[tango3065]

Im want ing a small stainlees steel stubie for home use and sometime ccl I really like smith and wesson but I want a all steel frame not airlight any suggestions?

[BLiTzNicK]

Go to www.smith-wesson.com , and checkout the model 60.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/products/firearms/images/standard/sw162420.jpg

[tango3065]

Thanks nick I really like it I also would like the on with the cutoff hammer but im having problems finding anything but the airweight in my neck of the woods. Do you have any idea what the price for that gun is.

[Airboss]

I have and carry a 640 .357 a fair bit and also carry a 649 in .38 from time to time both of them are great guns low maintance and go bang!! when you pull the trigger.I have a range in my back yard so range time is no problem but I find that I will put about 50 rounds through one or the other every week.they are fun to shoot and I for one would have no trouble betting my life on either one.YMMV

[Standing Wolf]

My carry gun is a pre-agreement Smith & Wesson model 60 in .357 magnum. It's a dandy. It's surprisingly accurate out to about twenty yards, and to my amazement, isn't much more difficult to shoot than a K frame with a short barrel.

[BLiTzNicK]

The 640 that was mentioned looks like this:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/products/firearms/images/standard/sw163690.jpg

The model 60s that I've seen run somewhere around $425 +-.

The model 640 is probably going to be in the same price range.

Where in KY are you? If you are near Flemingsburg or Morehead, I know several guys who will order anything you want.

[chaim]

If you want it primarily for HD and only occasional CCW I'd suggest going with a 3" J-frame or 2.5" or 3" K-frame. The longer barrel will give you a bit more velocity, very helpful in .357mag and even more so in .38 or .38+P. The K-frame will be important for controllability and follow up shots if you might use .357mag.

Some suggestions (some only available in 2") with bobbed or concealed hammers:
-S&W 640
-Taurus 850 or 650 (not a Smith, but a similar enough design to feel familar to a Smith owner)
-Taurus 85 or 65 CH (bobbed hammer design)
-Taurus 905CH (9mm, bobbed hammer)
-If you must have a small frame snub (no medium frame snubs) and you really want a .357 you may want to consider a Ruger SP101 for extra controllability (available in bobbed hammer and/or 3" but I'm not sure you can get both in the same gun).

With hammers (you can always take it to a smith to bob the hammer and convert it to DAO):
-Taurus 85 or 605
-Taurus 905 (new 9mm)
-S&W 60 (.357mag)
-S&W 36 (.38spl)
-S&W 65LS (3" K-frame)
-S&W 66 (available in 2.5")
-used 2.5" or 3" K-frame
-Ruger SP 101 (see above section)
-If it isn't too heavy for you for your occasional CCW a 2.5" S&W 686 or 3" Ruger GP 100 are very nice guns as well (but they are the largest medium frame guns).