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MJRW
October 31, 2003, 09:03 PM
Finally got my Milt Sparks Watch 6. Getting situated with the 1911 and well...where the heck do you guys tote them? I'm used to carrying a Glock 19 around 3:30 in a Galco NSA holster. When I put the 1911 there, it's like there is grip following me like a bridal train. I'd like to know the experience of others.

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NevadaPistolero
October 31, 2003, 09:13 PM
Well Im a big guy so its no problem. I wear mine right on the hip or a little forward of the hip area.

sm
October 31, 2003, 09:42 PM
4:00 strong
8:00 weak
IWB full size 1911

Standing Wolf
October 31, 2003, 09:45 PM
I don't carry my model 1911 very often because of the weight; when I do, however, it's in an I.W.B. holster from http://www.kramerleather.com at 4:00 on my strong side. It's reasonably comfortable when I stand, but somewhat uncomfortable when I sit in a chair or my car seat.

John Forsyth
October 31, 2003, 11:07 PM
I carry at about 3:30 in a Milt Sparks NP-2. One other thing, 95% of the time, it is a LW Colt Commander. The other 5%, a 5 in. Government model in a MS NP-1.

Aleko
October 31, 2003, 11:10 PM
I carry commander 1911 in Milt Sparks VM-II or Watch Six at ~ 4:30 o'clock. Very comfortable and hides well under plain T-shirt.

dsk
October 31, 2003, 11:11 PM
Small of back. Even a small guy like me can do it. You just need a decent belt and holster.

Tamara
October 31, 2003, 11:15 PM
4:00 strong-side in either a Galco Summer Comfort or a De Santis Inner Piece. If I roll it around to the 4:00 position rather than the 3:00-3:30, the butt lies flat against my back.

OF
November 1, 2003, 12:00 AM
3:00 - 4:00 in a KyTac Braveheart. Depends on what I'm wearing for a covering garment.

- Gabe

denfoote
November 1, 2003, 02:12 AM
Just forward of the hip bone in a Kramer belt scabbard or Predator IWB.

spacemanspiff
November 1, 2003, 02:38 AM
my big rear end makes it print heavily if i wear it past 3:00. so i have a IWB from rafters gunleather, that disappears at 3.

my tuckable from high noon works alright 3:00-4:30, it rides very low that way, but drawing it is no longer simple that way.

as far as weight is concerned, i balance it out with my double mag carrier from galcom at 8:00. without it, i cant go an hour without having low back stress.

Rob96
November 1, 2003, 05:17 AM
Colt 1911 in a Desantis Inner Piece IWB holster at 4 o'clock.

jercamp45
November 1, 2003, 07:24 AM
Officer's of ParaOrd LDA Companion. Same position for my Government and Commander(unless I carry more than one!). Carried this way through several Floridian summers and one hot Vegas summer(I do mean hot!!) Under a one size larger than normal T, Polo or button up shirt, it stays hidden quite nicely.
A good gunbelt is mandatory.
I'd add, avoid the rubber grips, they catch the shirt covering and can lead to printing of your heater.
Jercamp45

El Tejon
November 1, 2003, 08:22 AM
At 4 in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion.

Did you buy a Milt Sparks belt to go along with your holster???

Holster AND belt.

Soap
November 1, 2003, 08:44 AM
Like El Tejon, are you carrying it on a gun belt? That REALLY helps in keeping the pistol secure against the body. Also, I would try rolling it back more towards the 4 o' clock position.

Edward429451
November 1, 2003, 09:18 AM
Yeah, you gotta get the butt flat against your back. For me its at about 400-430 IWB in a Ted Blocker LFI rig, with a slight cant that puts the mainspring up more than horiz.

WhoKnowsWho
November 1, 2003, 09:59 AM
Hmm... I tend to carry at 3:00, maybe I should try 4:00 and see how that feels, I worry since I have so much flesh in the way everywhere though. :D

DMK
November 1, 2003, 04:34 PM
I carry either a Govt. model or my new Colt CCO in a Kydex CompTac C-T.A.C. (http://www.comp-tac.com/ct_ctac.html) holster right behind my strong side hip bone. I've adjusted the C-T.A.C. for maximum forward cant and it tucks right into my side.

With the light CCO I forget it's there, but the weight of the steel frame Govt. reminds me now and then.

Some wisdom that I learned here is a t-shirt under the gun goes a long way towards improving comfort.

Mil Novecientos Once
November 1, 2003, 05:11 PM
I carry at the 3.5 a Springield Armory 1911 model PX9109L in a Fist K1 IWB.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=329873

Dave T
November 2, 2003, 12:15 AM
A little over 3 weeks ago I got a Threat Solutions UCR (Kydex IWB) and can now comfortably conceal everything from a Kimber Ultra Carry to an all steel Government Model or the Wilson KZ-45. This holster is thin, flat, light weight and very fast.
I guess the position is what would be about 3:30, or a little behind the point of the hip. There's kind of a hollow there that the muzzle rests in so I don't get poked by it.

PCRCCW
November 2, 2003, 07:53 AM
Concealing a fullsize gun...1911, CZ75, 220 or whathaveyou?......at 4.00-4.30 it depends on your build, the holster design etc.......

No "Wonder Combination" is gonna work from person to person.....if youve got long arms and long legs= no torso length...a holster with more cant or ride ht differences will hide the same but not draw the same as it does for someone with short legs and arms...make sense?

The best advice I can offer is buy a cheap spring clip IWB holster and a cheap clear plastic protracter (every grocery store sells them).

Now, put your gun in it and get in front of a mirror. Put it at 4.00 to start with and play with cant/angles...see what hides the gun well and still allows you to draw the gun smoothly and fluently. If that doesnt work..move it back to 4.30..do the same thing...until you find the angle/location that hides the gun with your body type.

Have your cuter than you/half figure the angle with the cheap plastic protracter. Now sit down, stand up..twist, bend over, stand up, kneel down....do a somersalt if you can.....
See how the gun felt during the activity? ESPECIALLY SITTING.....

Now check it out again.....the gun probably changed its cant/angle slightly but youll still get the "general idea" of how it worked.

Take a picture of the "Perfect Location/angle" if you can and start your quest for "the holster that fits than angle and ride ht.

IMO, thats the purpose of the cheap nylon holsters with the weaker clips..they allow you to use them as a tool to find the one that you wont want to replace.

If you need further help...you can email me ANYTIME.

Shoot well.....................

Ky Larry
November 2, 2003, 06:26 PM
I carry a full size Kimber in a Gould and Goodrich IWB at 3:30. I'm 6'3" and weigh 250 lbs.

G33InMyPocket
November 2, 2003, 07:35 PM
I carry the Kimber Ultra Carry in a Desantis pocket holster . Guess i got a big pocket.:rolleyes:

WhoKnowsWho
November 3, 2003, 03:52 AM
G33InMyPocket: My shorts pocket is big enough to carry my Para Carry, but I don't like the swing bang swing bang with every step into my thigh. :D

And anyways, the Arizona winter is coming, so it's jeans time, and they don't have that big of a pocket.

MJRW
November 3, 2003, 10:01 AM
Update: I've found the position to get everything nice and concealable. It took awhile in that it is slightly forward of where I carried my G19. I feel this when I carry it, unlike my glock. Don't think it is a bad thing, just need to get used to it. Thanks.

dbracin
November 3, 2003, 11:06 AM
I carry my Kimber Compact in a WIld Bill Speed Scabbard.

Skunkabilly
November 3, 2003, 11:28 AM
Not a 1911 but my Beretta 92G was at the 1630-1700 position and found it was the only place that hid away well and didn't run into my belt loops.

Mute
November 3, 2003, 12:08 PM
Strong side, behind hip about 4:00 in either a Milt Sparks Roadrunner or Summer Special.

And I don't have any problems with it at all. Guess I'm used to a 1911.

jercamp45
November 3, 2003, 04:40 PM
After packing ye old slabsides for so long, I think my right cheek has an imprint of a 1911 on it. Even sliding a Government there seems strangely comfortable......
But I like the short officer's grip for less 'printing' challenges, though honestly it has never been an issue. And If life ever gets really interesting, really fast...them eight big rocks may come in handy...not to mentio the extra mags!!
Good advice PCRCCW might play with it myself......gonna need a new holster soon cause I will be treating myself to a 4inch barrel, Officer's sized pistol soon(Kimber Compact, Colt CCO) to celebrate the end of my two years of chasing crackheads.....to interact with NORMAL people again!!
Jercamp45

jimmyjoebob
November 4, 2003, 03:21 PM
I noticed that with my Watch Six, I had to move it a tad more forward because of the cant,than with my VM2 for my P7M8. I would guess that my Kimber/W6 rides about 3:00 maybe 3:15ish;)

Gary G23
November 5, 2003, 08:32 AM
4:00 strong
Blade-Tech belt holster

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