Going to Disney ...
axeman_g
November 4, 2003, 11:42 AM
Is their a CCW reciprocity between Ga and Florida ... and can you legally carry in Disney World? Any local want to give some advice on carry in Fla?
How about the best place to get park tickets also .....
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CZ-100
November 4, 2003, 11:55 AM
Yes FL has reciprocity with GA.
Visit the following site:
Packing.org (http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/florida)
As far as carring in the land of the RAT, I do not know.
obiwan1
November 4, 2003, 11:57 AM
I think recrocity exists between FL and GA. Check out www.packing.org
they are excellent and will link you to the appropriate state websites. The last time I was at any of the Orlando parks, there was no prob carrying. Just be very discreet. I use IWB or pocket holsters when "doing Disney".
foghornl
November 4, 2003, 12:01 PM
And avoid the flip ya upside down/turn your guts insdie-out roller-coasters...:barf:
Sunray
November 4, 2003, 12:35 PM
As far I know, Disney is as anti-firearm as Sarah Brady. They have done more to discredit hunters than any other company. Why would you want to give them your money?
TonyB
November 4, 2003, 12:38 PM
Call to see if they have metal detectors too....
Spieler
November 4, 2003, 12:57 PM
GA and FL do have reciprocity and it's a boon as I travel between the states often. The last time I was at the them parks in June they do a hand search of all purses, backpacks, FANNY PACKS and shopping bags and there are lots of Orange County Sherriff deputies mulling around the turnstyles. I personally have not carried CCW in the parks but I do seem to recall POSTED SIGNS in the ticket window and turnstyle areas prohibiing any weapons on the properties (this was at Sea World and Disney's EPCOT). Best to check again once you get there.
HankB
November 4, 2003, 01:06 PM
Disney and its leadership are anti-gun. I understand they've even gone so far as to remove prop guns from their exhibits. I don't know why you'd want to go someplace expensive just so you could stand in one line after another.
If you MUST go, and if you're going to have young children along, make sure you don't go on Disney Gay Day. Otherwise you might have to answer questions like "Daddy, why are those two men kissing?" or "Daddy, why is that man wearing a miniskirt?"
semf
November 4, 2003, 01:17 PM
I have never seen signs posted anywhere in Fla execpt gunshops. As far as I know, from friends working there they do not frisk anybody, but they do check bags. And in Fla all they can do is ask you to leave. And Sherrif Berry is pro gun. Park in the parking lot, remember which one and wait for the tram. Check out Olde Town while you're here. Don't open your door for the pizza man and be careful at the hotel (keep your gun hand free in the parking lot).
There used to be a gun range on I-drive near isney where you could shoot ClassIII but I don't think it's there any more other than that stay off I-Drive nothin but tourist crap down there.
Let me know if you need any more info I've lived here most of my life and grew up as a Disney brat.
hso
November 4, 2003, 01:21 PM
Disney has a no firearms policy. There are no exceptions. They are polite and professional about it and will lock your handgun up for you and give you a receipt.
Willard
November 4, 2003, 04:32 PM
They also search your bags before you can get in, although they don't search your person. IIRC, there are no visible metal detectors at the gates or security points.
Standing Wolf
November 4, 2003, 05:34 PM
Is that the same Disney that's investing millions of dollars in that Moore creature's next film?
Alan Fud
November 4, 2003, 05:44 PM
I have visited Disney at LEAST twice a year from mid-1999 until mid-2003 and I've been armed every single time.
They do check bags but if your firearm is concealed, they shouldn't be able to find it and as of this past summer, there were no metal detectors.
Additionally, Florida state law prohibits local & county governments from enacting their own gun laws. So any signs posted would not be legally valid.
Finally, if caught carrying a firearm, the only thing that they could do is ask you to leave. If you refused to comply, then you have a problem and could be charged with armed trespassing.
DDGator
November 4, 2003, 06:41 PM
I have small kids and go to Disney and Universal Studios Orlando frequently. I have never seen a "no weapons" sign (minor exception -- keep reading) and I have looked. There are no metal detectors. Half-witted security guards visually check inside bags and purses, including fanny packs. Pocket or IWB carry will get by easily. If there are no signs -- its not illegal.
Exception -- the night-time Halloween events (Horror nights at Universal Studios and Hollow-Scream at Busch Gardens) are much higher security and usually do have metal detectors and "no weapons" signs. I had a bad experience (described on the Firing Line) trying to check a legal CCW at Universal Horror Nights.
I pocket carry in theme parks regularly.
Oleg Volk
November 4, 2003, 06:55 PM
Otherwise you might have to answer questions like "Daddy, why are those two men kissing?" or "Daddy, why is that man wearing a miniskirt?"
Easier to answer that than to answer equally reasonable questions like "Why do people in the Middle East kill each other?" or "Why do politicians insist on being entitled to half of my daddy's paycheck?"
;)
TarpleyG
November 4, 2003, 06:59 PM
As long as you carry IWB and don't ride anything too crazy that might result in you losing your gun, you're okay. There is no state law against carrying there but they will ask you to leave if spotted. If you decide not to carry it, DO NOT LEAVE IT IN THE CAR. You'll come back to a broken-in car and a missing handgun. Best bet if going that route is to leave it in the hotel room safe.
GT
Lone_Gunman
November 4, 2003, 08:45 PM
Disney has a "no firearms" policy in their theme parks, but it isn't actually posted anywhere.
They search your bags before letting you in, but not your person, so if you are carrying concealed, they will never know. The bag search is laughable. There are no metal detectors. As long as you keep your gun concealed, no one will be the wiser, and if they do discover you have a gun, they won't ask you to leave unless you refuse to let them lock it up for you.
HankB, you are spreading misinformation about Disney. I have no doubt that their liberal leadership is anti-gun, but you are wrong about a few things. All the gun props are still there. They still sell toy guns at WDW. You also imply there is some kind of official Disney Gay Day, and there is simply no such thing officially organized by Disney. Yes, the gay community organizes days where a lot of gay people congregate at WDW, but this is not officially sanctioned. Disney has no control or involvement with it.
rock jock
November 4, 2003, 08:58 PM
Disney is pretty left-leaning and very liberal on most social issues, but little kids don't understand those issues nor do they care. They enjoy what is truly a wonderful experience. I don't know of a single other venue that compares to it. As for two men kissing, I doubt you would see it but if your kids do, I'm sure you would have a good answer. I know I would.
Baba Louie
November 4, 2003, 09:12 PM
Don't know anbout DisneyWorld in Orlando, but I do know that I've carried every time I go to DisneyLand in Orange Co. CA on person, not in fanny pack. They've also done away with the shooting of the hippo on the Adventureland boat ride for PC sake.
Boys could still buy the plastic swords and Davy Crocket long guns last time I went, but who knows nowadays? Fess Parker must be wondering what happened in the last 50 years, eh?
Adios
DorGunR
November 4, 2003, 09:16 PM
Isn't Disney World a people trap operated by a mouse? :scrutiny:
SoCalGeek
November 4, 2003, 09:30 PM
HankB- Will ignore the somewhat offensive stereotyped comments and agree with Lone_Gunman
Axeman_g- If you are actually worried about showing up on GayDay, i believe the florida one is some time in July. Don't quote me on that, i'd check www.gayday.com to be sure (Or if you're squeamish about going there, i'll check it when i get a chance.)
semf
November 4, 2003, 09:44 PM
Gay Days will be around the first week of June. So if you don't want to answer the questions such as why are those men holding hands ? or why are those other people out front with signs saying hateful, scary things? schedule your trip around them. June in Fla is not the best time to spend the day outside, better than August tho. Oct Nov or Dec are the best months
SteelyDan
November 5, 2003, 01:32 AM
I was at DisneyWorld at the end of March, and there were no signs, but I knew from online sources that guns officially are not permited, and they did a fairly thorough search of camera bags and other carry bags at the entrances. However, contrary to some of the rumors then circulating, the pirates in the Pirates of the Caribbean were still sporting firearms aplenty. Aye, matey--more rum.
HankB
November 5, 2003, 12:36 PM
Lone_Gunman wrote:HankB, you are spreading misinformation about Disney. I have no doubt that their liberal leadership is anti-gun, but you are wrong about a few things. All the gun props are still there. They still sell toy guns at WDW. I based my "misinformation" on what I read in the following thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6004&highlight=Disney
So there seems to be some difference of opinion on what's going on. (Though there DOES seem to be agreement that the hippo isn't being "shot" any more.)
And as for GayDay . . . several years ago, my cousin had the misfortune to be there with her family when it happened. The displays they saw were more offensive than mentioned in my "somewhat offensive stereotyped comments" and not at all what she expected when taking her kids to Disney.
RustyHammer
November 5, 2003, 12:39 PM
Let me guess, you're taking your MOUSE GUN! :neener:
axeman_g
November 5, 2003, 04:39 PM
What an interesting bunch of replies ...
of course my favorite was RustyHammers ... and no. I am not taking my mouse gun, I dont own one anymore ... The Walther P22 would have been great though.
I actually thought CCW would be totally verbotten in DW. I am suprised, maybe they actually think their customers are responsible little mousegunteers ....
I was also hopping you all in the are might have some good ideas on where to get cheap tix to DW.
Also, how about some shooting ranges or gun stores to visit while I am in area. I am staying on Independence at the Sheraton Vistana Resort.
DDGator
November 5, 2003, 04:45 PM
I usually have an annual pass when I go... rarely buy a one-day ticket.
You can sometimes get discounted tickets through AAA. They have a lot of specials on multiple day passes -- but that is usually only for Florida residents.
Buy a "Park Hopper" type pass though -- lets you jump between parks on any given day -- a nice feature.
Beware the "Cheap Disney Tickets" type signs you see on the way down. They are cheap for a reason -- they want to sell you a vacation timeshare, etc. -- not worth the time and effort in my opinion.
DDGator -- who is a Mouse expert, although not necessarily proud of it.
SoCalGeek
November 7, 2003, 07:31 PM
HankB- My bad, i said that based on the fact that i've been to the California one the last two years and they keep it pretty tame. And if your cousin had the misfortune of having to see a man in a miniskirt (That was really the only comment that bothered me), I am truly truly sorry. It's a fate nobody should have to experience. Anime Convention, don't ask. =P Anyways, a lot of public attention has fallen on the whole Gay Day thing lately, so i'm sure the organizers try VERY hard to keep it clean. But either way, axeman knows when it is and so does everyone else so they can avoid it if they choose to do so. By the way, the California Gay Day event is the first weekend of October, in case anybody needs to know for planning trips.
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