[conhntr]

anyone tried this? i have a couple of neglected guns that will see field/all weather use, and they are already in the 80% range on the blue. lots of wear on edges, scratches, and some pitting. neither is worth over 500$ and am not worried about resale. i am deciding between
GUN-KOTE™ OVEN CURE, GUN FINISH
and
OXPHO-BLUE®

with the light pits and scratches im doubtful cold blue will come out very well. will either cover the light blemishes (just through the blue not deep in the metal) on these guns?

recomendations?

[BsChoy]

With gun kote you need to have them bead blasted before you paint them so the paint adheres. You definitely don't want to paint over the rust so thats gotta go regardless. I use Brownells Alumahyde II ALOT, it's cheap, easy to use, and comes in alot of colors. And it is supposed to air cure without the baking required of Gun Kote. However I bake mine at 350 for 1-1.5 hours and its done. It layers a bit thicker than Gun Kote so it will fill the pits for the most part when the rust is gone.

[Marlin 45 carbine]

abrasive blasting with around 80 gr is better for adhesion than glass bead. any pits use 100gr paper to buff some then re-blast. I've never used gun-kote but have norrel's and you must clean the surface both before and after blasting. and heat the metal to around 100-120d before spraying.

[jimmyraythomason]

stick with beadblasting on aluminum parts. Abrasive blasting is okay for heavily pitted and rusted areas not for softer metals or light rusting. Glass bead at 8o psi and you are good to go.

[conhntr]

i dont have a beadblasting set up... the metal isnt too bad; just mostly blue wear and light pitting. cleaned it up with 0000 steel wool; and will use blue/rust remover so i have bare metal before putting it on (will wait till right before i paint it)

so the gun-kote wont grab on bare metal? and its a remington 1100 can i use this on the barrel extension/mag tube or will it wear off too quick? just leave those parts bare?

[jimmyraythomason]

The key to adhersion is a clean rough surface. Blasting isn't necessary just rough up the surfaces with sandpaper (220 grit) and clean, clean, clean. As has been pointed out ealier,heat the metal with a hairdryer (warm to the touch) before spraying. BE SURE to SHAKE,SHAKE SHAKE the Gunkote.

[conhntr]

the sides of the reciever is roll engraved... anyone use it on that kind of surface? its an older late 60s gun and the rollengraving is pretty deep; will the spray puddle or does it lay thin enough it will just stay on the edges.

im just doing the reciever probably the barrel is in fairly good shape; and has the ventilated rib so im not going for that job!

[jimmyraythomason]

You can fill the engraving with body filler for a smoother finish if you wish.

[natman]

You can fill the engraving with body filler for a smoother finish if you wish.

Yes, you can. However the introduction of filler brings with it a bunch of other issues. You have to sand the metal more to get it to stick. You have to sand the filler to get it to look presentable. You will probably have trouble when you bake on the GunKote with the metal expanding and popping the filler off.

If you use LIGHT coats of GunKote, which you should do anyway, the engraving will still look OK.

[jimmyraythomason]

Yes,you're right natman,if oven curing, it might cause problems. The engraving won't be filled by the paint but it would still look pretty good. I used Gun-kote on a checkered bolt handle and the checkering looked great!

[AndyJ]

I use Dura Coat on the long guns because it does not require heat to cure. It has worked well for me.

[1858]

I've painted lots of stuff (steel and aluminum) with GUN-KOTE 2400 and I love it. I have access to a garnet grit blaster, walk-in oven and a smaller oven for bolts, magazines etc.

I painted the barrel, receiver, bolt, bolt knob, magazines and rear sling attachment (after welding/improving the design) on my rifle shown below and I'll be doing other rifles soon. I use K-PHOS on the parts after grit blasting and before painting. I use an IWATA air brush with very good results.

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/rem700_308win/photos/005.jpg

:)

[conhntr]

new question how do you remove gun-kote back on finish? im not very happy with the results; i did a meticulous job prepping and sprayed nice and even but there are "bubbles" about pin-head size about 6-7 of them total.

[eddienyr]

you'll have to sandblast it off. I use norrels which is the same product as gun kote. I use an airbrush to apply it. I have never had a problem.

[1858]

new question how do you remove gun-kote back on finish? im not very happy with the results; i did a meticulous job prepping and sprayed nice and even but there are "bubbles" about pin-head size about 6-7 of them total.

If you want to remove ALL the coating, then sandblasting is the way to go as eddienyr stated. However, you could use a file to gently remove the bubbles and then paint the whole barrel again after wiping everything down with alcohol. GUN-KOTE is easy to paint over without any surface preparation.

:)

[moooose102]

before you go sticking that gun in the oven you and your family eat out of, check with kg, to see of their coating still gives off dangerous lead fumes. it has been roughly 10 years ago, but at that point, it said right on the can that you should not bake parts in your household oved due to danger of lead poisoning. supposedly, the lead would be given off to food you make in it for some time afterwards. no gun, is worth a slow toxic build up in your kids! if it is just you and the wife, ant least consult her, so she knows the risk.

[justashooter in pa]

gun kote is nice, but engine paint you can buy in the auto parts store can be just as good if applied correctly. glass bead if you have the equipment. tape up sliding contact surfaces with aluminum duct tape if you use abrasives like garnet. degrease with braakleen and spray duplicolor #1634 satin black from a distance of 12" for a dust coat to dry, followed by a wet coat to dry. place in oven at 225* till it stops stinking and allow to cool before handling. tough as nails, easy, cheap, looks like british black stoving paint. non-reflective, but not flat. resists all solvents i have tried.

[jimmyraythomason]

Does Gun-Kote contain lead? Lead-Based Paint Ban

In 1978, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission lowered the legal lead content in most paint to 0.06% (a trace amount). It banned paint or any other similar surface coating that containt more than 0.06% lead (lead containing paint). It also covers toys or other items intended for use by children and associated furniture.