Will Ruger will make the LCP in 9mm?


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Runningman
September 29, 2009, 12:55 AM
Can't help but think a Ruger LCP in 9mm (slightly scaled up for strength) would sell very well.

I can't be the only one thinking this?

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anewconvert
September 29, 2009, 02:22 AM
Im sitting here look at my C75 Duty wishing that the LCP was in 9mm. Im trying to keep one train of ammunition so getting a .380 or .38 snub doesn't really appeal to me and neither does the price tag on the kahr.





BC

sidheshooter
September 29, 2009, 02:38 AM
I can't be the only one thinking this?

I wasn't thinking about this before, but I am now.

Sounds good to me....

MagnumDweeb
September 29, 2009, 09:20 AM
Thought about it from the beginning when the LCP came out. Granted I was looking at Kel-Tecs at the time. Still sticking with my snubnose .357s but I hada chance to shoot a Kahr MK9 I think it was, and it wasn't too bad, but it was small enough for go anywhere carry. The price though is where I go elsewhere.

.380 is hard to come by, 9mm is king of the commons right now, most new shooters are getting 9mms so there is naturally a larger supply of 9mm out there. An LCP 25% larger in 9mm, that could handle +p ammo for a steady diet and came in under $400 would be a market dominator in my opinion. I'd pick one up. Give me 6+1 and +P and I'll vote with my wallet. Just make sure it's lenght isn't more than a 642, and thickness is less than that of a 1911(keep it scale to a Tokarev), come out with a Crimson Trace laser grip that adds to concealibility, and you've got a nice little pocket popper.

dom1104
September 29, 2009, 09:54 AM
so you want a Kel-tec PF9 copy.

Seems like thats right up Rugers alley these days.

Spartacus451
September 29, 2009, 10:28 AM
Will Ruger make a PF9 like 9MM? I give it 50/50 odds. Will they make an LCP in 9MM? Almost definitely not. 9MM has significantly more juice and presents some real technical challenges when attempting to chamber it in a pistol as small and light as the LCP. Read up on the Rohrbaugh r9.

woad_yurt
September 29, 2009, 10:30 AM
dom1104:
Hah! Thank you.

MGW-Fla
September 29, 2009, 05:07 PM
I have both the Ruger LCP & the Kahr PM9. I have the Crimson Trace laser on both. Of course the LCP is much lighter & easier to conceal, but your giving up some firepower. I've thought about a 9mm LCP too. If it was just a larger LCP, I'd buy one. The LCP in .380 has virtually no recoil, whereas, with the PM9, you'd better pay attention. I can only imagine the PM40. The LCP has a much nicer looking finish than the KelTecs, and that includes their recent PF9. I was looking forward to seeing one & when I did, I was as unimpressed as when I see their .380. I realize that they are good shooting firearms, but all else being equal, they just look less finished.

I really like the size & feel of the Wilson ADP, it's seems similar in size to the Kahr, just a bit longer. It has a 3.9" barrel & is 16.6 oz empty, the Kahr PM9 has 3" barrel & is 14 oz empty. The ADP is still very concealable, and the fitted grips feel really nice. In spite of having a 10 round clip, the grip still feels thin & I have small hands. As soon as I picked one up it just felt right in my hands. Only after reading of some quality quirks & poor responses from Wilson have kept me from getting one. Hopefully, with Wilson's reputation for quality with their 1911s, that will all be worked out and I plan on keeping my eye on one in the future.

Mike J
September 29, 2009, 05:23 PM
When the SR-9 was first released there were some hints about a subcompact version of it. I don't think I'd want to try to shoot 9mm out of a gun the size of the LCP.

earlthegoat2
September 29, 2009, 06:11 PM
9mm LCP---no
PF-9 clone--maybe

I really doubt it though. KelTec sells about 10 P3ATs to every one PF-9 and Ruger usually only likes to get into things they know will be the maximum volume.

TXHORNS
September 29, 2009, 06:34 PM
If they made a copy of the PF-9 for $400 I would buy one. I actually bought a PF-9 but it wasnt reliable and felt so cheap I eventually sold it. If it felt better I may have sent it in to kel-tec for repair. It wasnt fun to shoot but I was capable of decent groups (get a grip sleeve!) and it could be carried easily. I would not be interested in trying to shoot an LCP size gun in 9mm - ouch.

I think the best bet currently imho is a Smith 642/442/340/etc or an LCR in 38. Great everywhere guns in a great caliber.

SteelyNirvana
September 29, 2009, 07:07 PM
That is a very good idea. I've been wanting an SP101 in 9mm and a LCR would fill that void perfectly.

MCgunner
September 29, 2009, 07:53 PM
I can't be the only one thinking this?

I've been real happy with my Kel Tec P11 for pocket carry for 13 years. I really couldn't care less what Ruger does in this regard. If I wanted slightly smaller/thinner, there's the PF9, or for a little more money, the Kahr PM9. For more money yet, the Rohrbaugh. I mean, it ain't like it's never been done before. :rolleyes:

PT1911
September 29, 2009, 08:01 PM
I can see ruger copying the PF-9.... what would it be called? hmmmmm


OH yeah... we stole your idea and will market it as our own making people think yours is inferior and charge more for our version of their gun though ours is the one that will be recalled soon after production....


that may be a bit to much writing on the side of the gun.

Marshall
September 29, 2009, 08:17 PM
I would buy one.

I don't understand all the upset Kel Tec people and why they take it so personal.

So what if another company makes a gun that's more desirable to many people? What the heck is wrong with that? It's just gun companies making guns, be glad they are!

GunNut
September 29, 2009, 08:23 PM
I heard from a gun store friend that Ruger's rep was saying that in 3 weeks they will be offering a 9mm "LCP" style pistol. It sounds like it will be very much like a PF9.

PT1911
September 29, 2009, 08:31 PM
It sounds like it will be very much like a PF9.

I will correct that for you

It sounds like it will be a PF9.

Whatever happened to originality?

ttheel
September 29, 2009, 08:36 PM
I would think it would be awfully difficult to make the LCP in 9mm. It would just seem to me that it would create way to much recoil for the sub 10 ounce design to take. I would never say never though. Who knows what they might come up with.

Tacbandit
September 29, 2009, 08:38 PM
Nope........But there's always the PF9.......

searcher451
September 29, 2009, 09:03 PM
Rather than speculate, why not ask the folks at Ruger if they have any plans?

Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.
Product Service Department
200 Ruger Road
Prescott, AZ 86301

Telephone: 928-778-6555 / Fax: 928-778-6633
(Monday through Friday 8:00am - 5:00pm MST)

markboss
September 29, 2009, 09:53 PM
I would have to say that Ruger did not even make a good copy with the lcp....
I own two P3at's and they have never failed, also own a PF9....it's been to the KT factory for updates, and I have been happy with its performance...

rust collector
September 29, 2009, 10:39 PM
PT 1911, you really got me with your "whatever happened to originality" line! Maybe your handle has nothing to do with a Taurus copy of the 1911 Colt, but I'm guessing you'll agree that some "copies" are better than the originals.

An acquaintance recently described firing a PF-9 as holding a pipe bomb. It's also ugly. If Ruger can make the combination of 9mm and light, concealable pistol work, the world will beat a path to their door.

The proof is in the pudding. Until then, it's all speculation.

PT1911
September 29, 2009, 10:47 PM
NO.. Nearly every company out there is producing their own 1911.. it is a mass produced design. I went with what is easily seen as one of the best values... The Taurus... BTW.. Taurus is one of few companies actually doing something different and not JUST copying existing designs.

Even the taurus 1911 is not just the generic milspec.. they added their own spin and did so well.. what did ruger do with the LCP... a smooth frame that many DONT like and a MANUAL slide stop...

OH and all after denying that they were copying the design in the first place.

johnnylaw53
September 30, 2009, 06:47 AM
why the hate for ruger? after all most firearms are copy from something eles at least to a point. I have always like rugers and would like some kind of small 9mm to replace my mod 642 that i carry now. Seem like all the small 9's have some kind of problems that also go for any small auto's at least I have never had luck with them which is why I keep going back to the j-frame. If ruger would make a small 9 I think I would give it a shot but hold on to the 642 until I was sure.


be safe

Ascot500
September 30, 2009, 08:33 AM
Not really an upscaled LCP, but a compact version of the SR9 would make a lot of sense.
In fact, call me an old fart, but I would pick a compact SR9 over the PF9 or Kahr just because I just like having a rounded top on the slide of my pistols.

To me the classic JMB designs just look right: 1911, 1922, 1903, HiPower...

dom1104
September 30, 2009, 08:41 AM
I heard from a gun store friend that Ruger's rep was saying that in 3 weeks they will be offering a 9mm "LCP" style pistol. It sounds like it will be very much like a PF9.


the LPF. lol.


"I heard from a gun store freind that he said he heard from..."


"My old buddy from college posted on his facebook that he heard at a swap meet...."

"HR45..."


sorry just joking around.

I do think they would be silly not to, and they do make good copies of Kel-Tec stuff. I would probably buy a "LPF"

hhb
September 30, 2009, 08:50 AM
All I ask is that Ruger gets the bugs out before it hits the shelves. I would think that Ruger would save it for the 2010 SHOT show as a "Show Stopper".

chuckusaret
September 30, 2009, 09:12 AM
Both of my last two purchases were recalled------I would hope they do a little more field testing on their next "NEW" gun. A 9mm "LCP" style pistol? Would it be another copy of a Kel Tec?

Tacbandit
September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM
Quote:
"An acquaintance recently described firing a PF-9 as holding a pipe bomb. It's also ugly. If Ruger can make the combination of 9mm and light, concealable pistol work, the world will beat a path to their door."

Not that bad...however no one will describe it as "pleasant to shoot", or "great gun for a day at the range". However, neither of those are the purpose for which it was designed. It fills the niche for a formidable caliber, which is light, thin, and easily concealable, in a semi-auto handgun...If that's what your looking for...there it is. That same niche could be filled by something more "comfortable"...yes...until then.......

The Lone Haranguer
September 30, 2009, 12:31 PM
A LCP-like gun in 9mm would have to be scaled up in size slightly, probably to the size of the already existing Kahr PM9.

CoRoMo
September 30, 2009, 12:44 PM
Would I buy a 9mm version of the LCP... nope.
Would I buy a Ruger version of the PF9... nope.
Would I buy a Ruger version of the P11... I think so.

My P11 has served as my EDC perfectly for a long time now. I keep trying to find a replacement that isn't bigger, lower capacity, smaller caliber, or heavier weight, but nothing like that exists anywhere, at all, period. But if Ruger knocked off the P11, I guess it'd be like buying a new P11 to me, rather than buying a different gun.

Dallas Jack
September 30, 2009, 09:05 PM
A 9mm the size of a LCP would have one heck of a recoil spring.:eek:

People asked the same question about the P3AT. What they got was the PF9. Not a bad answer if you ask me.
Dallas Jack

ttheel
September 30, 2009, 10:21 PM
A LCP-like gun in 9mm would have to be scaled up in size slightly, probably to the size of the already existing Kahr PM9.

nail on head

PT1911
September 30, 2009, 10:31 PM
I did handle the Taurus "slim" 709 today... I Liked it.. I wonder how it stands up to the PF9... it has a lot of features I like... I will have to make a note to keep an eye on its reviews.

makarovnik
October 1, 2009, 04:54 PM
Ouch!

gwlammers
October 3, 2009, 08:04 AM
Ruger unveiled the LCP at the 2008 Shot Show and the LCR at the 2009 Shot Show. If they have something new up their sleeve, I think we will need to wait for the 2010 Shot Show (January?).

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