Glock 17 or Beretta 92FS


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Warhawk83
October 1, 2009, 12:54 PM
In about 6 months I will be replacing my sigma with one of these guns. I have dry fired a 17 and was amazed with the trigger,the gun felt a little thick in my hand and honestly I think glocks are fugly. I love my Beretta .22, and I love the look of the 92FS and I realize our boys in Iraq and Afghanistan carry it as the M9. Either one will be better than the Sigma,so which would you choose and why?

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Avenger29
October 1, 2009, 01:02 PM
The 17 is light, important if you are carrying. I CCW'ed one for a while.

The Beretta 92 is a wonderful handgun, but many would rather not CCW one.

I had and sold a Glock 17 because I did NOT like shooting it. I figure that if you handle the Sigma .40 just fine, then, like most people, you won't have a problem with shooting the Glock 17.

You should rent or borrow and shoot both of them before ultimately deciding- it's a very personal choice.

2ndamd
October 1, 2009, 01:07 PM
The trigger on the sigma is really bad. So, the 17 seems fine to you. But, shoot that sweet 92 much and then feel the G17. You'll wonder what you were thinking.

The Beretta is a better handgun IMHO. Glocks are great guns! I love how easy it is to fix and maintain them. But, the 92 feels so much better in my hand and the SA trigger is crisp.

Both are great guns. But, I'll take Beretta over Glock.

eatont9999
October 1, 2009, 02:08 PM
I own a 92FS Compact. The grip is a little thick, but I am really short so my hands are not big. I have never shot a Glock, so I can't say much about them. I still love the 92FS, and shoot/carry it, but it does feel big. My hands fit perfectly around a 1911, but that is because they are usually single stack mags.
+1 to trying both out. Even if you can't shoot them, just see which one feels better and you have a good grip on.

possum
October 1, 2009, 02:27 PM
i personally don't like da/sa guns, and i like striker fired so my first choice would be the glock. also the glock is gonna be alot closer to what you are used too with the sigma than the 92 would be. i say go glock and don't look back.

Warhawk83
October 1, 2009, 02:39 PM
If it helps...I don't like the Sigma. I did the one time I shot it well but after that if you go too long in between range trips you have to learn the trigger all over again because it is so stiff.

GRIZ22
October 1, 2009, 02:50 PM
Either is good. I'd pick the Glock.

DougDubya
October 1, 2009, 03:01 PM
I love these either/or questions.

Glock 17's are exceedingly nice.
Berettas are beautiful and refined, and it takes a lot of work to bust the slide off of one (those six slide separations in the Navy came from hotrodding 9mm rounds to squeeze all the "stopping power" out of 115 grains as the SEALS could get via handloading).

One is a tool with no asthetics.
One is both a tool and a sublime work of art.

Both can safely be carried chamber hot while ready to go at a pull of the trigger.
The Beretta can be turned off to prevent usage by unauthorized users AS AN OPTION.

The Glock has a consistent trigger.
The Beretta has a smooth DA and a very crisp single action. (And I don't consider DA/SA a detriment.)

The Glock is square.
The Beretta is fatter in the slide and the butt, and longer.

If only for the looks, not minding DA/SA or an off switch on the slide, and feeling the difference between 16 and 18 9mm rounds is minimal, I'll take the 92FS, but only by a skosh.

Brutz
October 1, 2009, 03:14 PM
I hate glocks mainly because they are huge because I have little tiny girly hands and because they are FUGLY! I'm sure they are a great tool though.

CWL
October 1, 2009, 03:17 PM
Neither one fits my hands.

If forced to, I can shoot a G17 better than a M92fs, but still wouldn't choose either of them (although I own both for collection purposes)

You should make your own choice based on your personal experiences in handling & shooting them, not put it up to the internet.

LancerMW
October 1, 2009, 04:33 PM
G17, although i own and like my 92fs, it comes down to DA/SA and i dislike that system.

Warhawk83
October 1, 2009, 04:40 PM
CWL, I'm not gonna leave it up to the internet. I wanted opinions and experiences if there were any. Most people on here have much more experience than me, so I figured they would deliver relevant information, and they have.

Coltman 77
October 1, 2009, 04:54 PM
Beretta 92 FS. :D

Great ergos, accurate, reliable.

Zeabed
October 1, 2009, 04:57 PM
I once owned a G17 and I keep a 92FS for HD. I wouldn't CCW either of them as they're too big, for CCW I have a G19 and a G30, both of which I love. But for HD I prefer the Beretta. I've practiced extensively with it and found it ergonomically correct for my hands, reliable and accurate. Never had any ammo problems with it, but should that ever happen, a jam will be easier for me to clear in the Beretta imo. The G30, however, also doubles as my HD night gun and has a Streamlight TLR-1 Tactical Illuminator Flashlight attached.

Artiz
October 1, 2009, 05:24 PM
Two completely different animals.

David E
October 1, 2009, 05:54 PM
Glock is easier to master. Not that you can't master the Beretta, but it'll take longer.

The Sigma was a "point gun, pull trigger," as is the Glock. The Beretta requires you to decock if you're done shooting, but ammo remains in the gun, adding a step. (a step that even "trained" cops have forgotten to do)

Glock is simple and has many more after-market options, if that matters.

In a good holster, neither is "too big" to carry, altho the Beretta certainly pushes that envelope.

SwampWolf
October 1, 2009, 07:54 PM
I much prefer the traditional da/sa action over striker-fired pistols. So, for me at least, it's the 92, hands down.

j-easy
October 1, 2009, 07:56 PM
I voted for the Beretta, I just feels so much nicer in my hands

HippieMagic
October 1, 2009, 08:37 PM
Try a 19 as well... not a huge difference but it is a little smaller. My friend really prefers it over his sigma. My 19 kind of makes me grip it perfectly every time without thinking and I love the way it shoots and feels. You may like it as well. I was going to get a 19 or 92FS and was leaning towards the beretta until I found a new 19 for $350 lol.

AKElroy
October 1, 2009, 08:50 PM
I would not buy either without shooting a CZ 75 / 85. My new 85 is the best shooting autoloader I own. I respect the Glock, & it would be my choice of the two if I were forced to do battle. Since I am on a metal appreciation tour & unlikely to be engaged in battle, and being further constrained by the choices in the poll, I would take the Beretta.

scf4003
October 1, 2009, 08:54 PM
Beretta 92 .. my favorite autoloader ...

Broken11b
October 1, 2009, 09:11 PM
well, you're not really loosing on either choice, they're both superb pistols. I prefer the Glock, It has a consistent trigger pull. With the Beretta i had to learn two different trigger pulls, it's nothing that cant be overcome with training and practice, but i like the consistency. And with the glock, there is no awkward slide mounted saftey.
For simplicity, go with glock
For art, go with the beretta

Red State
October 1, 2009, 09:18 PM
I have shot both guns and I much prefer the Beretta. I like the sights better, and I like the trigger SO MUCH better.

With a slim set of $12 Hogue grips, the Beretta has a great feel in the hand - almost like I was born with it attached.

People are right, your personal preference may be different than ours, and you should pick based on what feels good to you. Either gun is a good value and will give you reliable service for many, many years.

bestseller92
October 1, 2009, 09:29 PM
The Glock is the best 9mm auto ever made.

theotherwaldo
October 1, 2009, 09:30 PM
I'd go Glock for shooting in stressful conditions and Beretta for punching paper.

Every step that you don't have to remember is a potential life-saver.

(I opted for a G27.)

PCFlorida
October 1, 2009, 09:50 PM
I have both. I haven't shot the Beretta in years but the Glock goes to the range with me all the time. The Beretta is a fine gun, but I just like the Glock better.

mongo4567
October 1, 2009, 11:38 PM
I have both and like them both a lot. They have been equally reliable, don't ever recall a failure in either. I voted for the Beretta because I prefer the DA/SA trigger. That said, I would carry something smaller or go with a 1911.

David E
October 2, 2009, 12:31 AM
I'm surprised.......shocked, even that the Beretta has received so many votes.

The Glock is the superior and more durable design. The worst thing about a Glock for many people is that they point high. This can be overcome with practice and handling.

I understand that Glock is coming out with interchangeable back straps in 2010.......after everyone else has already done so, as per usual.

DougDubya
October 2, 2009, 12:50 AM
I'm surprised.......shocked, even that the Beretta has received so many votes.

The Glock is the superior and more durable design. The worst thing about a Glock for many people is that they point high. This can be overcome with practice and handling.

I understand that Glock is coming out with interchangeable back straps in 2010.......after everyone else has already done so, as per usual.
Quality earns its following. I can see that the Glock is more durable, but what else is superior in any way other than subjective?

Colton White
October 2, 2009, 05:11 AM
I have the 92fs A1 and call me the devil himself but i just love that long ridiculous traditional double action trigger pull lol

They are both incredible handguns buy whichever feels best in your hands and never look back.

JoeSlomo
October 2, 2009, 07:14 AM
My experiences with the burrito M9 over the past 12 years or so have been as follows...

1. Slide breakage.
2. Multiple locking block breakages.
3. Trigger spring breakage.
4. Safety / decocker pin failure.
5. Failure to fires due to environmental conditions, ie sand / mud in the trigger.

Some of these pistols have failed after having fired a gojillion rounds. Others have been "arms room queens" that have failed because...well, no excuse IMO.

The burrito is probably a nice gun for city use / low round count use, however, I would most certainly rather carry a glock, and would NEVER buy a berretta.

Of the rifles and pistols I have used extensively for work, the burrito is the ONLY one that has been a consistant "breaker", which is why it is not used by those that actually train extensively, and may actually need, a pistol.

If your choices are beretta and glock, get the glock...

Dwrice
October 2, 2009, 08:03 AM
I used the M9 (92F) when I was in the Army and did not like firing it much. It is a very large gun for the 9mm round it fires. I have about normal size hands and it did not fit well in my hand. I like my Glock so much I bought it back when my Department changed weapons. I would find a place where you can fire both and see which works for you. The only thing that really matters is that you are comfortable with the weapon to hit what you are shooting at consistently.

spyderdude
October 2, 2009, 08:23 AM
I own and enjoy both pistols, but if it came down to choosing one, it would be the Glock 17. You get more firepower in a lighter package, and there are available 33 round FACTORY magazines that work with all the 9mm Glocks. Good luck finding a factory Beretta super hi-cap mag because I don't think they exist. This is assuming you don't live in a state like California that bans the possession of what I like to call the standard capacity magazines for Glocks.

Another downside to the Beretta is the inability to change sights because the front sight is part of the slide. However both pistols are very fun to shoot, and I really like the DA/SA trigger on the Beretta. I'll agree that the 92FS/M9 looks better too!

sanerkeki
October 2, 2009, 09:05 AM
I have both of them and I just like the 92 better. Shoots smoother and is nicer to handle. As far as accuracy they are both pretty much the same.

bigbob76
October 2, 2009, 09:05 AM
Glock, for simplicity and consistency. Nothing to remember except finger off trigger when done shooting. Same trigger pull every time.

glockman19
October 2, 2009, 12:54 PM
First off I'm a Glock Guy. I have a 19 & 26. I bought a Beretta 92FS INOX as my full size 9mm. Why? Because it's a beautiful looking gun, shoots 1/2" low to the right @ 25 yards.

I will get a Glock 17 and if I had it to do all over would get one over the Beretta.

I vote for the Glock 17

psyopspec
October 2, 2009, 12:57 PM
Which fits your hand better?

Which points more naturally for you?

What's your preference on a hammer?

What's your preference on a manual safety?

What's your preference on DA/SA vs. striker fired?

Your thread ain't about what I want - I ain't gonna be at your gun fight.

swampboy
October 2, 2009, 01:47 PM
I'll second the Glock 19. Just enough smaller than the 17 to matter when carrying and will do about anything the 17 will do.

Glocks ARE Fugly but after shooting my newly acquired G19, it's REALLY starting to grow on me.

ijosef
October 2, 2009, 01:54 PM
Glock 17. I'm picking up my new one this Sunday. I held both a 19 and a 17 and found that the 17 was a much better fit for my hand.

HippieMagic
October 2, 2009, 02:06 PM
I also like how there is no question about when the Glock will fire... I haven't shot the Beretta but I have heard a lot of hit and miss things about it. Some people love them while others despise them mostly for reliability. I wanted a simple gun and went with the G19. It may not look the best but it has a very simple appeal to it... It won't win awards for it's amazing styling but since when does a gun's looks really matter? If you want it to look pretty buy a bedazzler and make it sparkle.

I am definitely not a Glock fanboy... to me a gun is a gun and as long as it fires I am happy with it. I bought a Glock as my first because it was cheap(in my case) and reliable. I couldn't ask for a better first handgun. It points naturally and is pretty accurate. I like the "stop before the bang" feeling the trigger has. If shooting slow it lets me pull to that point, line up, and take the shot... It feels natural to me and as long as it feels the same to you then you should be happy with it. Out of all the guns I have shot over the years I actually prefer the G19 because of the way it feels in my hand. I still need to buy a 1911 though... in time...

David E
October 2, 2009, 05:59 PM
Quality earns its following. I can see that the Glock is more durable, but what else is superior in any way other than subjective?

Durability in a firearm used for defense is no small thing. A few years ago, Chuck Taylor wrote an article about how "durable" the Beretta was. Then he cited the plethora of parts breakage he'd encountered within 20,000 rds......and he STILL maintained how "durable" it was.

The beauty of the Glock is........it's a tool, not a "piece of art" that some seem to think the Beretta is. The Glock simply does what it's designed to do and does it well, for a long time.

I don't care for the grip angle on the Glock. Supposedly, in 2010, they will introduce an interchangeable backstrap. Yeah, already !

I like my Beretta fine and it points well for me, but I'll never carry it for serious purposes. BTW, www.CDNNSports.com had 20 rd Mec-Gar mags for the Beretta and they work fine.

halfded
October 2, 2009, 06:14 PM
Fine Italian lines and curves, or a BLOCK of plastic? I lost my legos long ago, but Italian women will always be fine as hell!!

DougDubya
October 2, 2009, 07:11 PM
Durability in a firearm used for defense is no small thing. A few years ago, Chuck Taylor wrote an article about how "durable" the Beretta was. Then he cited the plethora of parts breakage he'd encountered within 20,000 rds......and he STILL maintained how "durable" it was.

Given that this is the same man who wrote reviews on firearms he never even fired, and willfully misrepresented spent rounds as one caliber, not their original caliber, and that they were pulled from dead bodies, I generally take Taylor's "evidence" with several grains of salt, a twist of lime and a shot of tequila.

I like my Beretta fine and it points well for me, but I'll never carry it for serious purposes. BTW, www.CDNNSports.com had 20 rd Mec-Gar mags for the Beretta and they work fine.

Again, it's a set of choices. I'm not saying the Glock 17 is EVER going to be a wrong answer at all.

Preferences were asked for, and preferences were given. If it were a question between the Glock 19 and the Beretta, I'd go to the 19 in a heartbeat - but again, that's a matter of aesthetics and what I consider to be size and shape efficiency.

David E
October 3, 2009, 05:34 PM
Interesting comments on Taylor, I'd not heard those statements before.

That said, I also take issue with him on certain things.

And that article may have been written by Ken Hackathorn, I don't remember with 100% accuracy.

Yes, preferences were asked for, but superior design should (but not always does) trump mere "preference."

Once Glock addresses their backstrap issue, it'll be the near perfect gun.

E357
October 3, 2009, 09:27 PM
I've got both a Glock 19 and a Beretta 92FS. Both are dead nuts reliable. I think the G19 works better as a carry piece and the Beretta as a home defense weapon. The Beretta IMHO has the best safety features of any semi-auto.

J.Scott
October 3, 2009, 09:58 PM
A good thing about the Glock is the trigger pull is the same for all shots. Also, the G17 is very durable, easy to dissasemble and clean, mags are cheap and plentiful, it will digest most any ammo, and these days you never know what's available, and should you decide to sell it, very easy sell. Much more popular around me than a 92. I'm not a big Glock guy, but I do dig the tupperware. So my vote is Glock. I have to say, though, should you decide to go Glock, check out the 19, I think its a better choice than the 17.

okiewita40
October 3, 2009, 10:09 PM
Having carried and shot both of them either will do the job. I currently carry a Glock 17 for work. They are lighter than the 92's. Plus i you have asigma now most anything will have a lighter trigger. That being said you can always install a 3.5 lb disconnect in the glock. plus you can take apart a glock with one tool.

Enachos
October 4, 2009, 01:47 PM
I've shot my buddies Glock 17 numerous times and I can tell ya glock is the way to go. Personally I prefer .40 S&W so i went and got me a G27. Great gun and it packs a hell of a punch. I would suggest a Glock 23 or 27 for concealed carry. But if it's really a 9mm you want (or need) then go with the Glock 17 or 19.

HexHead
October 4, 2009, 03:16 PM
I voted for the G17, but only because the Glock 19 wasn't an option. ;)

Get a G19, you won't regret it.

theotts
October 4, 2009, 04:35 PM
New here, but I've owned both weapons in question, so thought I'd chime in.

Both are terrific handguns IMO. If you thought the Glock was a little thick, the Beretta may be too large to handle comfortably. The grip is very thick compared with most other autoloaders. I ended up selling mine because of this. I went with the Glock as I intend to compete and parts and accessories are plentiful and inexpensive. Otherwise, I really thought it was an ugly gun. I preferred steel, exposed hammers, and wood stocks on a handgun. Now, after shooting it extensively the last 6 months, I absolutely LOVE the Glock. Here are just a few observations of each handgun:

Beretta 92:

Nice appearance
Accurate
Reliable (in my experience)
Large grip may be better suited for someone with large hands (a thinner grip is available from an aftermarket vendor that I don't recall at the moment)
SA trigger easier to shoot accurately, smooth DA when necessary
Limited sight options due to front sight integral with frame
Safety/Decocker on slide can be difficult to reach in firing position
Mine was very loud (due to open slide design)
Generally more expensive than the Glock
Requires more frequent cleaning/oiling to function properly

Glock 17:

Ugly! (IMO)
Accurate
Extremely reliable
Abundance of available accessories/modifications
DA trigger more difficult to master than SA mode on Beretta (but still OK, and numerous trigger modifications are available)
No external safety (negative or positive depending on your viewpoint)
Functions even when dirty, requires little lubrication
Much easier to carry in a concealed fashion (IMO)
Stock sights suck, but numerous aftermarket options are available


I really felt the Glock didn't have much "character", and I wasn't really excited to purchase one. I just felt it was the best option for me to begin practical shooting competition with. I didn't like that it didn't have an external safety, but I quickly became comfortable with this. I really didn't like polymer, striker-fired guns at all, but the Glock has made me a convert. Between these 2 options, I come down solidly on the side of the Glock. However, if Glock is on your list, I'd highly recommend you also check out the Smith & Wesson M&P and Springfield XDm. I enjoyed shooting each of these more than the Glock, but again went the Glock route due to availability of parts and accessories. Hope some of this information helps.

surplusfan
October 4, 2009, 07:05 PM
Don't have experience with the Beretta, but have G17 and like it a lot. If it's comfortable to hold and shoot, they're light, reliable, and as easy to maintain as it gets. I can definitely recommend the G17.

Erik M
October 4, 2009, 07:20 PM
Glocks are ugly. +1 for the 92. Ive never owned a glock but I have fired a friends 17 & 19. They both felt top heavy to me. I saw no difference in accuracy between the two at 25 feet, but I am by no means nothing more than an amature.

gunnutery
October 5, 2009, 12:45 AM
Well, I voted for the Beretta. I have a Glock 22 and a Beretta 92fs Brigadier. I really like them both and carry my Glock on duty. While I recomend both, for some reason I chose the Beretta in the poll. Looks definately go to the Beretta, but simplicity goes to the Glock. It really depends on your roll for the gun. If it's mainly just for shooting at the range, go with the Beretta (it's great for HD too but there's more controls ie safety, decock and SA/DA). If it's roll is SD or HD the Glock is probably easier to conceal and no extra controls and different actions to worry about, one tigger pull is the same as the rest.

I know you will enjoy whatever you decide to buy.

SJ78
October 5, 2009, 01:54 AM
I would go with the Beretta . Imo it's a nicer looking gun and has a smoother
feeling to it . The Glock 17 is lighter so it recoils a touch more . Not that any 9mm had bad recoil but the Beretta just feels nicer . Also i have seen quite a few Glocks jam . Some due to limp wristing but the 92 will not do that even if done on purpose . Imo the Beretta is just a nicer handgun

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