Just bought my 2nd SIGMA


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doc540
October 7, 2009, 04:33 PM
New - $250 with the current $50 rebate

Best gun for the money I've ever owned and S&W's service is stellar.

I couldn't ask for a better truck gun.

Wanna talk about triggers? Go ahead....ask me.:neener:

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Demitrios
October 7, 2009, 04:36 PM
OK, I'll bait. . . . what about triggers?

doc540
October 7, 2009, 04:47 PM
Smith will fix the infamous trigger and pay postage both ways on their dime.

Got my first one back within 2 weeks of shipping it.

Just can't beat that for a $250 truck gun.

cchris
October 7, 2009, 05:47 PM
$250? Where?

If S&W will fix the trigger, that'd be a new story. I messed around with the trigger on mine so I'm a little concerned about sending it back.

doc540
October 7, 2009, 06:07 PM
$299 budsgunshop.com

$50 factory rebate until 12/31/09.

Won't cost anything to find out if they'll warranty it or not.

sarduy
October 28, 2009, 01:15 AM
what model did you get?

i got the 9mm & .40 from buds.

HippieMagic
October 28, 2009, 02:56 AM
They wouldn't fix it for my friend. He was told they no longer offered free trigger fixes because "We intended it to be heavy" I don't know what he said exactly to them but it didn't work at all lol.

makarovnik
October 28, 2009, 06:36 AM
I like the way they feel in the hand. Nice deal on a reliable pistol. I like the .40.

JTQ
October 28, 2009, 07:38 AM
Congratulations on nice pistol at a great price. The Sigma does feel nice in the hand, but I imagine shooting much more than a box of 50 rounds would be difficult with the stock trigger (unless you are trying to exercise your trigger finger).

I've wondered what one would say when you call S&W about the Sigma trigger.

It's not really broken, like HippieMagic said it was designed that way, so there isn't a responsibility for them to do warranty work on it. It's more like you are asking them to "tune" the trigger which is more like "elective surgery" and I would think they would ask to be paid for the modification.

So when you call, how does the conversation with S&W Customer Service go? I'm not jerking your chain. I do like the Sigma and would be interested in the trigger modification.

Jim

doc540
October 28, 2009, 10:01 AM
"They wouldn't fix it for my friend. He was told they no longer offered free trigger fixes because "We intended it to be heavy" I don't know what he said exactly to them but it didn't work at all."

Nope, they will not fix a "heavy" trigger.

Simply call them, say you're fine with the trigger pull weight, but it is unacceptably "rough" and "gritty" and doesn't feel like the parts have been machined or fitted properly.

Worked for me a couple of weeks ago, and it's already in their hands by now.

sarduy
October 28, 2009, 07:33 PM
I do like the Sigma and would be interested in the trigger modification.

the mods is simple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D626_sbknQo

doc540
November 2, 2009, 04:27 PM
Arrived back in my hands today.

Trigger's better: like night and day different.

Whole process from shipping it to receiving it took less than 2 weeks.

da3394
November 2, 2009, 05:38 PM
Mine has a somewhat heavy trigger. It is smooth but heavy. It is not supposed to be a competition firearm but a carry-defensive firearm. I figure that if I am man enough to carry it, I am man enough to pull the trigger. Mine goes bang everytime, it is not very heavy to carry and I am very happy with it. A heck of a good buy for the price.

jackg
November 2, 2009, 05:44 PM
I just called S&W cust. srvc. 800-331-0852 and asked to speak to someone about a problem with my pistol. Larry answered and asked how he could help. I told him that the trigger seemed not to be working right because the parts were not machined or fitted properly. He said he's sending me pre-paid shipping labels and I should put a note in the shipping box and explain I'm returning it because the "..trigger is rough & catchy."

I'll update you guys with the outcome when I get it back.

Jack

doc540
November 2, 2009, 05:54 PM
(cut-and-paste quote from a message Frank posted just a week ago on a public, online forum)




"Factory Instructions for SIGMA Trigger Work

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Sigma was designed to simulate the feel of a double action revolver as a transition weapon for officers changing from a revolver to a pistol. A trigger pull of about 10 lbs is necessary for the weapon to function. However, if the trigger pull is excessively heavy or rough, those issues can be addressed. If you would like to send it in for repair:



Put your name, address, phone number, and the issue(s) that you are having inside the case with the gun. Take it to a FedEx service center (not a FedEx Kinkos or a mom & pop place) or there are sometimes FedEx Express Drop boxes at US Post Offices. Go to FedEx.com to find your closest shipping location. Ask for a white medium express box, they will give it to you free of charge (don’t let them “sell” you a box). Smith & Wesson only pays for the shipping, not the shipping materials. Please include all magazines if there is a feeding, misfire, and or extraction issue.



On the shipping label address it to the address below:

Your Return Shipping Address: By Federal Law, we must return it to the address used on the shipping label.

In section4a) mark the box second day air

In section7) mark the box bill to recipient, on the line write this account # 2456-8820-2, and on the line total declared value write the cost of the gun

In section mark the box direct signature required. We will repair it and send it back to you.


Frank Smith

LSG Manufacturing
10059 Hwy 1476
Comanche TX 76442
lsgmfg.com
325-885-2700 phone/fax

Authorized Warranty Station for:
Smith & Wesson , WALTHER, and Remington"

(You're Welcome)
__________________

Yo Mama
November 2, 2009, 05:56 PM
the mods is simple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D626_sbknQo


I wouldn't follow this one. Sorry, but I'd be a bit concerned that you just removed a spring, and didn't do a proper trigger job, like by a competent Smith that knows what they are doing.

If it was really that easy, S&W would tell folks to do this themselves.

doc540
November 2, 2009, 06:18 PM
Agreed

HippieMagic
November 2, 2009, 06:21 PM
The main problem I had wasn't the trigger pull itself it is the fact that there is no clean break. Maybe I just like my glock's trigger a little too much but I felt like I never knew when to expect it to fire. It seemed to handle recoil pretty softly though.

jackg
November 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
The main problem I had wasn't the trigger pull itself it is the fact that there is no clean break. Maybe I just like my glock's trigger a little too much but I felt like I never knew when to expect it to fire. It seemed to handle recoil pretty softly though.
That feeling you describe of never knowing when it would fire is exactly what is buggin' me. Along with the fact it just isn't proper.

Kingofthehill
November 2, 2009, 06:37 PM
I wouldn't follow this one. Sorry, but I'd be a bit concerned that you just removed a spring, and didn't do a proper trigger job, like by a competent Smith that knows what they are doing.

If it was really that easy, S&W would tell folks to do this themselves.

I have a 9mm sigma with that mod and it has approx 2,000 down the pipe and its been perfect.

JOe

doc540
November 2, 2009, 06:52 PM
"The main problem I had wasn't the trigger pull itself it is the fact that there is no clean break."

That's one of the biggest improvement the factory fix makes on them.

TeamPrecisionIT
November 2, 2009, 08:37 PM
I have a Sigma with easily 10K rounds through the pipe and never did that trigger job but have had exactly one stoppage with the gun not intentionally done by me. I am going to try that trigger mod and see what it's like.

Damian

jackg
November 3, 2009, 10:38 AM
DOC540-This isn't the info provided to me by S&W.

doc540
November 3, 2009, 11:36 AM
"DOC540-This isn't the info provided to me by S&W."

Not sure what's up with that because that's exactly what they've told me over the phone (more than once), and that's an exact cut-and-paste quote Frank posted recently in a public, online forum.

And mine just arrived back from S&W yesterday.

hmmmm.....:confused:

jackg
November 3, 2009, 03:49 PM
"DOC540-This isn't the info provided to me by S&W."

Not sure what's up with that because that's exactly what they've told me over the phone (more than once), and that's an exact cut-and-paste quote Frank posted recently in a public, online forum.

And mine just arrived back from S&W yesterday.

hmmmm.....:confused:
doc540
It's probably because I haven't received the instructions from S&W yet. I'm sure you''re right.
Have you been to the range yet? Is it better?

doc540
November 3, 2009, 04:50 PM
Haven't shot it yet, but drying firing indicates that it's a significant improvement.

It's already loaded and "in my truck".

Will probably shoot it one afternoon after work this week.

Yo Mama
November 3, 2009, 04:53 PM
I have a 9mm sigma with that mod and it has approx 2,000 down the pipe and its been perfect.

JOe

This has no bearing on the argument. What's to say your gun will not go full auto on round 2001? Can you imagine the liability on you?

Can it be done? Should it be done? Two different questions.

mcbfl
November 5, 2009, 04:14 PM
Just took my new Sigma to the range this morning. I like it.

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