Long barrel 1911ish pistols?


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Noveldoc
September 26, 2009, 08:03 PM
Been thinking of getting another AMT Hardballer 7" barrel. Had a lotta fun with one for several years and the thing was sure accurate. Resold for a hefty profit also since AMT had gone under and there were no other 7" .45s.

Had problems though. The name is appropriate. It was a finicky eater and only liked RN bullets. I finally found the perfect OAL to load hard lead RN 230 grain over 4.5 grains of Bullseye and could afford to shoot it. Very steep feed ramp on the gun.

Also there was a problem with the stainless steel pieces galling together since they used the same exact metal for slide and frame. I used a light coat of thick silicone grease which I guess helped to prevent this. And I wondered with more heavy use if I saw some wear on the lock up lugs on the slide.

I punch paper a lot and really prefer a nice round hole from SWCs, though the flat nose lead RNs are also pretty good for this. So I really prefer an auto that will feed such stuff. My present main gun is an old Smith 4506-1 which truly will feed empty cases. Have gotten kinda spoiled here.

So is there a 7" 1911 type out there that is not such a finicky eater and does not have the metal issues?

Tom

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Jeffm223
September 26, 2009, 08:12 PM
I haven't seen any 7", but these folks make a nice 1911 with 6" barrel:

http://www.fusionfirearms.com/

I shot one at the range and it was definitely a nice pistola.

mhinagoya
September 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
Next AMT longslide I see, I'll buy it.
In the mean time, I just bought this from Bud's Gunshop. I think I bought the last one they had.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/mhinagoya/Crop2.jpg

If you can find one, these are very nice pistols. I have switched mine to a 'left side only' thumb safety, swapped out the mainspring housing internals, and done a trigger job. I will be ordering fiber optic sights from Dawson Precision next week.

Bill.

Irate Iguana
September 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
So is there a 7" 1911 type out there that is not such a finicky eater and does not have the metal issues?

That's something I've been looking into myself. I can't seem to find anybody that makes a 7" long slide. Perhaps someone can point us to a custom smith that makes a 7".

Noveldoc
September 28, 2009, 10:28 AM
Bill:

What brand is that longslide? Looks very nice.

Iguana:

Might just have to find a decent AMT and get a polish and port job to improve it's eating habits. I suspect also it would take a lead RN flat point okay if seated at the right OAL.

I like to punch paper and ain't nothin' like a smooth round hole in the target.

Ya know, I am not really sure that long barrel improves accuracy but it sure looks neat!

Tom

krs
September 28, 2009, 11:11 AM
It's SA and was $950.

There's been plenty of 6" barrel longslide guns but not many 7". The AMT gun is the only production gun I remember, but Clark used to have an option for 6" or 7", I'm pretty sure.

Jim Clark might have been the first to make long slide guns. He cut two to weld up one.


NovelDoc:Ya know, I am not really sure that long barrel improves accuracy but it sure looks neat!

It probably doesn't improve accuracy but it does increase velocity and that's the point of it for hunting. There are other cheaper ways to lengthen the sight radius on a 1911 to possibly improve the paper punching ability of a good shooter. For others it just makes their jiggling more unnerving.

Quack
September 28, 2009, 09:13 PM
can't think of anyone that makes a 7", maybe check with Tussey Custom, i think i saw them with a 7" in one of the gun magazines

Here's a longslide from Tussey
http://www.tusseycustom.com/images/ts21Mopt.jpg



i shoot a Wilson Combat longslide :)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_8422.jpg

Noveldoc
September 28, 2009, 11:39 PM
I am totally drooling, Quack.

Tom

Quack
September 29, 2009, 08:29 AM
thx.

just found the magazine, Tussey's are 6". the 7" in the mag was an AMT Hardballer

Jeffm223
September 29, 2009, 05:05 PM
"Ya know, I am not really sure that long barrel improves accuracy but it sure looks neat!

Tom"

The difference between a 5" and 7" barrel is not going to be too significant in a ballistic sense, but the increase in sight plane is a major factor in increased accuracy.

wally
September 29, 2009, 09:06 PM
The difference between a 5" and 7" barrel is not going to be too significant in a ballistic sense, but the increase in sight plane is a major factor in increased accuracy

Absolutely, and the older you get the better it is as your arms get shorter :)

--wally.

Jeffm223
September 29, 2009, 11:05 PM
If you want one, here ya go:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=226838

Decent price all things considered.

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