[Madjohn]

hey all i recently got a little tired of my mossberg 835 pump gun and im looking for something a little shorter with the same range for skeet/indoor practice/home defense. i was looking at the remington 870 standard or marine magnum or the mossberg 590. my price range is going to be under $500 and i know you can get a quality long lasting shotgun for that.

[chevyforlife21]

get the 590,benelli nova,or the remington would be good if the safety and action release were in easier spots thats why i say go mossberg or benelli.

[Madjohn]

are the mossberg shotguns worth it? i mean i own the 835 but i want something that can compete with the remington and other big name competitors.

[gglass]

Wow... And, here I always thought that Mossberg was a big name. I lot of soldiers and Marines will be sorry to hear that they have been using no-name shotguns.

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

compete?

How so?


If it's measured in mere repertoire, then no, I guess the mossberg can't compete.


But, if you're talking about reliability, quality and practicality, I consider mossberg to be the superior shotgun.

[oneounceload]

with the same range for skeet

guess I'm not quite understanding this part of the question.

Are you talking about shooting the GAME called skeet? Short barrel tactical guns are usually a little harder to do well in that regard. Either way, same range? Please clarify for me....:confused:

[AcceptableUserName]

Mossberg. "More gun for the money", as they say.

[bgrav321]

so i went clay shooting a few weeks ago and I had a maverick 88 (slightly not as decked out mossberg 500) with an 18 inch barrle. I owned the guys with hunting length 870s and bird guns...it was really funny. I have this stubby like black shotgun with synthetic furniture that i got for like 200 bucks and they couldn't hit anything with much nicer remingtons.

[oneounceload]

Was that at a gun club or in a pasture? I have never seen a tactical length shotgun in any winner's circle at ANY shotgun competition in any of the states I have shot in

[post_apocalyptic]

If your budget were a few hundred dollars higher, you'd have a lot more options, (semi-autos).

[Madjohn]

i was looking for an all around shtogun. closer to the size of a tactical short barrel shotgun. i already have a skeet gun but im looking for something i can use more for home defense and indoor ranges. the skeet and trap shooting isnt as important. the mossberg 590 looks like my best bet but im also looking at the benelli supernova tactical. has anyone had any experience with either of these or could recommend one.

[Gunfighter123]

It's hard to go wrong with a Mossberg tactical style SG for the money.

[Fred Fuller]

i want something that can compete with the remington and other big name competitors

That depends more on the shooter than the gun. You already know where the controls are on a Mossberg, just get a 590 or 590A1 and BA/UU/R....

lpl

[68caliberkiller]

Get a gently used semi and start a barrel collection. I'm partial to gas Remingtons, they supposedly recoil a tad less, lots of barrels and accessories out there since they've been around forever. Takes about 5 minutes to change from my goose gun to my dove or home defender. I'm sure the same goes for other big brands as well.

[Rshooter]

I used an 870 on guard duty many years ago. My Marines carried 870's years later. The Marines now carry Mossbergs among others. If the Marines carry without breaking them inside of two weeks they can compete with Remingtons. :what:

Semper Fi

[Tully M. Pick]

If the Marines carry without breaking them inside of two weeks they can compete with Remingtons.
Best argument I've seen yet.

[Grey_Mana]

I was at the club the other day. A little old man came to the trap range, stooped nearly in half, leaning heavily on a cane, shambling. They let him shoot alone, which I thought was weird (there was good weather line, and they were putting strangers together to fill out the squads). But I thought - maybe because he is so obviously handicapped. He had a magnificent, gorgeous, invaluable shotgun. Then I learned the other reason why he got to shoot alone - he was lickety-split fast and missed 0/25 from the 16 yard line. I tried to watch and learn - but he was so fast. No follow through I could detect.

After he came over and sat down, he chatted with us waiting. Everyone remarked on his incredible shooting and how nice his gun was (he gave details about the gun that I forget - it was European, and semi-automatic). Then, somebody made a remark to the effect of how his good shooting was all the gun. He offered to take that jerk's place in line, use his gun and shells, and see how he did. After some back-and-forth, somebody volunteered a field Maverick 88 pump instead. We insisted he cut in line and shoot, rather than wait. He missed 0/25 again.

[Snarlingiron]

I always tease my shooting buddy that he scores better than me because he has more expensive guns. His standing offer is that he will trade with me any time and still beat me. I know he's right, but I still like to tease him with it.

I always beg off on the trade by saying that I'm afraid I might scratch his fancy gun.

I have managed to sneak in a couple of wins but not many.

[WutUpGeez]

Get a Benelli Tactical Nova/Super Nova. Far superior to the 870 or the 500/590.

Unless of course it's an older 870...New remingtons are crap. Benelli has way better quality control. Take it from someone who's owned them all.

[chevyforlife21]

i have had the nova tactical and sold it to get a mossberg 500 persuader, i like the mossberg better. i have shot or owned many pumps. for tactical mossberg or benelli is your best bet.

[WutUpGeez]

"i have had the nova tactical and sold it to get a mossberg 500 persuader, i like the mossberg better. i have shot or owned many pumps. for tactical mossberg or benelli is your best bet."

Why on earth would you do that?

[chevyforlife21]

i like the safety and action release spots better on the mossberg. also the mossberg has a 7+1 mag, while the benelli only has a 4 +1. and i would rather own something American. just like how i would rather have a Chevy alot more then a bmw.

[lobo9er]

and i would rather own something American

i like mossberg, and 590 is one of my favorite so i am not attacking anyong, but i think mossberg is starting to be made in mexico. i picked up an after market barrel at gander mountain and on the box said product of mexico or manufactured in mexico something to that effect. i was bummed out.

[DMR]

You know you could just get a 18" barrel for your 835 right? Add an extended Nordic Comp mag tube (or not) and you have a HD shotgun.

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

What does BA/UU/R stand for?

[KaintGetwright]

If I recall correctly, it stands for buy ammo, use up, repeat.

[John Parker]

After some back-and-forth, somebody volunteered a field Maverick 88 pump instead. We insisted he cut in line and shoot, rather than wait. He missed 0/25 again.
This would imply that the shooter and his skillset is more important than the equipment, something that we all know to be patently false. It's gear, gear, gear! ;-)

(I love it when old geezers pull that trick!)

[Snarlingiron]

What does BA/UU/R stand for?

Buy Ammo/Use Up/Repeat

Courtesy of Mr. McCracken, I believe.

[Madjohn]

i think im going to go with the mossberg 590. if its good enough for the military its good enough for me. do you guys know from experience how the sights that they come with are or should i buy some aftermarket ones?

[kwelz]

590 with ghostring sights is a great gun.

[CZ223]

it is not the Marine shotgun. The 590A1 is the gun the Marines carry. The main difference between the two is that a couple of parts, like the trigger guard, on the 590A1 are made of metal where they are made of plastic on the 590. I have both the 590 and and 870 HD. Unless you are going into combat or doing a lot of competition, I would choose the 870. It is lighter and quicker, for me at least. I like the 590 but it is a tank. The ghost ring sights are nice but mine are not well regulated. In order to get it sighted in my sight is way right. It looks odd but it works.

[NYShooter]

"The 590A1 is the gun the Marines carry."

The official USMC issued shotgun is the Benelli M4.

[jakk280rem]

i really like that remington 870 with the 18.5" barrel that takes rem chokes. light, short, handy, and gives you the ability to tune your shot patturn with a wide variety of loads at any distance. it also comes with a factory +2 extension. i picked one up last spring for $360.

[chuckusaret]

Get a Benelli Tactical Nova/Super Nova. Far superior to the 870 or the 500/590.

How is it better? I had a Benelli Tactical Nova that was a POS, traded it for a Saiga that was not much better. The joke around the range is here comes Chuck with his sad Saiga made by "Is A Mess Arms" (Izmesh Arms of Russia). I'll stick with Mossberg and Remington.

Gee, come to think of it the Benelli shotgun was just like a Benelli motorbike I had, a POS.

[Madjohn]

how is the remington 870 tactical vs the 590? are there preferences or is one actually proven to be better?

[Dave McCracken]

Madjohn, both the 590 and 870 are amazing weapons in trained, capable hands. As to which is better, it boils down to personal choice.

My defensive shotguns are 870s. But, if only a 590 was at hand when things got hinky, I doubt my effectiveness would be compromised.

Actually, just about every shotgun mentioned in this thread makes up into a very good weapon in those hands mentioned above.

[Snakum]

This would imply that the shooter and his skillset is more important than the equipment, something that we all know to be patently false. It's gear, gear, gear! ;-)


Why, of course it's the gear. Something guitar players and golfers have known for years.

Someone has to keep the economy going. :D

[JamisJockey]

It doesn't get any more tactical than this:

http://www.thecountryshed.com/ROS4100-12GA.jpg

:neener: