Rossi 38 Snubbie. Opinions


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Noveldoc
October 25, 2009, 01:35 PM
Thinking about a Rossi 38 spl snubbie for CCW and light training use. Anybody know anything about these guns? The manufacturer?

Thanks,

Tom

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pbearperry
October 25, 2009, 01:58 PM
I owner a Rossi years ago with a 3 inch barrel in stainless.I thought it was a pretty nice gun all in all.In fact,I would say that old Rossi was probably as well made as modern S&W revolvers.

gmh1013
October 25, 2009, 02:54 PM
I have a 2 inch snub with about 400 rounds through it....so far so good.
I does not like cheap CCI lead rounds and I had a problems with lead in barrel
but with copper no problems and it pretty darn good shooting little gun.
Oh the firing pin broke and cost me 20 bucks to have it fixed....but the replacement seems to be lots better then the first.

Confederate
October 25, 2009, 03:27 PM
I have a Rossi 88 with a 3-inch barrel, and it's far better than any of the Tauruses I've had. I've owned a number of the 88s in my day, and they were all well made, accurate and tight. Unlike some of the Taurus revolvers I'd seen, the 88s had throated chambers! (The Taurus 66 and one of their small snubbies, back in the late 80s, seem to have been drilled straight through. Even large cast lead bullets dropped through the chambers without slowing down and dropped out the other ends.)

The 3-inch model Rossi is the perfect size, and they could take +P .38 in a pinch with no trouble. I also have a S&W 60 2-inch, but I've never carried it, as I prefer the extra inch on the 88's tube.

I also have two Rossi .22LR revolvers, and they're very much like the S&W kit guns (63), only they have ejector shrouds and sport stainless steel sights.

Taurus seems to make very pretty, polished guns, but too many of the ones I've owned had excessive gaps and spaces that needed to be tighter. The Rossis, OTOH, don't have all the spit and polish the Tauruses do, but they seem to be better, more accurate guns.

It took me a year or two to stop trusting the gun magazines and their specially prepared ringers, and to find forums even back in the CP/M days of computing.

So I give a thumbs up to Rossi if you can get one at a reasonable price.

JJ Hiryuu
October 25, 2009, 05:37 PM
"even back in the CP/M days of computing. "

I think you just dated yourself!

I've always kind of wondered if any programmer got sneaky and wrote ballistics software for his new hunting loads for the machines like the PDP-8.

But I'm off subject.

DNS
October 25, 2009, 09:26 PM
I've been carrying one of the new Rossi 351 snubs in .38 for 6 months now and it works as well as any of my Smiths did in the past. My 9yr old daughter loves shooting it. A good knockoff of the S&W 36 for a lot less.

Mike

Noveldoc
October 25, 2009, 10:54 PM
It's available through Davidson's and they say they have a lifetime replacement guarantee. Anybody know anything about that?

Tom

InkEd
October 25, 2009, 11:06 PM
They are now owned by taurus.

Mark whiz
October 26, 2009, 02:21 AM
I've got an old Rossi Model 68 2" snubbie I picked up 2nd or 3rd hand 7 years ago and it hasn't given me any trouble at all. I've probably put 400 to 500 rds thru it of various manufacture and my own handloads - and I really have no clue of it's previous life before me.................although it seemed to have very little wear on it.

I'm happy with the thing and I carry it most of the time when I carry - much more convienent than my 4" Security Six or my full-size 1911-A1.

Elvishead
October 26, 2009, 03:37 AM
buy it

MCgunner
October 26, 2009, 11:04 AM
As for the Taurus bashing, I have 3 Taurus revolvers that will make a grown Smith and Wesson cry with their accuracy. I have a M511 .22 Rossi and an old (bought in 1981) M68 that are Smith and Wesson quality. But, quality varied over the years. It's up in the last 10 years. I've owned several others in the past that were not well fitted or finished, tooling marks here and there, that sort of thing. They functioned well, though. Broken firing pins are STILL a problem with 'em, though. I've had that in the past on a 971, 4" .357 mag. Sent it back to Interarms and it snapped on the second shot at the range. Took it to a smith and had him fix it and it never gave me a problem again. I'm not sure if he fitted a K frame pin or what. He told me (it needed proper fitting). Whatever. But, Rossi has never seemed to put much attention on the firing pins. That's my main gripe with 'em. I carry my Taurus 85UL. With all the firing pin problems with the Rossis in the past and what I read now days, I hesitate to use that old 68 as a carry. I have shot it a lot, but I just don't trust the firing pin. I carry it afield sometimes as a .38 kit gun. I bought it back in the day for my step dad so I could get my grandpa's M10 back that he'd willed me. So, I'm not going to sell it, a few memories in it. Besides, it's an unusually (for Rossi) well finished gun with deep, beautiful bluing and J frame fit, a nice looking and shooting gun.

I love that M511 .22, very accurate little kit gun, all stainless, very rugged field gun. I have many 550 packs of Federal through that gun. It gets fired nearly every range trip and I sometimes carry it on trips to the field. That one has a frame mounted firing pin and it's never given me a problem.

Nathanael_Greene
October 26, 2009, 02:20 PM
Thinking about a Rossi 38 spl snubbie for CCW and light training use. Anybody know anything about these guns? The manufacturer?

I'm a big fan of Rossi revolvers; never had a problem with one in 20 years of owning and shooting them.

That being said, there are lemons in every manufactured product, so if you're thinking of buying used, check it thoroughly, especially if you're going to rely on it to save your life. (Of course, I'd give the same advice for any concealed-carry weapon.)

bedwards1
October 26, 2009, 02:31 PM
I've carried (and shot) a model 68 snub for years without a glitch. It likes everything I feed it except 148gr lead wadutters for some reason. I trust mine.

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Confederate
October 26, 2009, 03:07 PM
The firing pin issue alone would give me pause. My Rossis have been not as finely finished as my Smiths, but after losing my beloved 63, I replaced it with two Rossi 511s for about the same price. Now I would never trade them for a 63, but dang, I still miss my 63.

Likewise, I like my 88 actually more than my S&W 60. Why? They both have tight, springy actions, but my 88 has a 3-inch barrel, while the 60 has only a 2-. And the Rossi has a rock solid lockup, while the 60 has just a bit of play when cocked. Both fit in my front pocket, and oh yes, almost forgot, the fixed sights on my 88 are much more visible, though they stick out a bit more.

The Rossis still aren't Smiths, mind you, but I'd still rather have two of them over one S&W!

Nicky Santoro
October 26, 2009, 04:19 PM
I've had a M68 for about twenty years. It was bought as a spare house gun. It's not a Smith in terms of fit and finish but it was only $150 NIB and has never had a problem.

Elvishead
November 15, 2009, 05:46 AM
You didn't buy it, your living us all hanging!

gmh1013
November 15, 2009, 01:14 PM
The firing pin broke again yesterday after 250 rounds....I will send back to Taurus and wait 2 months to get back and then sell it.
The pin to me is the weakest link on the revolver....look at one and you will see.
Rossi reaaly needs to address this issue before I buy another one.....even at 250.00 bucks.....its a big show stopper

snooperman
November 15, 2009, 02:06 PM
I like it a great deal. I have shot hundreds of rounds through it without any problems. From time to time I have heard some disparaging remarks concerning Rossi guns but I do not share those views at all. I have a .357 magnum model 971 that goes in the woods with me frequently and it is a fantastic gun for the money. My brother bought the 6 shot .357 461 and he likes it very much. If I am not mistaken I think they still have a lifetime warranty on their revolvers.

bikerdoc
November 15, 2009, 02:14 PM
Had one, good carry piece for the money.
Got top dollar on a trade for a security six

nicksterdemus
January 7, 2010, 11:46 AM
Well, I thought I'd raise this thread from near death. I bought a 3" Rossi 38spl, Made by Taurus as part of the Brazil tech LLC outa Miami.

These aren't listed on the Rossi website as they are a distributor special. Sure they'll match anyones price coz nobody save Academy Sports carries them.

Actually for $229 sale price and $249 regular it didn't seem to be that bad of a deal. Thes appear in all likelyhood to be Taurus 85 clones.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/

21_50_494/products_id/31337

Trigger and hammer seem to be slightly different in the pic, but otherwise a dead ringer, exception to Taurus goodyear vs Rossi rubber, and they want $327 delivered.

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=135&category=1&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

Note that the thumb release pictured didn't come on the gun. The one that's on the previous Taurus pic is the style used. Mix n match I reckon.

It wouldn't be worth for me to pay shipping for a firing pin fix if I encounter that problem.

I'd take to my gunsmith 1st.

However, for those that do ship I think the trick is to buy two and shoot the other one while you're waiting on the first one to be fixed. Make sure the fixed one functions then put it up and keep shooting the spare till it fails.

I haven't shot it. but the guys in Miami say it'll shoot +P as long as it's a steel revolver. Comes kinda dripping of oil and I figure some might be on the sear & hammer coz the SA is a hair trigger.

Anywho, for under 250 OTD, 5-rnd, steel 38spl w/3" brl seems OK.

YMMV

MCgunner
January 7, 2010, 12:20 PM
The Rossi uses the Smith style hammer mounted firing pin and hammer block. The Taurus' action is transfer bar and floating firing pin. Not the same gun at all. The Taurus has a much better DA trigger on the average, too. The Rossi is basically a Smith M36 clone in design, what it is closest to, not the Taurus.

When I had that firing pin issue, I think it cost me 25 bucks to get it fixed at a good gunsmith's. The fix actually FIXED it, too. :rolleyes: I'd sent it back to Interarms and it broke on the first cylinder. Now days, shipping is a lot more expensive on a firearm.


Taurus has never used a hammer mounted firing pin. I prefer that. I own and have owned Smiths that never gave me trouble with that feature, as well as other Rossis that didn't. Just sayin'. I've also owned quite a few Rugers and just prefer the transfer bar thing. I'm probably biased, though, as a broken firing pin will make you think thoughts like "what if this was a fire fight with a BG?" Good reason, too, for carrying back up, I guess. The guns are accurate, great range guns, great outdoor guns, I just hesitate to carry one CCW ever since that firing pin incident.

Water-Man
January 7, 2010, 12:28 PM
Rossi manufactures Rossi firearms. Not Taurus.

bdb benzino
January 7, 2010, 08:07 PM
Taurus owns Rossi, use google if you still question everyone!!

nicksterdemus
January 7, 2010, 08:27 PM
Thanks Mc I wasn't that familiar w/Taurus or Rossi for that manner. I do have the bobbed hammer Rossi, 44 spl.
I never knew Taurus used the transfer bar. Never owned one. Thanks for the info.

W-man, all I know is what's pressed on the gun. Says Rossi on the brl and made in Brazil by Taurus on the frame. Of course the side plate has the Rossi stamp. I'm not aware of how much the Brazel tech combo intertwines

Water-Man
January 8, 2010, 01:10 AM
The Taurus people in Miami say that they distribute the Rossi products but Rossi manufactures it in Brazil. Argue with them directly if you so desire.

Confederate
January 8, 2010, 01:28 AM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/Rossi88_4C.jpg

The .38 Spc. has a 3-inch barrel.


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/RossiPistols_2C.jpg

The .22LR one shown with the .38. Both are outstanding guns.

CajunBass
January 8, 2010, 08:57 AM
This is the internet. You won't catch me carrying a gun, any gun, that I didn't spend at least $1,000.00 for and then have lovingly tuned by at least one well known pistolsmith, and then put at least 1,000 rounds of the best ammo through as a checkout.

In the real world, I'm a lot less pickey. ;)

ASCTLC
January 8, 2010, 10:41 AM
I have a pre-Taurus Rossi 971 .357 mag stainless. Only internet claims tell me it's not possible it can be reliable, that I should hate it, and it's barely worth the energy to throw it in the river. Mine performs great.

Another site I frequent is virtually over run with the type of members CajunBass points out. I suspect the majority of them either are full of it and have never actually owned the gun they whine about or I seriously question their handling of said pistol. I have yet to actually meet anyone who's had such bad luck with these, only "internet claims" of such.

I'll qualify that though of the people who buy first generation pistols then the table's turned. Who the hell in their right mind can state - with a straight face - that they aren't actually pleasantly surprised that a first gen, of any mf, is problem free??? Blind faith in a mfr and their first gen anything is putting one's head in the sand and criticism of a first gen failure is as much, or more of, a first gen failure as it is a mfr failure.

The "bought a used xxxxx and it was a piece of crap" claims are especially priceless when the poster has no idea which gen pistol they bought.

my 2 cents on the subject,
Andy

camsdaddy
January 8, 2010, 12:36 PM
I have a 351 that we have had for years. My wife bought it as her first gun and then I later traded her a 3913 TSW S&W for it. ;). Oddly I am carrying it today which is rare normally its a Glock 26. For some reason carrying this revolver just seems right. I have my eye on a Ruger SP101 or a S&W 642. I cant decide if either is signifigantly better than the Rossi. My only complaints are you cant find springs for it if you are trying to smooth it up (just tinkering its fine stock) and I wish I could find smaller grips. Rossi/Taurus customer service was about as helpful as our fed gov when I tried to order springs. I guess S&W and Keltec customer service has me spoiled. I have found some pachmayers I may try but wish I could find maybe wood. We have had this gun for 7+ and never even a hic up.

camsdaddy
January 8, 2010, 03:16 PM
Can anyone tell how the 351 compares size wise to the 642 and SP101.

ATAShooter
January 8, 2010, 03:56 PM
You guys will love this.... My wife is an avid shotgunner (Trap). She just can't grasp the concept of pistol or rifle sights for some reason. She had me have a rib and shotgun beads ( front and Mid, just like her shotgun ) put on her Rossi 68. She can shoot the hell of that thing. I can't hit jack with it. I guess to each his / her own...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ATAShooter/68.jpg

fireside44
January 8, 2010, 05:11 PM
You guys will love this.... My wife is an avid shotgunner (Trap). She just can't grasp the concept of pistol or rifle sights for some reason. She had me have a rib and shotgun beads ( front and Mid, just like her shotgun ) put on her Rossi 68. She can shoot the hell of that thing. I can't hit jack with it. I guess to each his / her own...

Haha, you are right, that's awesome. I should do that for my old lady, she has the same problem. Sounds like a good excuse to buy another Rossi, wouldn't want to modify her model 10.:)

weregunner
January 8, 2010, 05:54 PM
Scoop on the Rossi under discussion by the OP:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=28466.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=12178.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=20084.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=9149.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=19054.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=22756.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=12784.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=9142.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=27266.0

Any discussion about anything other than the Rossi model is irrelevant. The model which would be the 351/352 is under discussion.

If info on the Rossi 461/462 is wanted then there is this.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3873741&postcount=13

Big Bill
January 8, 2010, 07:17 PM
Here's the deal:

ROSSI HISTORY AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Rossi revolution of firearm design and manufacture started with the founding of the company in 1889 by Amadeo Rossi. Over the last 115 years, that tradition has grown along with the company and the Rossi Family. The Rossi name represents a piece of firearm history and a tradition of excellence.

Over the years, Rossi firearms has led the way in design and engineering. At the same time, it has always been important to produce an affordable product without sacrificing any quality or accuracy.

In December of 1997 BrazTech International L.C. was created as the exclusive importer of Rossi firearms in North America.

Previously, Rossi firearms were distributed by Interarms of Alexandria, Virginia. Rossi manufactures its classic rifles in a plant in Sa Leopoldo, Brazil and will continue operations there, selling many firearms outside the United States and North America.

At the same time, Forjas Taurus, S.A. purchased the rights and the equipment to manufacture Rossi handguns. Taurus manufactures three models of .38 Special revolvers and four models of .357 Magnum revolvers under contract with Rossi. Revolvers sold by BrazTech with the Rossi name are manufactured in a brand new facility owned by Taurus in SaoLeopoldo, Brazil. Much of the tooling and many of the machines were acquired from Rossi during negotiations between the companies.

Today's Rossi is still run by the same family and they put the same dedication and innovation into every firearm. At Rossi, it is more than just building guns...it is a family's history and tradition.

http://www.rossiusa.com/history.cfm

MCgunner
January 8, 2010, 07:38 PM
Confederate, your 88 is an older one. Can tell from the rear sight, actually I believe it might be windage adjustable with a tiny screw driver just looking at it, never tried. The 88 I bought in the very early 90s had a fixed sight cast/machined like most snubs, didn't have the little blade. My 68, bought in 1981, has a sight just like yours. My early 90s 88's finish was pretty rough, tooling marks, bad under the hammer. I polished the marks out of the hammer. Fit and finish was a might lacking. Timing was good, but on one cylinder the latch locked almost too late, just did make it. I mean, was well timed, just could tell one cylinder locked in a little later in the hammer throw than the others. My 68, early 80s vintage, is near Smith and Wesson quality fit and finish, VERY nice, timing is impeccable, very tight lock up, and it's very nice. The blade sight might be considered a little more fragile, but it don't stick out like an adjustable. I kinda like it. :D

That gun is nice lookin' in stainless. My 68s blue is very deep and well done, though. I do prefer stainless for carry. I think the older ones like yours and mine seem to have had more attention paid to them. I've seen several other examples. The newer post Taurus ones are also well finished, the one's I've looked at.

MCgunner
January 8, 2010, 07:50 PM
Can anyone tell how the 351 compares size wise to the 642 and SP101.

The SP101 is tank strong, but heavy, about 4 or5 ounces more. The 642 is a lighter gun, about 7 ounces less. All are about the same size. The Rossi is the spittin' image of a 36 Smith, the older ones, anyway. The 642 is the best for a pocket. The SP101 fires a hotter round. The Rossi splits the difference. My 68 has a 3" barrel on it and that really helps with the longer sight radius. If I get another SP101, it'll be a 3"er.

Confederate
January 9, 2010, 12:00 AM
Yes, mine are the Interarms models. Interarms imported some great guns in its day, but some manufacturers cut corners on tolerances. The Virginia Dragoon, for example, was an astounding gun in fit and finish, but the chambers were just sort of drilled through...no real throating. I had two that couldn't hit the broad dide of a barn -- but they were gorgeous. Had a couple of Taurus 66s back in the 80s that also had bad tolerances. I could drop .358 lead bullets into each chamber and they would fall right on through, so it was no mystery that JHPs were all over the paper.

But they were purty. My Rossis have been closer to S&W in performance than any other gun I've tried.

usa59
January 22, 2010, 02:34 AM
I have a rossi 38/357 that i purchased about two yrs ago. Sent it back twice for broken firing pin and a third time for a twisted loose barrel. And still unable after all this time ti find a nicer after market set of grips.

nicksterdemus
January 22, 2010, 10:10 AM
FWIW, I e-mailed Academy Sports and asked about the +P or not on their distributor special 35103. I had called Braztech in Miami and they asked for the serial number and then said yea. The sales clerks at Academy said nay.

It's getting high unto a week since my e-mail.

I've shot a recent Rossi lever mod 92 carbine 44 mag and it was sweet. Well made and looked good. Lever action rifles are fairly labor intensive.

Anything could break and folks generally only holler on the net when there's a problem.

I'm still kickin' myself for not buying the 35103, pre-blk Friday sale @ $199.99.

Now, that was a bargain.

Oddly enough the regular price is 249.99, yet the 35102 is 259.99.

I don't get it coz they charge an extra ten spot for 1" less barrel.

Mr. Whimsy
January 22, 2010, 01:20 PM
I echo your sentiment about the grips on these guns, very ergonomic.

These guns will get you through the night.

My example was a 462 .357 and was a fine revolver with a low round count because frankly I was afraid it would break eventually. This is just my personal theory re: Taurus/Rossi durability, that they just won't hold up under heavy use without parts breakage. Since Taurus service is for masochists, I would prefer to just use these guns lightly in the first place.

If I wanted another snub (I don't because I can't hit with those sights), I would cheerfully buy another Rossi. I actually preferred it to Ruger/S&W products in that category as far as ergonomics, trigger pull, and finish (it was pimp shiny SS, which I like).

brianr23
January 24, 2010, 09:15 AM
Just picked up a Rossi 352, stainless 2" barrel in great condition. A little dirty but I only paid $125 for it. At that price it can ride in the car, on belt or hunting with no worries. Haven't taken it to the range so I still have some testing to do.

shockwave
January 24, 2010, 10:36 AM
In IDPA competition, I've found the Rossi 6 Round 357 Remington Magnum w/4" Barrel/Rubber Grips in stainless to be easier-firing, smoother, and more accurate than the S&W 686. Rossi makes excellent guns and although I haven't shot the snubbie, I'd buy a Rossi firearm with confidence. I've got thousands of rounds through the Rossi and a simple cleaning at the end of the shooting day is all you need to do. I'd trust my life with it.

fireside44
January 24, 2010, 08:52 PM
If you guys keep talking these guns up, it will ruin it for all of us.

I hate my model 720.:)

MCgunner
January 24, 2010, 10:33 PM
Yes, mine are the Interarms models. Interarms imported some great guns in its day, but some manufacturers cut corners on tolerances. The Virginia Dragoon, for example, was an astounding gun in fit and finish, but the chambers were just sort of drilled through...no real throating. I had two that couldn't hit the broad dide of a barn -- but they were gorgeous. Had a couple of Taurus 66s back in the 80s that also had bad tolerances. I could drop .358 lead bullets into each chamber and they would fall right on through, so it was no mystery that JHPs were all over the paper.

But they were purty. My Rossis have been closer to S&W in performance than any other gun I've tried.

I've got a late 80s 3" Taurus 66 that will put 6 shots into 1.5" at 25 yards every time I set it on sand bags. It's a favorite CCW belt gun. My early 90s transfer bar pre-lock 66 4" will put 'em into an even inch at that range. I don't know about the cylinder dimensions, but they beat up on my old Security Six and S&W M19 for accuracy hands down, and my old Rossi 971. I've found Taurus to be one of the most accurate revolvers around, at least my 3 and I hear this from others. My 85UL is why I sold my Rossi 88, didn't need it anymore. But, that 3" 68 is just plain cool. It's easier to shoot with the extra sight radius and is quite accurate, about 2" at 25 off the bags, accurate enough to carry for rabbits while hiking or deer hunting. :D I think of it as a .38 kit gun. It is as accuate as that 4" 971 was and it's lighter, but of course, it won't shoot .357s. No real problem with that, though. When I'm deer hunting, I don't really need a .357. And, I don't live in bear country.

shockwave
January 24, 2010, 10:45 PM
I was cleaning both guns today, the Rossi and the S&W 686, and they really are identical. The Rossi having smoother action. Hate to say it, but the Italian model is really superior. I didn't want that. Smith and Wesson has a great heritage and this gun was not cheap to buy.

During the cleaning, the Rossi barrel slides better from side to side, the action feeling more solid, more solid state. Snaps right in. The 686 is a bit more stiff.

MCgunner
January 24, 2010, 10:50 PM
but the Italian model is really superior.

Uh, hate to say it, but that'd be a Brazilian model....:D

Confederate
January 25, 2010, 12:12 AM
I think the older ones like yours and mine seem to have had more attention paid to them.
Yes, I agree. I've never heard anyone complain about firing pin breakages on vintage guns; however, it's possible on any gun where the steel isn't properly heat treated or the spacing isn't just right. The good thing is that almost anyone could make a new firing pin if the company went under -- or use a S&W pin modified for use with a Rossi. It would be much tougher to manufacture the right springs for an auto pistol which no longer are made. (That's onr reason I got rid of my beloved Star BM...parts just were destined to dry up after they went out of production.)

Is pin breakage a big problem with later Rossis? Two-hundred and fifty rounds ain't much before breakage, though.

MCgunner
January 25, 2010, 12:56 PM
I broke one in my 971 bought about 1991 or somewhere there bouts. I sent it to Interarms, came back, broke on the first cylinder full, second shot IIRC. :rolleyes: I had a smith fit one and it never gave me a problem again. Hmmm.

I haven't got more'n 1000 rounds through my old 68, don't shoot it that much. I bought it for my step dad in 81 when my grandpa died and left me his M10 Smith. I wanted that M10 from him and he needed a gun for the house. He fired a box or two and it sat all those years until he died about 4 years ago and I got it back. It's a lot better fitted than those early 90s guns I had, no tooling marks and such, seems more attention to detail. But, I can't yet say the firing pin is better, LOL. I had a couple thousand rounds though that 971 before it broke. I now have a distrust for hammer mounted firing pins.

I hear about busted firing pins occasionally on the new ones, too, so I don't know that Rossi ever addressed this problem. That sorta keeps me from carrying mine, good as the little gun is, as a defense gun. Shooting at rabbits is one thing, but I need it against an attacker, then's NOT the time for a busted firing pin.

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