Glock newbie question


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Grayrider
November 4, 2003, 08:57 AM
Gents,

I recently acquired a couple police trade Glock 20s. I only had time to shoot one, and while it ran 100% I found it hard to hit anything. I am used to 1911s, so I chalked it up to that. When I picked up the second one I noticed the rear sight is drifted way to the left. In examining the first one closely I noticed it is off just slightly as well. Now perhaps the previous owners knew something I don't, but that led me to wonder if Glock sights typically need to be drifted from the factory setting (which I assume to be dead center)?

My experience with handguns in general has been that good ones are usually on from the factory, and when people start drifting them it is usually compensating for bad shooting habits rather than actually correcting the sights. I am tempted to put them both back on center before hitting the range again. Of course I have had a couple pistols that were exceptions.

GR

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49hudson
November 4, 2003, 09:23 AM
are difficult for most shooters to master. The usual is for a right hander to shoot low left. Some drift the sight instead of learning how to shoot it effectively.
In my experience with the seven Glocks I have owned, all are dead center out of the box.

Grayrider
November 4, 2003, 09:28 AM
My thoughts exactly. I am guessing the fellows who were issued them rarely shot them from the looks of the internals, so they probably "fixed" the sights rather than learned the gun. I think I will scoot them back to center and go from there.

GR

Nero Steptoe
November 4, 2003, 10:18 AM
I've installed a lot of night sights on Glocks, and I always center the rear sight. Try "staging" the first trigger pull, then shooting subsequent shots from the reset position. (After the first shot, hold the trigger back, then release it slowly, until you feel the "click" of the reset. Then shoot subsequent shots the same way. Don't let the trigger all the way back out.)

You might also want to consider trying polishing the moving parts of the firing mechanism and installing a 3.5# connector.

Grayrider
November 4, 2003, 11:11 AM
I put in one of the Glockmeister match trigger assemblies with the set screw. Wow! Big difference. I am not sure the pull now, but it is vastly better than the NY trigger both guns came with. The set screw got rid of all the over travel. It just breaks and stops. Still not the 1911 pull I am used to, but pretty darn good. I had that in before shooting, so I think the sights being off could be the issue. It is just a hair off center.

GR

treeprof
November 4, 2003, 11:20 AM
IME w/5 Glocks, 3 were dead center or darn close to it, one needed drifting a hair left, one a lot to the right. They're usually close, but not always.

MolonLabe416
November 4, 2003, 11:49 AM
The grip frame on the G20 is way too big for most shooters. Arizona Response Systems, Dane Burns, and Robar can all do a grip reduction which should help.

Other than that, it's just a matter of trigger time. The Glock trigger is odd and takes some work to master, especially if you are transisitoning from a 1911.

You mght consider combining a NY1 trigger with a 3.5 lb spring. This gives about ~5 lbs, shortens trigger reset time, and gives a different feel. This is what I run on both my G23s and I prefer it to the factory setup.

Grayrider
November 4, 2003, 12:24 PM
I actually find the frame quite comfortable. I have pretty long fingers, so no biggie there. Dimensionally it is pretty comfortable considering I have 15 rounds of 10mm stuffed in there.

I am thinking the trigger is around 3.5 to 4 lbs with the Glockmeister kit installed, and it is really smooth. While the take up is going to require some getting used to, it got the break to where it feels pretty 1911-like.

Don't say "transitioning to a Glock"! Cannot betray John Browning.... must resist....1911s are the best pistol ever..... fighting urge to buy another Glock.....

:D

Brigrat
November 4, 2003, 02:31 PM
We are issued Glock 22's at work, I have found three in the past month missing either of their two sights completely. We have since started replacing all of the sights on our pistols with Night sights (medal not plastic like factory). Glock factory sights stink in my opinion, but they are easy and cheap to replace, and the replacement sights seem to work great.

TonyB
November 4, 2003, 03:26 PM
The hardest thing for me was a consistant trigger pull....my other auto(tauruspt99) I always shoot SA(it's one that can go C&L)..so it took a little to get ised to it,but now it's POA ..I hade a Colt Combat Commander that I shot low and to the right(I'm Lefty).....and that's SA...so I don't know what that deal was....if I slowed down it was OK.......I use my G17 for IDPA now and it's great.:cool:

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