[Lightsped]

I am curious, during past ATF bans on certain guns how were gun owners notified to turn certain guns in? What was the procedure like? Did they get paid for turning the guns in?

[Hkmp5sd]

AFAIK, the federal government has never passed a law outright banning any given firearm and required them to be handed over. Whenever they pass some new law like the '94 AW ban, which reclassified some shotguns as DDs, the current owners were allowed to register them.

[TheOtherOne]

It wasn't federal, but weren't Californians forced to turn in their homeland defense weapons? I don't think there was a grandfather clause on that law.

[444]

"Whenever they pass some new law like the '94 AW ban, which reclassified some shotguns as DDs, the current owners were allowed to register them."

When "they" decide to declare a weapon a NFA weapon, there is an amnesty period for their present owners to file the appropirate paperwork and get a tax stamp. The only one I recall was the Streetsweeper shotgun. At the time, it was pretty common knowlege. I remember reading about it in the various magazines. I am sure if it ever happens again (:barf: :fire: :banghead: ) it will be widely talked about on internet gun forums such as this.

[cordex]

The only one I recall was the Streetsweeper shotgun.
Hmmm ... IIRC, that addition also included the USAS-12.

As far as collecting banned weapons, Waco was a good example of how that is sometimes handled.

[SnWnMe]

No, us Kalifornians were not required to turn firearms in. I don't think even Kalifornia will let that happen. We (at least the law abiding ones) were fleeced $20.00 for the privilege of registering our "assault weapon" with the State. We can't sell em anymore (not instate), can't will em off, can't give em away.

"When it's time to bury our guns, it's time to dig em out"

[Kharn]

SnWnMe:
I believe TheOtherOne is talking about the SKS ban, where the state reopened the registration period due to hardly anyone registering their guns. A bunch of people registered their rifles during the extension, but a gun grabber group (GGG? is that like the KKK? :confused: ) sued and was able to force the late registrations to be declared invalid. I believe all the late-registerers were notified the guns had to be either destroyed, turned in, or moved out of state.

Kharn

[4v50 Gary]

When Bill Lockyer became the State's Attorney General, he reversed the opinion that allowed for guns to be registered. Letters went out to get the guns out of state or surrender them to LEO. Same thing happened to the SKS that could take detachable magazines. :mad:

[Lightsped]

During the 94 AW issue, what is you had a AOW gun (like a shorty shotgun) and could not find a Chief LEO to sign off, or could not afford to start up a corporation?

What happened to these folks?

[4v50 Gary]

As the Calif. ban pre-dated the '94 Federale Ban, we didn't really have to contend with the latter. We were toothless by then and either disregarded the law, registered them or shipped them out of state. There's one range in NV that offered to store them for a fee (and that organization shall remain unnamed).

[Pilgrim]

When Bill Locknyer became the State's Attorney General, he reversed the opinion that allowed for guns to be registered. Letters went out to get the guns out of state or surrender them to LEO. Same thing happened to the SKS that could take detachable magazines.

What happened is the Attorney General was sued for allowing "amnesty" registrations that weren't provided for in law. Since the Roberti-Roos law provided for a $300 infraction for possessing an unregistered AW provided the owner registered it prior to court, the AG's opinion was that he could continue to register AWs provided the owner could prove he lawfully owned it before implementation of Roberti-Roos.

A bunch of anti-gunners sued the AG saying there was no provision for registration after the cutoff date, and absent an amnesty period provided by the legislature he was violating the law. That is why a lot of people had their registrations canceled. The AG never fought the lawsuit.

Pilgrim

[444]

Note that the guy posting the question is not in kalifornia. He is specifically asking about the ATF.

[Triad]

During the 94 AW issue, what is you had a AOW gun (like a shorty shotgun) and could not find a Chief LEO to sign off, or could not afford to start up a corporation?

What happened to these folks?

I think you're mixing up your gun laws. IIRC, the AOW classification was created by the NFA of '34. So anybody that had one in '94 without the stamp and CLEO signature was a felon before the AW ban came to be.
Also, with the exception of the NFA, I believe most of the laws have not forced individual owners to comply because they grandfathered those guns already out there. Instead they relied on forcing the importers and dealers to comply. I'll show you what I mean.

(If any of this is incorrect I'm sure someone will supply the right info)

NFA '34-This is the one that hit owners. No more machine guns, suppressors, or AOW's without fed approval. Those that already had them had to get fed approval to legally keep them. I have no idea how they handled this one, I'm not even sure ATF existed at the time.

GCA '68- This one hit dealers and importers. No more mail order guns, lots of bureaucratic BS and I think it banned the importation of Class 3 items.

FOPA '86- This ended alot of the BS from '68, but also ended the manufacture and registration of new machine guns for us serfs, those who already had machine guns didn't have to do anything.

Import ban of '89- This ended the importation of certain guns, but didn't effect those already in the country.

'94 AW ban- Basically the '89 ban applied to domestic guns. Most existing guns were not effected, the exception being the Street Sweeper and some other similar guns I think.

[TheOtherOne]

We (at least the law abiding ones) were fleeced $20.00 for the privilege of registering our "assault weapon" with the State. We can't sell em anymore (not instate), can't will em off, can't give em away.So what happens to them when you die? Does the state show up at your funeral and confiscate them?

[Master Blaster]

You have them burried with you in a special Gun safe coffin approved by the state of Californicate of course.

[RustyHammer]

You have them burried with you in a special Gun safe coffin approved by the state of Californicate of course.

.... and taxed accordingly.