06 is the Barnes TSX.

GooseGestapo
September 21, 2009, 08:16 AM
57.0gr of IMR4350 or 58.0gr of H4350 has been the "go too" powder for the 165's for most '06 shooters for decades.

If your gun won't get peak velocities and accuracy with these, there's something wrong with the gun.

The only reason I'd use a 4895 range of powder in this application would be for an auto-loader of the M1 Garand variety due to gas-port pressure issues.

A full case of RL22 (~61.0gr) wouldn't really be a bad load. Would get around 2,800fps (as does the same charge with a 180gr bullet). Could be accurate too. Just that I much prefer IMR4350 (or H) for the 165gr wt. in the '06. With H or IMR4350 it's possible with a 24" bbl to get 2,900fps, and I've seen some chrono data where some individual guns can get 3,000fps (26" bbls, usually).

Lee #2 manual has RL22 listed at 60.0gr w/165gr jacketed bullet @ 2,755fps and 51,300psi (60,000psi is max).

Now with a 150gr bullet; yeah, I like the 4064's, 4895's, and especially Win748 and RL15....... Over 3,100fps with the two latter powders.

willymike
September 21, 2009, 09:31 AM
57.6gr IMR 4350 for an extruded powder, and 55.0gr of H 414 have proven best in my rifle. You'll need to work up from minimum loading to safely determine what is best for yours.

jpwilly
September 21, 2009, 10:09 AM
This is really a Handloading and Reloading section question. Welcome to the THR forum.

30-06 likes medium to slow powders. I've used 55gr IMR 4350 behind 165gr at just under 2900fps and had good results. Your R22 should be good powder to try with heavy bullets IMO.

Standard disclaimers apply when rolling your own reduce down to starting loads expecially when getting ifo from the net! Use a reloading manual etc etc. because people make mistakes online and you could end up loosing more than just your rifle if you're not careful.

For example below is under min starting load...depending on the combination of brass, primer, etc this may work for them and not for you:

I use 42g of IMR 4895 with a 180g soft point in a 1948 FN Mauser and a magnum rifle primer. First deer I hit with it knocked it completely off its legs. Welcome to the forum.

Here's the load data from IMR for 4895:

180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR 4895 .308" 3.300" (min) 45.0gr 2555 49,500 PSI (max) 48.0gr 2680 56,800 PSI

bchris2146
September 21, 2009, 01:17 PM
Thanks. I've always liked 4350.

GaryL
September 21, 2009, 07:37 PM
I use 42g of IMR 4895 with a 180g soft point in a 1948 FN Mauser and a magnum rifle primer.That's very close to my load, except I use Nosler BTs and WLR primers. It's quite accurate.

Noveldoc
September 21, 2009, 11:53 PM
Thanks for the info on magnum primers. Just ordered some Wolf magnum LRs for my Garand.

I read they have the same charge as the regular, just a thicker jacket. Should be no problem with the strong hammer spring on my M 1.

Hope I haven't done anything dumb.

Tom

ants
September 22, 2009, 01:01 AM
Hi, Noveldoc. I read they have the same charge as the regular, just a thicker jacket. This has been going around since someone on 6mmBR posted it, but primer manufacturers' literature has made clear for years that Large Magnum pirmers definitely have a hotter flame and contain powdered metal (usually aluminum) that helps ignite large quanitities of difficult powder. This is especially useful in cases with huge capacity, or ball powders that are traditionally hard to light, or cartridges used in extremely cold environments.

Go to CCI home page and click the Education button. They have a good primer write up on this subject.

It is important to note that magnum primers have a hotter flame and hot metal blowing through your powder charge, so you understand that you need to drop the powder charge a little to compensate in non-magnum cartidges.

ants
September 22, 2009, 01:05 AM
I personally use the 180g load extensively.

From http://optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/ocw-load-recipes/4533485759
30-06 Springfield using IMR 4350
165 grain bullet, 57.5 grains
180 grain bullet, 56.0 grains

Start low and work up slowly to these loads, checking your rifle to make sure everything is OK. Once you reach these loads, start working with OAL or alter the powder charge no more than 0.5 grains up or down. This will fine tune them for your rifle.

ArchAngelCD
September 22, 2009, 04:56 AM
57.0gr-58.0gr H4350 depending on what your rifle likes...

Noveldoc
September 22, 2009, 06:44 PM
Thanks for magnum primer info. I use about 70% max load in my Garand anyway for shooting at range.

Ky Larry
September 22, 2009, 09:46 PM
58.0gr of Ramshot Hunter, WLR primer, C.O.L. 3.25 shoots well in my CZ-550 .30-06. YMMV.

KODB
September 24, 2009, 01:45 AM
All of my loads are both Garand and bolt gun safe since I end up shooting the same ammo out of my gas guns and my Model 70s.
For the 165SST's I use 47 gr of Varget or 4895. The OAL is the listed in the Hornady manual and I crimp right in the cannalure.
Regards,
Bob

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