[Elquatro]

I recently shot a remmington 700 sps .308 and loved it. I was just wondering if anyone knew what the same rifle would be from Savage arms.

[R.W.Dale]

Prolly a 10FP would make for the closest approximation to the SPS in 308win

[chevyforlife21]

savage makes great bolt guns very accurate at a cheaper price

[rangerruck]

http://www.savagearms.com/12model_longrange_precisisionvarminter.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/16fhss.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/11fhns.htm

these seem to be pretty close, not sure on the bbl profile though.

[hometheaterman]

IMO and many others Savage is the way to go over a Remington.

[R.W.Dale]

http://www.savagearms.com/12model_longrange_precisisionvarminter.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/16fhss.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/11fhns.htm

these seem to be pretty close, not sure on the bbl profile though.

With regards to your top choice

I would make the comparison that the LRPV you link to is comparable or superior to Remington top of the line 5R milspec. Both of which are a BMW 7 series to the SPS, 10FP's Kia Rio

[rangerruck]

... Kia rio... :D

[dubbleA]

I have been wringing out a $350 Rem SPS V and a $700 Savage 10FP for about a month now. The SPS has a crappy stock, crappy X Mark Pro trigger and shoots circles around the better stocked and accutrigger Savage.

The internets has built up the Savage but in a personal head to head it fails in comparison to the Remington. The 700 came out of the box shooting, the Savage on the other hand has been through many many handload variations but to no avail.

[P.B.Walsh]

I think the X-Mark Pro trigger is fantastic!! :)

[hometheaterman]

Until the bolt handle breaks off the 700 or one of Remingtons common problems that got missed in quality control happens. I don't disagree that Remingtons can be accurate but the quality just doesn't seem to be there in a lot of their stuff. I've had bad experiences with newer Remington stuff as well as several on here and some people I know in person.

[chevyforlife21]

my savage shoots the same bullet hole at 100 yards its just a 111 .243 350 dollar gun. and thats with factory ammo.

[P.B.Walsh]

They are both equal, nuff' said. This is like asking, whats better, Chevy or Ford?

[Action_Can_Do]

Well, they're not really equal. Savage is quite a bit cheaper than Remington. Remington doesn't seem to deliver anything extra for the extra money.

[P.B.Walsh]

Ok then a Savage IS BETTER FOR THE MONEY, I'll admit that, but if money wasn't an issue (around $1500 budget), I think the Remington 700 beats it. For under $1000, ok the Savage probally wins. :)

[wrs840]

Ford. Mary Ann. Thin crust. Busch Light.

Les

[Beelzy]

Remington..........FTW!

[NCsmitty]

Both brands can produce some good shooting guns, but the Remington is a prettier action. ;)


NCsmitty

[wyohome]

Buy an old Rem 788 and fit it with a nice stock and a little trigger work.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/IMGP1366.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/IMGP1365.jpg

[hometheaterman]

That rifles is beautiful if I must say so myself.

[wyohome]

Thanks. It shoots as well as I can, that is to say I can do as well with that as I do with my Kimber Longmaster Classic. A better rifleman might shoot the Kimber better however.

[gearheadpyro]

Very sharp looking rifle there, wyohome. I am going to have to agree with the statement that under around 1000 savage wins, but over that I'll take a remmy. My personal choice thus far was actually to buy a Rem 700 SPS Varmint mostly for the action, and build it myself. I've got this rifle shooting very well now (.5 - .75 moa depending on me). Now that I have this gun doing well my next step is to get a surgeon action and bartlien barrel.

[ArmedBear]

Hard to believe I'm looking at a Remington, there, and that is the highest of compliments.:)

WRT Savage vs. Remington, well, I'd get the Savage as a hunting rifle, not the Remington. The Remingtons are accurate. That's about the end of the story, and for hunting, it's necessary but not sufficient.

For varmints or targets, I think I'd try to build, not buy.

[benzy2]

It seems in general that a factory heavy barrel Savage will shoot better than a factory heavy barrel Remington of equal price. There are a few advantages to the Savage design in budget minded mass produced rifles. The floating bolt head is cheaper to produce accurately and as such on the same budget will tend to lock up evenly. The barrel mounting is a cheap and easy system on the Savage again saving money while allowing a precise headspace. I do think the Remington 700 action has a better design it takes more money to utilize that design. So when you aren't on an unlimited budget to true everything up the Savage manufacturing process wins.

I have seen a lot of Savage rifles shoot under 1/2" groups at 100 yards. They seem to really be good shooters. A few aren't and there will always be someone who claims the entire line stinks because they had one or two that didn't shoot amazing but the happy fans seem to far outweigh those disappointed. With my money I'll go Savage.

[TexasPatriot.308]

the Savage 12FV is hard to beat, got one in .308, shoot dime groups at 100 yds with a 3x9 x40 Leupold. if you want a helluva deal get a Stevens (made by Savage but without the accutrigger) Savage has come a long way and I prefer them to Remington as far as accuracy, they just aint as pretty.

[Rundownfid]

"Ford. Mary Ann. Thin crust. Busch Light.

Ford. Mary Ann. Don't care about Pizza. Don't Drink. Savage!

[Uncle Mike]

The internets has built up the Savage but in a personal head to head it fails in comparison to the Remington. The 700 came out of the box shooting, the Savage on the other hand has been through many many handload variations but to no avail.

....an exception maybe. That's odd!

They are both equal, nuff' said.

WOW...Not even close by comparison! Nod to Savage...I know it's hard, but the proof is in the pudding.

You know, I was speaking with a Remington customer service guy, we had just sent 3 more Remingtons back for warranty work, and asked him if he knew what had happened to Remingtons quality in the past several years...he said to "wait and see what Remington does in the coming year, we know we have problems, and we are in the process of fixing them".

Let's hope Big Green gets back up to speed like they where 10 years ago....

Well, they're not really equal. Savage is quite a bit cheaper than Remington. Remington doesn't seem to deliver anything extra for the extra money.

Right....and as P.B. says....you'll generally have to throw a bunch of cash at the Remington to get it to equal the likes of the Savage...which you can own for much less than the Remington.

I have seen a lot of Savage rifles shoot under 1/2" groups at 100 yards.
I have seen, and own a lot of Remingtons that will do the same...and these were out of the box Remingtons, but they are 'old Remingtons'... today's Remingtons are a hit or miss proposition....mostly miss!


Savage has come a long way and I prefer them to Remington as far as accuracy, they just aint as pretty.

The new Savages do look pretty good, but I regress... Remington still turns out a darn good looking rifle...

Question is do you want a looker or a shooter, like a good wife, pretty will fade... and eating burnt biscuits everyday gets old fast! lol hehehe

Until Remington pulls the magic bunny out of its hat, or their thumb out of their....I'll have to go with the Savage line of fine firearms.

[semper_fidelis]

If your planning on tricking it out go with the Remington. There are more after-market Remington parts than you can shake a dead cat at, while on the other savage parts can get hard to find and a bit more on the expensive side. Finally i just bought a Remington 700 BDL with a cheap Cabella's brand scope. It shoots roughly 1 moa at 100 yards with my crappy eyesight and the only rest being the side of a 50 gallon drum.

[R.W.Dale]

If your planning on tricking it out go with the Remington. There are more after-market Remington parts than you can shake a dead cat at, while on the other savage parts can get hard to find and a bit more on the expensive side. Finally i just bought a Remington 700 BDL with a cheap Cabella's brand scope. It shoots roughly 1 moa at 100 yards with my crappy eyesight and the only rest being the side of a 50 gallon drum.

I disagree completely

If your planning on tricking it out you do yourself a huge favor going with the Savage and here's why.

1. there isn't ANYTHING you can buy for a rem that you cant buy for a sav, but not the inverse. 15 years ago remington had more aftermarket support, but time has since marched on

2. You can change out everything on a savage yourself without paying a gunsmith one red cent. Bolt handles, recoil lugs, barrels, bolt heads even the entire action!

3. you can change barrels and bolt heads on a sav with just basic tools, you could literally go from a 300wsm to a 17rem and back on the same action

4. Pre-Fit 100% drop in match grade hand lapped barrels from McGowan or Shilen for under $350 in whatever cartridge you can imagine

In my mind 'building' a remington is like those old schoolers who put a carburetor on their vehicle builds. It's just an old out of date technology that's been surpassed a long time ago.

[jon_in_wv]

+1 what he said. The long range shooters in this are shoot almost exclusively Savages.

http://whitehorse.thomassmith.us/index_files/MatchResults.htm

They use pretty heavily modified rifles to get scores like that but the sky is the limit with Savages. Remingtons are fine rifles but from what I've seen you need a LOT more help from a smith to get things done. When you can do the work yourself you can get a lot more for less.

[Redneck with a 40]

I'll just say that I have a Remmy 700 SPS Tac in .308, with the 20" bull barrel, and I love it! This thing is a smooth, accurate shooter, and I like the trigger on mine, breaks clean, no creep. Over the weekend, I was shooting one inch, 4 shot groups at 200 yards. The rifle is bone stock, with a Nikon Pro-Staff 3-9x40. I'm very happy with this rifle.:) The Hogue overmold stock is awesome in my book too.

No, I don't have any intention of building this thing into some super match, long range rifle, I just like to shoot groups at 200-300 yards, this rifle delivers.