The Love of Hand Cannons
MagnumDweeb
October 7, 2009, 10:05 AM
Before I ever saw a Dirty Harry movie I remember wathcing 'Alien Nation' with my Dad, he's a big closet Sci-fi guy. I remember the use of the .454 Casull and being in awe of its power and strength. I think I was about five or six(I'm only 25 now). I remember not being able to stop talking about it, it was favorite imaginary gun when I played 'War' with my friends. Making the loud booming sound in slow buildup.Then I later later saw the Dirty Harry movies, 'Deadpool' is my favorite for some reason when I know there is 'Sudden Impact' with its more memorable lines.
And then when I later saw Death Wish 3 (I think I saw it before any of the others) and the .475 Wieldey. Go figure that my dad was an anti, I finally converted him after my parents neighborhood started going down hill. And later when I saw my grandpa's(my mom's dad) Ruger Blackhawk .44 Magnum I think I was hooked. Yeah I like my snub nose .357s(don't own a .38 and probably never will unless i get one left or given to me), but I'll always love my Ruger Blackhawks(and Supers). I really need to get a camera to post them. I like my Ruger Redhawks in .44 Magnum, and I've been pondering a few .454 Casull projects(shortened 3.5" barrels, cut for moonclips to also be able to shoot .45 ACP) if I can find some used redhawks in rough shape.
I want to get a ATF legal short barreled double barrel shotgun with the stock removed, ten inches. A .69 caliber slug shot leaving around 1000fps would be as far as I'm willing to pus the hand cannon love, but I can't help but think it would be cool to just have one for the fun of just having one, a little useless over priced toy for grown men much corvettes or blonde girlfriends(when they become wives they are no longer toys) lol.
I'll probably never own a .500 magnum, just can't get into them, i've fondled them in the gunshops, and maybe if I fired one I'd fall for it but I think I'm too utilitarian because I like the .460 better. You can get the .460, .454, and .45LC, and after a visit to a gunsmith like pinnacle you can shoot .45 ACP.
I don't know what drives my love for hand cannons. I compare it to the other parts of my life. I don't care for sports cars, give me a four wheel drive truck with a V-8 any day of the week. I like the simplicity because most handcannons are revolvers, I don't consider 1911s hand cannons unless they have gotten the .460 Rowland conversion that allows them to perform in the .44 magnum range. The one shot, takes out anything standing performance, at least how many view it even if wrongly.
I hold an 1911 in my hands and I feel the simplicity and reliability of the model. I hold a Redhawk .44 Magnum and it's a thing to behold and be in awe of, you just have to unload it and pull the hammer back and decock it safely a few times before reloading it and putting it back.
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ByAnyMeans
October 7, 2009, 11:22 AM
Glad you found what makes you happy. I also like "recoil" and you would think that equated to revolvers but I just don't like them. I shoot em when I can for a shot or two but then I remember my dislike and go back to my semi-autos. Give me a 1911 or Glock any day over a revolver even if it means less power.
NMGonzo
October 7, 2009, 11:36 AM
My little gathering was not complete till I acquired a proper hand cannon of the redhawk variety.
No Quarter
October 7, 2009, 05:21 PM
.44 mag Bond Derringer - THAT is a hand cannon. One of my favorites.
Ben Shepherd
October 7, 2009, 05:28 PM
Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man- Been a while, but this is close to exact wording-
"Harley, NOBODY learns on a converted 454 Casull!"
"I did."
And the comment about how much money he spent per trigger pull and didn't hit anything a little later in the movie was great.
MagnumDweeb
October 7, 2009, 07:15 PM
I think Michey Rourke (the guy from "The Wrestler") was in that, I've never seen it in completion.
Arkansas Paul
October 7, 2009, 07:26 PM
Don't forget the .480 Ruger. It's a dandy.
DasFriek
October 7, 2009, 08:35 PM
I think a 10mm 1911 with DoubleTaps in it could be considered a Hand Cannon.
One day soon i do hope to add a .460 Rowland conversion to my current 1911 for HD.
MCgunner
October 7, 2009, 08:45 PM
10mm? BWAAAAAA, ha, ha, ha! Gimme a break, that pop gun? Hell, the .500 S&W ain't squat, either.......
http://www.vincelewis.net/60magnum.html
:D
http://www.vincelewis.net/50magnum/600-gun-5.JPG
danbrew
October 7, 2009, 09:11 PM
Well, you got it right. Your post says "...CannonS". If it had said Cannon, you could only have one. Since you used the plural, you can have lots. I have a different hand cannon for each day of the week.
Dogbite
October 7, 2009, 10:32 PM
I owned a Ruger 454 for a long time. It was super accurate and incredible. I loved that gun. I shot a friends performance center 500 mag. Wow, thats a awesome handgun.
liviussteven
October 7, 2009, 11:03 PM
the 44 mg is habit forming.... i love it!
TEXAS
October 8, 2009, 08:51 AM
Try Bowin Classic Arms. http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/NEW/RugDAbigbore.htm
They can turn your Ruger Redhawk into a 5-shot 50 Action Express in full-moon clips much like those used on .45 ACP revolvers. A 454, 475 or 500 Linebaugh and more. Light weight, standard, or hevy underlug barrel.
MCgunner
October 8, 2009, 09:38 AM
This is mine, guess you could call it a "hand cannon." It's in .30-30 Winchester.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=65981&d=1193197657
The Encores get into more serious hand cannon calibers. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azBz0DGuu8
WoofersInc
October 8, 2009, 02:08 PM
I've got a couple that I will break out on occasion. First is a Ruger Super Redhawk in 480 Ruger. Then a Tarus Raging Bull in 454 Casull. Finally a Desert Eagle in 50 AE. They are a lot of fun to take with me when I go to any group shoots. Everybody wants to try them out.
Cosmoline
October 8, 2009, 02:15 PM
I want to get a ATF legal short barreled double barrel shotgun with the stock removed, ten inches. A .69 caliber slug shot leaving around 1000fps would be as far as I'm willing to pus the hand cannon love, but I can't help but think it would be cool to just have one for the fun of just having one, a little useless over priced toy for grown men much corvettes or blonde girlfriends(when they become wives they are no longer toys) lol.
In addition to the option of a T-C or a Destructive Device, there are also black powder options.
OrangePwrx9
October 8, 2009, 03:02 PM
Yeah, MCgunner, it gets crazy with the Encore. Sky's the limit.
Back when I was in the handcannon phase, I took several deer with a .35 Rem. Super 14 Contender. Had a handload that duplicated rifle ballistics with the 200 gr. RN in the 14" barrel. It was deadly on deer. Hard to realize its long range potential without a rest...or lots of practice.
Time for practice has become less and less, so the .35 Rem Contender has seen little use lately. That gun cured my thirst for anything bigger.
jbkebert
October 8, 2009, 06:21 PM
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww241/jbkebert/parker019.jpg
Does mine count .308 win
Gryffydd
October 8, 2009, 06:33 PM
I think a 10mm 1911 with DoubleTaps in it could be considered a Hand Cannon.
HAHAHAHAHA! I have great respect for the 10mm compared to other auto rounds. However, it does not come anywhere CLOSE to being a hand cannon. It's capable of less than half the muzzle energy of a .44 Magnum--which these days is on the lower end of the hand cannon spectrum.
My main hand cannon is a 5.5" Ruger Bisley in 45 colt. 335 grain bullets at 1200fps are almost comfortable to shoot :) I don't have any real reason for owning it, though I keep telling myself I might hunt with it one day. Mostly I just love the sturm und drang.
Marlin 45 carbine
October 8, 2009, 06:43 PM
I've shot some of the big boys, .50AE, .454, 30-30 in Encore includeing the lowly .44mag Redhawk and so on and some hot .45 colts. like 'em. I have a 625 that handles the .45 Super easily and a .50 cap lock Hawken that do OK.
MCgunner
October 9, 2009, 10:55 AM
Well, if .45 Colt qualifies, I have a 4 5/8" Blackhawk and a 7" TC barrel in .45 Colt. My hot load pushes a 300 grain XTP to 1200 fps out of the TC, 1120 out of the Blackhawk. I've carried the Blackhawk on hog hunts in case I needed to blood trail in brush and when hunting 'em with dogs and a knife and also on hunts out west and a few hikes in bear country, mountains in New Mexico. It's a handy hogleg, a little heavier than a medium frame .357, but it's also more powerful than a medium frame .357.
Klayface
October 11, 2009, 10:09 PM
My 460 eats 44 mags.
This are the bullets that it eats.
http://mob969.photobucket.com/albums/ae173/Amor5ito/utf-8BSU1HMDAxNzAuanBn.jpg
From left to right
45 acp/45LC/454 cassull/ .460
And this is the monster that eats them.
http://mob969.photobucket.com/albums/ae173/Amor5ito/guns/utf-8BSU1HMDAwOTMuanBn.jpg
Smith & Wesson 460 XVR
And that's my arm and I am 5'10"
Totally Cool.
orionengnr
October 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
Congrats.
You have officially compiled the highest ratio of idiotic posts per thread.
Great job :rolleyes:
Especially the pic of the 460 pointing at it's owner. We need more examples of responsible gun owners like that.
Not.
Klayface
October 11, 2009, 10:58 PM
Oh noes, I should know that a bullet is going to automatically moon walk from my locked ammo box and into my 460 stealthly while I cleaned it. Then according to you the hammer is going to clock its self back and then then trigger is going to be pulled by the leprachaun that is hiding behing me .
Oh yeah I should know better. Silly me.
AKElroy
October 11, 2009, 11:00 PM
Congrats.
You have officially compiled the highest ratio of idiotic posts per thread.
Well, now he has. Way to contribute---
Back to the fun, boys!!
ArchAngelCD
October 11, 2009, 11:27 PM
Oh noes, I should know that a bullet is going to automatically moon walk from my locked ammo box and into my 460 stealthly while I cleaned it. Then according to you the hammer is going to clock its self back and then then trigger is going to be pulled by the leprachaun that is hiding behing me .
Oh yeah I should know better. Silly me.
The four rules should always be obeyed because when they aren't bad things can and will happen...
Rule #2 is: "Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy."
You should look up the other three, it just may save your life of the lives of people around you.
You can make fun all you want but you are unsafe and you proved it by posting that picture!
TargetTerror
October 12, 2009, 12:37 AM
The four rules should always be obeyed because when they aren't bad things can and will happen...
Rule #2 is: "Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy."
You should look up the other three, it just may save your life of the lives of people around you.
You can make fun all you want but you are unsafe and you proved it by posting that picture!
You are not wrong, but his point about the ammo being locked etc also is not wrong. In fact, pretty much anytime anyone cleans their guns without the gun being pointed downrange would technically be a violation of rule #2. NOTHING in my house qualifies as something I am willing to destroy, so does that mean I can never take my gun out of its case while at home?
MagnumDweeb
October 12, 2009, 04:23 PM
When all I wanted to do was celebrate the love of 'hand cannons' we now get into back biting and what. Come on, 'the highroad,' can we save the insults for the rest of our daily lives and just have a little fun. Okay so he points the .460 at himself in the pic, and if it goes off then Darwin is proved right. But if he checked to make sure it was safe and it does not go off, it's just a pic for cripes sake.
Glad to have learned about the .460 and the rest, my eyes are bigger over getting some wrist-punishing, arthritis inducing, hand-cannons.
TargetTerror
October 12, 2009, 06:09 PM
This thread actually got me looking again at the specs for the X frames. The 20 foot barrels obviously are extremely heavy, but I was surprised by the weight of the 4 inch 500, listed at 56 ounces. Now, this is heavy, but really not all that heavy when you are talking about woods guns for protection against large nasty things.
My SBH in 44 (with a 7.5 inch barrel) comes in at 52 ounces, is longer and thus a bit more cumbersome to carry, and doesn't hold a candle to even a reduced 500 load. SRHs are also right in the middle 50s, and again don't have nearly the power. Even the Alaskan is mid-40s, as is the GP100!
I had planned on using my 4 inch GP100 as a woods gun for hunting here in the Northeast, which should be more than sufficient for anything I'm likely to find. But a 4 inch Xframe isnt really that much larger or unwieldy given its power. And as I handload, I could load a more geographically appropriate load, since i don't need to take out any Panzers in the area.
Seancass
October 12, 2009, 10:05 PM
Well Handcannoneers, I need a handcannon. I'm shopping for a SBH .44 5.5" bbl. This gun's sole purpose is hitting targets from 15 to 200 yards. My concerns are power and accuracy. Am i going to get bored of the power of this gun and be left wanting more too soon? Also, is a box-stock Ruger accurate enough for fun at these ranges or will i need to get it worked over? Am i ever going to feel like I'm out-shooting the gun? I do plan on handloading for it and working up accurate loads.
D!rty H@rry
October 12, 2009, 10:08 PM
does this count?
it aint mine but i did shoot it over the weekend.
:D
400gr.'s and shes got some kick.
http://home.earthlink.net/~dbrclan/ruger480.JPG
NMGonzo
October 12, 2009, 10:08 PM
Today I took my beloved 5 and a half redhawk for a little plinking.
I forgot how much walking one must do, since my plinking target was jumpin a good 20 feet away at a time.
BIG FUN!
MCgunner
October 12, 2009, 10:18 PM
My 460 eats 44 mags.
This are the bullets that it eats.
From left to right
45 acp/45LC/454 cassull/ .460
Hmmm, .45ACP, eh? How's THAT workin' out for ya? Got two cylinders for it, maybe?
Seancass
October 12, 2009, 10:21 PM
Why arn't there more pictures in this thread? !
TEXAS
October 12, 2009, 11:41 PM
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/TEXAS/500_Linebaugh.jpg
My 500 Linebaugh 5 1/2" with elephant ivory grips. Built by David Clements
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPBmGUlF8XM
Shooting a mid range load of 440gr @ 1,150 FPS, offhand at 150 yards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31EEgrQOh04
Shooting steel at 300 Yards
Gryffydd
October 12, 2009, 11:42 PM
@TEXAS
Droooooooooool.
ArchAngelCD
October 13, 2009, 01:50 AM
WOW Texas!! That is some serious recoil and you aren't a small guy so it's real. How flat does that 440gr .500 shoot @150 yards?
Seancass
October 13, 2009, 07:23 AM
Texas, i love those vids and i drool over them often, but i think you have an obligation to make more videos. Those vids are over a year old. The public needs more! You have the burden of a celebrity.
I've even started trying the hands-between-knees position, but only with a lowely .357 "magnam".
Also, to the OP wanting a short double-gun, have you seen these?
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0058399.shtml
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Pod/05/83/99/p058399sq03.jpg
Friendly, Don't Fire!
October 13, 2009, 07:57 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2392/dsc05807s.jpg
S&W 500 Magnum 4" barrel stoked with Barnes XPB 275g HP handloads
Millet rear sight
S&W Desantis two-way leather holster with thumb-break
OEM Hogue grips
Seancass
October 15, 2009, 06:01 PM
Anybody else own a Linebaugh cartridge? I'd love a 475 or 500 like TEXAS'. Also right up there is the 500 WE from freedom arms. I'll be looking for one of these next summer! or maybe just a lil 454.
D!rty H@rry
October 15, 2009, 06:25 PM
they have one for sale @ the range. made by Linebaugh .500, no ivory handle or anything, $$$3K.
:what:
Geno
October 15, 2009, 06:31 PM
I like the Encore pistol in .444 Marlin and .45-70 Gov't.
Girodin
October 15, 2009, 08:04 PM
I want to get a ATF legal short barreled double barrel shotgun with the stock removed, ten inches.
I think I'm too utilitarian
Those two statements both being in the OP made me laugh
I think a 10mm 1911 with DoubleTaps in it could be considered a Hand Cannon.
No. Maybe a 1911 converted to 460 Rowland. For some reason I keep looking at the kit.
When I think of hand cannons I often think of this
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1364/newgunphotos007aj2.jpg
45/70 revolver
Seancass
October 16, 2009, 01:31 AM
Everytime i think about getting a BFR in .475 Linebaugh or something similar, i think, "I could have this same gun(roughtly) for the same money, in 45/70, How awesome would that be?." and then i don't buy the lesser caliber. Of course, it's also hard to justify a 45/70 revolver.
Prosser
October 16, 2009, 03:48 AM
BFR short cylinder, .475 Linebaugh is THE best deal in big bores, pretty much ever. Before Obamamania, they went for 500 bucks...
Seancass
October 17, 2009, 11:12 AM
I turned down buying a .475L BFR a few months ago for about $650-750, i forget exactly. I knew it was a good price, but I'd also have to buy a whole reloading set if i wanted to actually shoot it. Plus, I'm not a fan of the plastic/rubber grips. They just don't fit my hand at all.
buck460XVR
October 17, 2009, 06:29 PM
Hmmm, .45ACP, eh? How's THAT workin' out for ya? Got two cylinders for it, maybe?
Actually MC, the cylinder can be cut for moonclips and .45acp can be shot outta a .460. Why one would want to do this I don't know.
Years ago I had a Ruger Blackhawk .44 that I considered a hand cannon. Nowadays my 7.5'' 629 feels like a peashooter compared to my PC .460. Everything is relative, I guess.
pistolero guy
October 18, 2009, 02:48 PM
large caliber pistols have their uses other then machismo reasons. After a close incounter with a black bear on a high mountain trail several years ago while deer hunting, I purchased a 3 inch magna ported S&W 44 mag. and a custom made cross draw holster. the cross draw is so I can still carry my deer rifle on my right sholder and the pistol on my left hip.
hogshead
October 18, 2009, 03:06 PM
Ruger SRH 44 mag, S@W 629 44 mag, Ruger sbh convertible 45 acp/lc, Uberti 45lc, Uberti cap n ball 45 with con cyl, You could say hogs legs kinda grow on you.ps my wife has shot all of them.
ohioshooter
October 18, 2009, 08:31 PM
I'd have to say my 500 S&W and my Desert Eagle in both .44 and .50 AE.
TEXAS
October 19, 2009, 10:54 AM
ArchAngelCD -With a 50 yard "0" I hold up about a shy 1/16" of the front sight to shoot 150 yards. It will drop almost 2' if you hold dead on.
ArchAngelCD
October 20, 2009, 05:06 AM
That's less than I thought. Thanks for the information and the videos. I think I saw them a while back but it was still cool watching them again.
Seancass
October 30, 2009, 08:54 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Bowen_500_Linebaugh.jpg
Anybody else have vids of shooting their hand cannons? I can't get enough of watching them!
jem375
October 30, 2009, 12:01 PM
I shoot a T/C Contender from SSK Industries in 375JDJ, it is a 444 case necked down to .375 and I reload the 220 gr. Hornady FP to 2300 fps and the 270 gr. Hornady to 2100 fps. The recoil is fairly brisk as you can imagine, but controllable. I also shoot a Savage Striker in 308 that I will be deer hunting this year with. Try this website for hand cannons:
www.sskindustries.com
Seancass
November 24, 2009, 11:41 PM
I have waiting years for this. I am officially a Hand Cannoneer. That feels good just to type. I bought a Ruger Super Blackhawk! Finally got it out and shot it today and it's a little kitten. Hardly any kick. I'll admit that was a little disapointing, but this will help me shoot it more. Only had cheap ammo today, but a friend is going to let me brew some hand loads with his help. Soon i'll be shooting like you guys! I hope.
Anyway, Pics: (sorry, i thought these would shrink a little automatically.)
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/Schwan427/3.jpg?t=1259123997
Measure 1 5/8 at a lasered 35 yards off an improvised rest. The ammo was American Eagle. This gun is capable of much more with different ammo and an improved operator.
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/Schwan427/T1.jpg?t=1259123281
Rexster
November 27, 2009, 10:23 PM
The Man himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DZdfdAuxCA
atlanticfire
November 27, 2009, 10:34 PM
http://www.jaybiddle.com/500MAG.jpg
http://www.jaybiddle.com/500MAG2.jpg
Giver of Doom
November 28, 2009, 10:54 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/GTBUSA/338AX2.jpg
atlanticfire
November 29, 2009, 12:13 AM
Doom, why is your rifle missing the back stock? :scrutiny:
zombienerd
November 29, 2009, 04:33 AM
10mm? BWAAAAAA, ha, ha, ha! Gimme a break, that pop gun? Hell, the .500 S&W ain't squat, either.......
http://www.vincelewis.net/60magnum.html
'Pffft....
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/airborne_combat_engineer/2005/01/the_maadi_griff.html
http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/pistol50bmgmaadigriffin467ace.jpg
atlanticfire
November 29, 2009, 04:56 PM
'Pffft....
That pistol makes so little sense in so many ways.:rolleyes:
Seancass
January 25, 2010, 03:47 PM
atlanticfire and Giver of Doom need to post more info.
I've only owned this gun 2 months and i already want something bigger. I'm even worried that a .454 wouldn't be big enough. Local gun store had a .500 fairly cheap, but it had a long barrel and i would rather have a shorter one.
rha600
January 26, 2010, 01:18 PM
Atlanticfire's looks like maybe a 500BFR?
I like shooting my 500 however I fine that I'm not very consistant with it. Some days I can put 20 rounds into the bullseye at 20 yards with no problem and then other days I can't get a group under 12 inches. i know it's me, I just can't seem to get it under control.
As for future handcanons, i'd like to get into the TC prohunter series, both rifle and pistol, chambered for rifle loads for hunting.
KingTiger
January 26, 2010, 03:37 PM
Here's my 308 WIN 1911. I haven't seen too many, after shooting it a few times I think I understand why. It reminds me of a WWII newsreel segment of a German 88 AA round going off. I guess I need to investigate some of those managed recoil rounds. Nothing like carrying some 150 gr. ballistic tips locked & loaded.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x119/KingTiger_photo/1911A21_edited.jpg
huntme
January 26, 2010, 03:38 PM
i would love to own a 500 S.W,world most powerfull hand gun.the 400 grain f.m.j is a monster.here grizzle,come get some of this.
Jermz1987
January 26, 2010, 04:27 PM
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/jermz999/rubberbandgun.jpg
Seriously though, Lets see more hand cannons, I love em!
zxcvbob
January 26, 2010, 04:29 PM
That Davide Pedersoli Howdah pistol in post #38 would be mighty tempting if it was a couple of $100 cheaper (cheaper than the current sale price.) http://www.cabelas.com/p-0058399.shtml
Many years ago I when I was young and stupid, bought a 16 gauge shotgun barrel from Dixie Gun Works, threaded and plugged the breech, cut it down to about 12", and made a literal "hand cannon". Loaded with about 70 grains of black powder and a fiber wad, it was unbelievably loud. Much louder than typical 12 gauge breech-loading signal cannons loads. I'd kind of like a safe version now...
farscott
January 26, 2010, 04:34 PM
My FA 83 in .454 Casull behind its little brother, the FA 97 in .357 Magnum.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/farscott/FreedomArms002.jpg
rha600
January 26, 2010, 04:40 PM
i would love to own a 500 S.W,world most powerfull hand gun.the 400 grain f.m.j is a monster.here grizzle,come get some of this.
It's far from the most powerful handgun considering TC makes pistols chambered in high powered rifle calibers. But yeah, I guess technically it is the most powerful handgun in a handgun caliber?
Either way, if you ever have the chance to shoot one, do it. The 400gr is nasty. I've shot the 500gr also but I really didn't notice much difference between the two. I guess my hand was just already at it's max for experienced recoil. haha.
Ronsch
January 26, 2010, 04:50 PM
No longer have (to my deep regrets)...
.44 Magnum Desert Eagle.
4" S&W Model 29.
Miss them both...
jackpinesavages
January 26, 2010, 05:25 PM
It's the beauty of handguns, like motorcycles or guitars. There's a ton of craftsman who made works of art like these steel beasts of wheelguns and 1911s. My DanWesson .44Mag CTG, fixed 5" barrel. Loaded with Magnums for deer or bear, loaded with Specials to show noobs how some pistols run more than one ammo..
The plastics and polymers are great for tactical and service apps., but these babys are timeless.
pcctex
January 27, 2010, 08:27 AM
Thank you to all. Very enjoyable thread.
pcctex
50AE Desert Eagle
Dr.Rob
January 27, 2010, 04:05 PM
I dunno if my 44 Vaquero is a cannon... it's definitely a hog leg. Dad's SBH hunter model with compressed powder bear loads --yike! .357 Maximum fit the bill?
Worst cannon I ever fired was an Encore with a .30-06 barrel. OUCH!
rha600
January 27, 2010, 04:34 PM
Dr. Rob, to be honest I just recently purchased a .357 myself. I've fired both a 357 and a 44mag before but it's been a long time.
I guess since I have my 500, the 357 just seemed tame to me but everytime I've been to the range (indoor range) with it now I've had someone come over to see what I'm shooting because they say they can feel it in their chest when it goes off. I gues it technically doesn't fall into the "cannon" catagory but i have to say, that gun does draw attention that I'm used to from only firing my 500.
RX-178
January 27, 2010, 04:42 PM
I don't really have any that qualify at the current moment, but coming soon on my list of weapons to buy:
Taurus Raging Judge Magnum.
Marlin 336 .30-30 (I know, not a handcannon, but that rifle purchase leads to:)
BFR .30-30 to go with the 336.
dougwx12
January 28, 2010, 01:57 PM
You are not wrong, but his point about the ammo being locked etc also is not wrong. In fact, pretty much anytime anyone cleans their guns without the gun being pointed downrange would technically be a violation of rule #2. NOTHING in my house qualifies as something I am willing to destroy, so does that mean I can never take my gun out of its case while at home?
The rules exist to provide redundancy.
When you clean, presumably you're following rule #2 while you verify that it's unloaded, open the action, and either leave it open or disassemble the weapon. In either case, it's easily obvious that it doesn't matter if it's unloaded, as it can't fire. So you've got redundancy in that: first it was finger off the trigger and pointed in a safe direction, then it was checked to be unloaded and pointed in a safe direction, and then you checked it was unloaded and it's obviously unable to fire even if so due to the action being open or being disassembled. There is no step where there is a single point of failure.
The picture above requires only a brief memory lapse for an accident to happen, since there is no redundancy at play, you have no cross-check on human error. If you really can't think of a way for that gun to be loaded even with the main ammo stash being locked up, then I submit you're not thinking hard enough. The worst part is that the owner is over-confident enough to think it's safe. I sincerely hope that his first 'oh ****, I can make a mistake' moment ends well.
And since we're all gun-loving redneck idiots to certain folks, that picture ends up reflecting on all of us.
The picture wouldn't have made me cringe if the cylinder had been open, btw.
C-grunt
January 28, 2010, 03:49 PM
I had and sold a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 mag. It was a good gun just not what I wanted and sold it to fund something else. I will eventually get what I did want, a .45 Colt probably in Ruger flavor.
shockwave
January 28, 2010, 04:06 PM
Oh yeah I should know better. Silly me.
Since I'm a little new here and don't know all the rules, I'm gonna ask: That pic of the owner pointing his gun at his own fool self, that's just so wrong on so many levels. Violates the first rule of handgun safety. Do you call a moderator to yank the pic or what?
To the OP: Doesn't matter that you know the gun is empty - you can probably see down the barrel and chambers. The problem is that once you start getting sloppy about the basics, you risk getting into the habit of ignoring other basic rules, because "this time it's OK" etc. This is the anatomy of a firearms accident. They usually start long before the actual injury - they start like this, with carelessness.
rha600
January 28, 2010, 05:24 PM
Shockwave just it the nail on the head.
Handling the gun should be somewhat automatic. you shouldn't have to think to yourself "is it ok to point the gun my way since there are no bullets in it?". You should AUTOMATICALLY know not to ever point it towards anyone. then you never have to think to yourself and decide if it's ok or not.
one day you will think it's ok and it won't be.
Seancass
April 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
Anybody gotten out a shot their handcannon lately? I just bought some 300gr cast bullets for my .44 that i'm looking forward to loading up soon. Once i find a load my gun likes i can see what she'll really do.
I'm excited. How about you?
Boxhead
April 23, 2010, 10:33 AM
A few weeks ago I was out for the first time with my tweaked BFR 475 Linebaugh shooting 400 gr LFN's at 1100 fps. I like this piece a bunch.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1055658/M25-2andBFR022.JPG
Ronsch
April 23, 2010, 01:48 PM
Shot my 4 1/2" Uberti Cattleman in 45LC last weekend...Do those count?
Would love to have the 3 inch version...Super belly gun!
GreySmoke2
April 23, 2010, 02:23 PM
Just picked it up last night and havent even fired it yet but here is my Ruger Super Redhawk .44 Magnum 7.5" barrel.
By the way that table top is 15" wide....
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/greysmoke2/RugerSuperRedhawk44Mag.jpg
searcher451
April 23, 2010, 08:01 PM
I've never been enamored of the idea of owning and/or shooting one. This might be the reason why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQgb0VoLc0
atlanticfire
April 23, 2010, 10:39 PM
Fresh one
http://jaybiddle.com/GUNS/500mag1.jpg
700 Gr load
rha600
April 24, 2010, 06:13 PM
I've never been enamored of the idea of owning and/or shooting one. This might be the reason why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQgb0VoLc0
That's because that guy is an idiot and his friends aren't much better.
THIS is why you SHOULD shoot one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSCVf5KfZ7I&feature=PlayList&p=33556E7C224C0D85&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=46
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