destroyerbear
October 18, 2009, 02:04 PM
I was just wondering how much you could make working for an ammo company to load ammo. Maybe bulletsmithing or something. How could i get a job like that. and Who would best hire me
any body employed to be an ammo loader
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ranger335v
October 18, 2009, 07:06 PM
Research to find and then contact Remington, Winchester, etc, to ask for an application in their ammuniton making divisions.
freakshow10mm
October 18, 2009, 07:30 PM
I am a commercial ammunition manufacturer. I hire at $8/hr. Must be 21yo, no criminal record, and I encourage carrying a firearm on company premises.
GP100man
October 18, 2009, 07:46 PM
freakshow
the commute would kill me!!!!
the commute would kill me!!!!
Friendly, Don't Fire!
October 18, 2009, 07:58 PM
If it were close enough, I'd be willing to pay them to work there, just for the fascination of it all!
freakshow10mm
October 18, 2009, 08:14 PM
Even farther out next year. I'm looking to open a factory in Nevada.
SSN Vet
October 18, 2009, 09:40 PM
I'm looking to open a factory in Nevada.
what gives Freak??
getting tired of those Michigan taxes?
or did you decide that actually seeing the sun between Nov. and April might be interesting.
what gives Freak??
getting tired of those Michigan taxes?
or did you decide that actually seeing the sun between Nov. and April might be interesting.
freakshow10mm
October 18, 2009, 10:38 PM
My customer base is in California so I'm going to move closer to them and my suppliers to cut costs and increase profit. Shipping to Fresno where my distributor is costs $1400/pallet.
Basically, we are both 07/02s and will operate our companies as separate entities locally like the status quo for our local customers. We will both run our separate companies but both have a 50/50 share in the corporation we are forming. The corporation is basically just for wholesale and LE stuff. Retail sales will be handled by our own companies separately at our own shops. He will have his retail gun shop in Fresno and my building in NV will have my factory, my retail shop up front, plus house the corporate offices.
That's the overview and I don't want to reveal much more before everything is finalized. We are going to SHOT in January, half to check it out and half to shop for commercial property with our investors.
Basically, we are both 07/02s and will operate our companies as separate entities locally like the status quo for our local customers. We will both run our separate companies but both have a 50/50 share in the corporation we are forming. The corporation is basically just for wholesale and LE stuff. Retail sales will be handled by our own companies separately at our own shops. He will have his retail gun shop in Fresno and my building in NV will have my factory, my retail shop up front, plus house the corporate offices.
That's the overview and I don't want to reveal much more before everything is finalized. We are going to SHOT in January, half to check it out and half to shop for commercial property with our investors.
qajaq59
October 19, 2009, 06:08 AM
Freakshow, best of luck with the move and the new corp. And I know what you mean about the shipping. Oh boy do I know!
MissouriBullet
October 19, 2009, 07:31 AM
My customer base is in California so I'm going to move closer to them and my suppliers to cut costs and increase profit. Shipping to Fresno where my distributor is costs $1400/pallet.
Basically, we are both 07/02s and will operate our companies as separate entities locally like the status quo for our local customers. We will both run our separate companies but both have a 50/50 share in the corporation we are forming. The corporation is basically just for wholesale and LE stuff. Retail sales will be handled by our own companies separately at our own shops. He will have his retail gun shop in Fresno and my building in NV will have my factory, my retail shop up front, plus house the corporate offices.
That's the overview and I don't want to reveal much more before everything is finalized. We are going to SHOT in January, half to check it out and half to shop for commercial property with our investors.
Hey, could you save us a little corner in the back of your factory and we'll set up "Nevada Bullet Company?"
Basically, we are both 07/02s and will operate our companies as separate entities locally like the status quo for our local customers. We will both run our separate companies but both have a 50/50 share in the corporation we are forming. The corporation is basically just for wholesale and LE stuff. Retail sales will be handled by our own companies separately at our own shops. He will have his retail gun shop in Fresno and my building in NV will have my factory, my retail shop up front, plus house the corporate offices.
That's the overview and I don't want to reveal much more before everything is finalized. We are going to SHOT in January, half to check it out and half to shop for commercial property with our investors.
Hey, could you save us a little corner in the back of your factory and we'll set up "Nevada Bullet Company?"
MissouriBullet
October 19, 2009, 07:36 AM
I was just wondering how much you could make working for an ammo company to load ammo. Maybe bulletsmithing or something. How could i get a job like that. and Who would best hire me
We hire in at minimum wage for casters and lubrisizing technicians, knowing that minimal training up to the basic competence level takes 4 weeks with proficiency kicking in at 6-8 weeks. During the first 4 weeks of the training period we have to melt most of the bullets back down due to bad casting techniques caused by inattention or just plain stupidity.
We let half the prospects go during the first 4 weeks. They turn out to either not be smart enough to learn from their mistakes or they are unable to handle the pressure without cracking.
After that, we do regular step increases based upon both competence and ability to meet production goals.
Our base requirements are in line with Freak's with the addition that employees must be registered voters.
Brad
We hire in at minimum wage for casters and lubrisizing technicians, knowing that minimal training up to the basic competence level takes 4 weeks with proficiency kicking in at 6-8 weeks. During the first 4 weeks of the training period we have to melt most of the bullets back down due to bad casting techniques caused by inattention or just plain stupidity.
We let half the prospects go during the first 4 weeks. They turn out to either not be smart enough to learn from their mistakes or they are unable to handle the pressure without cracking.
After that, we do regular step increases based upon both competence and ability to meet production goals.
Our base requirements are in line with Freak's with the addition that employees must be registered voters.
Brad
freakshow10mm
October 19, 2009, 09:34 AM
Will see about taking on other businesses. You would operate as you do now, but in our building. Most likely the investors would say anyone we bring in would have to be self financing, like the Subway in Walmart kind of thing.
The way my associate and I have been operating the past year, is pretty much a gentleman's co-op. We piggyback off each other's accounts with suppliers, buy in bulk together, and implement plans together.
Any special projects we collaborate on. I helped him flood Saiga 12 shotguns to California last winter. He bought them and had them shipped to me and I made them CA legal with parts he sent. I made a small handling fee per gun and he made a killing on the sales. We did that for 6 months before the competition came in. By that time we had dropped that when sales were slowing and moved on to another project. By the time the competition comes in with that, we're onto the next one. Fun trying to see your competition try and catch up. The one thing that makes this thing successful is we can change with the market very quickly. A week or two is all we need and our competition is spinning their tires.
The way my associate and I have been operating the past year, is pretty much a gentleman's co-op. We piggyback off each other's accounts with suppliers, buy in bulk together, and implement plans together.
Any special projects we collaborate on. I helped him flood Saiga 12 shotguns to California last winter. He bought them and had them shipped to me and I made them CA legal with parts he sent. I made a small handling fee per gun and he made a killing on the sales. We did that for 6 months before the competition came in. By that time we had dropped that when sales were slowing and moved on to another project. By the time the competition comes in with that, we're onto the next one. Fun trying to see your competition try and catch up. The one thing that makes this thing successful is we can change with the market very quickly. A week or two is all we need and our competition is spinning their tires.
MissouriBullet
October 19, 2009, 09:41 AM
Will see about taking on other businesses. You would operate as you do now, but in our building. Most likely the investors would say anyone we bring in would have to be self financing, like the Subway in Walmart kind of thing.
The way my associate and I have been operating the past year, is pretty much a gentleman's co-op. We piggyback off each other's accounts with suppliers, buy in bulk together, and implement plans together.
Any special projects we collaborate on. I helped him flood Saiga 12 shotguns to California last winter. He bought them and had them shipped to me and I made them CA legal with parts he sent. I made a small handling fee per gun and he made a killing on the sales. We did that for 6 months before the competition came in. By that time we had dropped that when sales were slowing and moved on to another project. By the time the competition comes in with that, we're onto the next one. Fun trying to see your competition try and catch up. The one thing that makes this thing successful is we can change with the market very quickly. A week or two is all we need and our competition is spinning their tires.
Well actually, I was kidding :-) We are very happy here in Missouri and any expansions we undertake will happen here.
You have an excellent model! Being small and smart allows you to be nimble and able to out-maneuver the competition. Much, in fact, as the marsupials did when they decided to start eating dinosaur eggs. A tasty, nutritious treat, plus it let them drive the larger reptiles into extinction. Well, that and the 100-gigaton meteor that hit the Earth :-)
Brad
The way my associate and I have been operating the past year, is pretty much a gentleman's co-op. We piggyback off each other's accounts with suppliers, buy in bulk together, and implement plans together.
Any special projects we collaborate on. I helped him flood Saiga 12 shotguns to California last winter. He bought them and had them shipped to me and I made them CA legal with parts he sent. I made a small handling fee per gun and he made a killing on the sales. We did that for 6 months before the competition came in. By that time we had dropped that when sales were slowing and moved on to another project. By the time the competition comes in with that, we're onto the next one. Fun trying to see your competition try and catch up. The one thing that makes this thing successful is we can change with the market very quickly. A week or two is all we need and our competition is spinning their tires.
Well actually, I was kidding :-) We are very happy here in Missouri and any expansions we undertake will happen here.
You have an excellent model! Being small and smart allows you to be nimble and able to out-maneuver the competition. Much, in fact, as the marsupials did when they decided to start eating dinosaur eggs. A tasty, nutritious treat, plus it let them drive the larger reptiles into extinction. Well, that and the 100-gigaton meteor that hit the Earth :-)
Brad
oneounceload
October 19, 2009, 10:30 AM
Freakshow - there's some small bullet makers just outside of Carson City in Storey county - next day delivery to all but the most extreme parts of CA, low taxes. (Used to live in Carson)....goodluck
qajaq59
October 19, 2009, 10:49 AM
And if it were to come to an onslaught by a lawyer, I would simply maintain that the job requires a minimum IQ for the safety and protection of both the company and the employee, and so the display of an Obama sticker just saved us the expense of administering a standardized IQ test ;-) Oh sure, make me spill my coffee. It's hard not to when I'm rolling on the floor. :D:D
calaverasslim
October 19, 2009, 11:19 AM
Ya outta think about moving to S. Tx. I cud work for you and the commute wouldn't be that bad. No state taxes, pro-gun attitude and lots of customers.
+ lot of emplyees to pick from, lots more people than jobs available.
We had one that retired and closed up shop, now the closest is Houston
+ lot of emplyees to pick from, lots more people than jobs available.
We had one that retired and closed up shop, now the closest is Houston
freakshow10mm
October 19, 2009, 11:47 AM
TX doesn't allow open carry so that's a no go.
shibbykins
October 19, 2009, 12:35 PM
I wish TX allowed open carry. ESPECIALLY in El Paso. freak and Missouri you guys are top notch Keep up the good work and good luck with the new expansions! this threads been very informative.
Jeff H
October 19, 2009, 08:03 PM
TX doesn't allow open carry so that's a no go.
hmmmm, out of all 50 states, I would have thought that Texas would be one of the last to ban open carry...Heck you could still drink a beer while you drove down the road until about 15 years ago or so... :banghead:
hmmmm, out of all 50 states, I would have thought that Texas would be one of the last to ban open carry...Heck you could still drink a beer while you drove down the road until about 15 years ago or so... :banghead:
freakshow10mm
October 19, 2009, 08:04 PM
Texas isn't all it's cracked up to be. Indiana has a lifetime permit and higher per capita CCW permits with less no carry places to start with.
freakshow10mm
October 19, 2009, 08:09 PM
Carson City is looking good too. That's only a 5hr drive to Fresno versus the 7hrs from Vegas.
Walkalong
October 20, 2009, 08:55 PM
Yes...& no. ;)
Claude Clay
October 20, 2009, 09:10 PM
i rather thought you ment to load my magazines for me.....
its also the upside of bringing my daughter with me to the range
and she works for ammo
its also the upside of bringing my daughter with me to the range
and she works for ammo
Roccobro
October 21, 2009, 01:13 AM
And I was EXCITED reading this tread as it grew (on topic of course) :(
Justin
Justin
Jeff White
October 21, 2009, 02:20 AM
Politics is off topic at THR, why did this thread go on so long before someone hit the report this post button?
Roccobro
October 21, 2009, 02:43 AM
I think we were all in shock. The Reloading forum is the nicest place on THR. It was like I was a sheep again... unable to look away from the carnage or think of the children! lol
Back ON-topic:
MB- Your a 24hour facility right? 8 hour shifts? Any days actually resting?
How about your operation Freakshow? How often do those Camdex machines need attention from a min. wage earner to keep going?
Justin
Back ON-topic:
MB- Your a 24hour facility right? 8 hour shifts? Any days actually resting?
How about your operation Freakshow? How often do those Camdex machines need attention from a min. wage earner to keep going?
Justin
gorfle
October 21, 2009, 10:54 AM
Sorry for derailing your thread.
freakshow10mm
October 22, 2009, 11:29 AM
I don't run Camdex yet. I will be if/when I move to NV. The maintenance will be done by the shop manager. They just don't get to walk around barking orders and hold a clip board. That's my job.;) If I can talk the investors into the machinery I want, I will have a full time maintenance guy on staff. But we're talking a few hundred thousand dollars in machinery plus inspection equipment. I'm sure if we buy all at once we can get a deal on stuff. One of the things on my list to do at SHOT this year. Most likely keep things normal and run automated 1050s with bullet feeders, one per cartridge.
FROGO207
October 22, 2009, 01:35 PM
Freakshow
Be careful and go slowly I don't want you to grow so fast that you put Remington out of business. It sounds like you have it all in line. Good plan and ambition, rarely seen as of late.
Be careful and go slowly I don't want you to grow so fast that you put Remington out of business. It sounds like you have it all in line. Good plan and ambition, rarely seen as of late.
freakshow10mm
October 22, 2009, 03:16 PM
Not bad for a guy started out in his garage with a 550 two years ago, eh?
qajaq59
October 22, 2009, 03:35 PM
Not bad for a guy started out in his garage with a 550 two years ago, eh? Yup, that $550 and about a ton and a half of sweat likely got you where you are now.
I remember my brother starting a business and working 18 hours a day without a vacation for about 15 years. Than when he finally got very wealthy someone told me he was "Just Lucky". I was so mad I practically ripped the guy's head off for it.
I remember my brother starting a business and working 18 hours a day without a vacation for about 15 years. Than when he finally got very wealthy someone told me he was "Just Lucky". I was so mad I practically ripped the guy's head off for it.
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