[THE DARK KNIGHT]

Well a while back I came here asking about how to become a better handgun shooter. I've since watched a lot of the videos people linked me to or tips they gave, an ~500 rounds later I see a decent improvement. Still not the greatest but hey. Big thanks to all who have helped so far. Here's the last 12 rounds of last session. It was 4 rounds at 10 yds, 4 rounds at 18 yds, and 4 rounds at 25 yards with my S&W 686.

Couple questions.

I see I nailed one dead on, the other 11 made 2 groups among the rounds, one high, one left. What caused me to do that?

What other resources can I look into? Are there any good intermediate pistol classes in NJ? I'm in Union County.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=106548&stc=1&d=1254618204

[Starter52]

I would try putting an orange target dot in the center of the target as an aiming point.

I have to say, DK, that is some pretty decent shooting. I've been to ranges where anyone who can hit the ten at 25 yards would be giving lessons.

[Jim K]

Aside from a change of ammunition, one possible cause for a change of point of impact with a handgun is a change of grip. Changing from single action to double can also change the POI since the grip will change. I assume you are not resting the gun on anything, but allowing the butt or barrel to rest on a sandbag or bench can cause a different POI from a handhold, or resting the wrists.

Jim

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

Aside from a change of ammunition, one possible cause for a change of point of impact with a handgun is a change of grip. Changing from single action to double can also change the POI since the grip will change. I assume you are not resting the gun on anything, but allowing the butt or barrel to rest on a sandbag or bench can cause a different POI from a handhold, or resting the wrists.


No, there is no change of grips, and the gun is not resting on anything, I am standing up and holding it with 2 hands. Also the ammo is .38 special 158gr LSWC ammo for all shots.

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

No one?

[TimM]

If you are a right handed shooter - Diagnosis Target (righty) (http://www.piedmontnrainstructors.com/resources/CorrectionChartRight.pdf)

If you are a left handed shooter - Diagnosis Target (lefty) (http://www.piedmontnrainstructors.com/resources/CorrectionChartLeft.pdf)

[HuntAndFish]

What caused me to do that?


You obviously didn't do something consistently but it's very difficult to say what it was without watching you shoot. It could have been something as simple as not holding the same sight picture at the different ranges you shot. I agree that an orange aiming point on the target may help. If you are bullseye shooting are you paying attention to your breathing and only shooting after you exhale each time? Are you paying attention to your natural point of aim at 25 yards and setting up correctly?

Depending on what discipline you want to improve in, I would say that is acceptable combat handgun shooting. If you can consistently cover your group with your outstretched hand at 25 yards, then you already have the fundamentals covered and you should be working to increase your speed between shots.