[ghoster]

Just bought a used s&w 460 xvr.:D:):D:)

I was starting to feel my testerone level dropping so i really needed something to boost it back up.:p

problem solved. this thing is huge!!! i got a box of 45, 454, 460 and went by the farm to declair war on the creek, ooooober fun.

didnt have time to do any real sighting in but at 50 paces ( +/- 100 ft. ) i was staying in a 6 inch group.:cool:

the kick wasnt near as bad as i antisapated, my buddies snub 44 is worse i think.:what:

i plan to hunt bambi with it this year. cant wait as i have been using a 357 and comparitively it is a bb gun. had to get a bandolier holster as there is no way in ell i could carry this thing on my hip all day.close to 5 lb.:eek:

any one have any advice / experience with this manley man club gun?

[kanook]

wear double ear protection and enjoy. I use my on the rifle range and the noise upsets the people around it. Our handgun range is only 50 yds.

[Redhawk1]

I loved my. I had 5 of them and sold them all. Prefer the 500 Mag myself.

[liviussteven]

just wondering... is the action tight on your gun... i picked up a new 460 pc hunter at the local gun shop... it was very loose for a new gun... he had 2 of them.. both did not lock up tight like some of my other smiths

[buck460XVR]

enjoy.....the .460 really shines when you reload for it. Altho I don't double-up my hearing protection, I do wear electronic ear muffs when I'm hunting with mine.

[kanook]

just wondering... is the action tight on your gun... i picked up a new 460 pc hunter at the local gun shopMines still tight.

The PC were recalled because of barrel failure. Contact S&W to make sure that yours was fixed. Smith & Wesson 460 Recall

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If you have a Performance Center .460 S&W Magnum, in the serial number ranges below, you should probably send it in to Smith & Wesson to get them to check and, if necessary, replace the barrel. They've had a few incidents of the barrels coming off when the gun was fired.

EBD0001 to EBD0524
EBF0002 to EBF0251
LHZ0000 to LHZ0511
LLL0000 to LLL0702
LRR0001 to LRR0552
MMM0001 to MMM1809
XMC0001 to XMC0109

[Redhawk1]

S&W 460 Mag Recall. You can check the gun and see if the serial number is on the list, you can also check on the gun and see the punch mark, that indicates it has been done.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CustomContentDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&content=36817&sectionId=10506

[ghoster]

my action is pretty tight. i can move it slightly but thats all.
mines just the 460 magnum xvr.

any sugestions on a scope? never had a scope on a handgun before and it will definately need to be able to take a beating.

[kanook]

Leupold VX3 2.5-8X32 is what I'm using. Be prepared for sticker shock.

[Redhawk1]

Leupold VX3 2.5-8X32 would be my choice, but if you don't want to spend that much money, the Bushnell 2X6X32 will work just as well. I had one on my S&W 460 Mag, then it went on my 500 Mag and it is still holding up.

[ChlorineTrifluoride]

Definitely wear double hearing protection. Very good choice though for versatility. Hell of a fun shooter.

One thing that may be worth noting is that I found the sights to be different for .45LC, and .454 Casull. If I remember correctly (this was shooting my cousin's gun last summer) the .45LC shot really high, the .454 a bit high, and the .460 was dead on. If you haven't done so yet get a tall target, then try loading .45lc, .454 casull, and .460 all in a row. You should see what I mean on the target when you do.

[Redhawk1]

Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.

[ChlorineTrifluoride]

I always kind of thought that it was nice to have the option. You find a box of .45LC at a garage sale, you can have some fun plinking.

Plus, loading all 3 in a row is a great illustration of the evolution of cartridges.

[buck460XVR]

Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.


......what I found was that .45Colt and .454 loads printed so much differently that they weren't worth the effort to shoot unless you were gonna shoot a bunch of them and readjusted the sights. Reloading your own makes the cost savings of shooting the lesser calibers moot and you can find a reduced load that's pleasant to shoot and still prints close enough to leave the sights alone.

[KJS]

Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

When did a .454 Casull become a light load? I realize that a .460 Mag is based on the 454.

[ghoster]

used my electronic muffs and they worked fine.
the three cals. did track up but stayed within 6 in. total at aprox. 100 ft. so i can shoot any without adjustment once i become familiar with it at diff ranges.

cat and 460 is probably the only real uses for me as i have a 45. the 45 felt like a .25 auto out of that cannon anyway. way to heavy to use as a 45 for me.

i was looking for a 454 for a long time but couldnt find a used one i liked then happened on the 460 at a very nice price so home it came.:D

[Evergreen]

Forget shooting the 454 Casull's and 45 Colts in your S&W 460 Mag, you don't buy a S&W 460 Mag to shoot light loads.

I never understood why anyone wants to do that. The only reason you buy a big gun is to shoot big loads.

I am resurrecting this thread from the dead, because it caught my interest and I didn't want to start a new topic as of yet.

Let me ask my question with respect to this post. Why would there be any objections to using a S&W 460 XVR for shooting .454 casull as the main load? I was told .454 is quite pleasant to shoot out of this gun because of the heavy frame and ported barrel, as well as the .454 can be loaded quite hot and be a very powerful and effective round in its own right.

I am considering getting a .454 and since S&W does not make a revolver chambered specifically for .454 Casull, the .460 XVR seems like a good option, perhaps better than the Ruger Super Redhawk.

Can anyone give me their opinions of using the S&W 460 as a gun that is primarily used for shooting .454? The reason I think this gun may serve a good purpose for shooting .454 over the Redhawk is I hear the recoil is less and manageability of shooting .454 is much better out of the X-Frame S&W gun. What are other people's opinions about this?

I also like the idea of loading hot 45LC's for black bear defense in most of the lower 48 and being able to switch to more powerful .454 or .460 rounds if I go to areas with grizzlies like Montana or Alaska. How hard is it to adjust the sites to compensate for different loads? I hardly doubt I'd ever shoot multiple calibers in one day, but thought the S&W 460 had a lot of advantages and versatility due to the ability to shoot a variety of different calibers through the gun.

[460Kodiak]

The advantages of the versatility of this gun is what attracted me to it in the first place. Standard .45 Colt for home defense, +P Colts for deer and the like, .454 Casull for mule deer, hoggs if you live in their territory, or black bear protection, and the big 460's for elk, moose, and griz protection. There is also the added cost savings from being able to shoot cowboy loads. IMO there are a huge number of benefits to the variable things you can do with a 460. 460V 5"bbl, I'm pretty sure it's the most versatile gun I will ever own.

[Evergreen]

Would you say the 460 5" barrel is concealable with a chest holster? I have one made for my 4" S&W 629 44 mag and it seems to work fine. How much does the 5" barrel weigh? I cannot find any stats about the 5" barrel on S&W's website, all the information points to the larger barreled version.

[Redhawk1]

I know a few guys that use 454 Casull's in their S&W 460 Mag and love it. The reason I got into the S&W 460 Mag was due to the long range shooting with handguns I was doing. Use what ever you want in your S&W 460 Mag, my statement was because I bought my S&W 460 Mag to shoot the S&W 460 Mag. I have smaller, and a lot easier to carry guns in 45 Colt and 454 Casull.

[Hunt480]

Redhawk1, what kind of accuracy have you been able to get from the 460? I have been contemplating the 460 since it came out but have always wandered if the accuracy I read about the gun is true?

[Redhawk1]

I did a lot of work on loads in my S&W 460 Mag's. I was consistently hitting a 4 inch clay target at 150 yards with a 240 and 260 gr. bullet. I was getting 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the same load of the bench on a good rest, using a Leupold 2.5X8 power scope.

The gun is very accurate, I did find what worked best in my guns and stuck with them.

[460Kodiak]

Evergreen, personally I wouldn’t try to conceal this gun. If you’ve not handled an X frame before, than you should before considering the purchase. That being said, I see you have a 629, so I’m assuming you are aware that the X frame is noticeably larger. A chest rig would be a good way to carry the 460V, though I use a Desantes hip holster.

The reason you can’t find any info on S&W’s website is that they don’t make the 460V model anymore. You can still find them on Gunbroker and other gun selling websites, usually for $1000+ dollars. They are getting harder to find. The gun weighs in at 60 oz. empty, so just a little under 4 lbs. Load her up with full power 460’s rounds and you’ll probably be over 4 lbs due to the weight of the bullets and cartridges overall.

I was originally looking at the Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 with the 7.5” bbl (which is fine revolver). However, when I looked at the 460V, I found it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye (IMHO), I liked the added versatility of being able to shoot the 460 rounds, and the balance of the gun is fantastic. Keep in mind you get 5 shots in a 460 not 6 like in the Super Redhawk. This was not a concern to me since if you haven’t killed or scared away what ever you are shooting at with 5 rounds of 460, is having 6 rounds of .454 any better. Also, be aware that the 460 round was originally designed for a 8 3/8ths” barrel, I believe. So in the 5” version you will lose a bit of velocity, power, and accuracy if you are shooting longer distance. I shoot iron sights only, so I pretty much never shoot over 100 yards. At that distance, the gun is capable of shooting better than I.

To me the 460V fell into the “perfect gun for me” category. It is the perfect balance of being a great short range hunting revolver (longer if scoped), it is a great trail gun for dangerous critters, the balance is perfect (not nose heavy at all), I shoot it accurately with one or both hands, and I think it is gorgeous. It’s like the 460V was designed specifically for me. There is also the fun factor of having a huge hand cannon on your hip. Now keep in mind, I’m a large fella (6’3”, 210 lbs.), so this gun works good for me. I assume if you are concealing a 629, you are a big guy too, so this gun may work wonders for you.

Unfortunately, the “perfect gun” category only ever applies to certain people. The short barreled version is better for packing in dangerous animal areas due to the lighter weight, and the 8” and longer bbl versions are better for hunting, thus sales of the 460V were likely depressed. I consider this most unfortunate. I am actually thinking of buying a second one, since like I said, this gun is perfect for me.

Adjusting for different loads, 45, 45+p, 454, and 460 is easy since all you are really doing is adding more gas to the loads by stepping it up (bullet weights will also obviously play a part). Elevation is mostly what you need to worry about. Now if you are going to load it with different cartridges in the same cylinder full, that may get a bit more challenging. Put her on a rest or a sandbag, bring a note book, and start out on the 460, since the gun seems sighted in for that when it comes from the factory, and figure how many clicks you need to adjust for different loads.

I agree with Redhawk1 on the accuracy. I have found it to be extremely accurate for a handgun, and that’s just been with factory loads. I plan to get into hand loading in the not to distant future, and I can’t wait to start tweaking this loading for fun. I really want to try out some Belt Mountain Punch bullets in a 460 loading. That should stop a Buick if need be!

[Evergreen]

THanks for the informative post Kodiak. Well, I am a reasonably big guy (5,9" and 270lbs) and have strong hands. I'm not a lardo, despite my weight, so hiking up the mountains with a 5lb gun is not a big deal for me either. I like the chest holster as it balances the weight and I Can still carry another sidearm ( like a 9mm) on my hip.

I was blasting off rounds of the Ruger Alaskan 454 2.5" bbl without any problems. People commended me on how I handled the recoil. Actually, I felt the kick was worse on my S&W 629 with 4" barrel because of the lack of padding on the grip that the S&W 629 has compared to the thicker and longer grip of the Ruger. I assume the S&W 460 has a much thicker grip like the Super Redhawk.

Some have told me that small Ruger has more recoil than the S&W 460 due to the fact the 460 has a longer barrel, thicker frame and a compensator. Actually, that was one of the selling points to me about the S&W 460. I thought it be nice to shoot .454 out of a gun that has less recoil and more versatility. Perhaps, once I get a good with the .454 and hopefully start reloading, I could make my way up to shooting the .460s. Another benefit, is that if I am in black bear country, a hot 45LC would probably be all I would need and it would shoot like a kitten out of that big gun. My 44s do kick quite a bit out of that lighter N-frame 629.

I am sad to hear that they no longer make the 5" barrel 460s. SO does that mean there is no way to acquire a new S&W 460 with less than a 7+" barrel? Obviously, if it will be my carry gun in the woods, it would be impractical to conceal anything less than a 5" barrel. Even 5" is pushing it, I would prefer a 4" barrel. I think under 4" barrel, it is not useful, as you lose accuracy and velocity, which is one of the reasons I would use such a powerful round.

[460Kodiak]

I am guessing that the recoil on the 460V is lighter than on the Alaskan for all the reasons you stated, though I have never shot the Alaskan. The logic you are using makes perfect sense. I have shot a lot of Hornady .454's out of this gun, and they are a breeze.

The grip is a Houge (I think) mono grip with a decelerator pad right where the web of your hand touches. It is thick, and squishy, and does wonders for the recoil. The grip is also the same size as the N frame grips I believe, so if you like the feel of the 629, the 460V will fit you well.

These guns are getting harder to find new, but there are a few on Gunbroker right now if you have the coin available to buy one. Just type in 460V in the search box, and I think there are like 4 available. One of them is very lightly used. It looks NIB but the seller says it has about 10 rounds through it. I am guessing you will agree that it is a better looking gun than the Alaskan, but that's just MO, and it has nothing to do with the performance. I do think the Alaskan has a rather unique and destinctly attractive look to it.

I picked up some Buffalo Bore heavy +P .45 colt JHP's a while back. The advertised speed is about 1400 fps and 1200 ft. lbs, though I'm not sure what length barrel was used to chrono those speeds. I know that hard cast bullets are better for dangerous animals, but I'm guessing these are plenty for a black bear (like a .44 mag). Corbon also makes some solid copper +P .45 Colts. Those generate about 700 ftlbs of energy. Those hardly kick at all in this 4 lb gun and follow up shots would be easy. I reserve those for mountain lions. I keep it in my living room (I do the stash guns around my home in case of a home invassion thing(I keep a .357 on the night stand)) loaded with Hornady's .45 Colt Critical Defense cartridges (probably about 450 ftlbs out a 5" bbl). I used to load it with +P's, but moved back into town and into a neighborhood, so I became concerned about blasting through 1 or more walls if I missed an intruder in my home.

The trigger pull in DA is really smooth which makes follow up shots in a dangerous animal encounter more accurate. The trigger pull is extremely light in SA so don't let it surprise you. Since the 460 was meant as a hunting revolver, I'm guessing the hair trigger is to eliminate or reduce flinching. Also, 5 Star Speed Loaders makes speed loaders and pouches for X frames. I don't know how usefull speed loaders would be for a 460, but it's something to think about.

[Evergreen]

Thanks for the inspiration and info Kodiak. Perhaps I should just shoot myself (no, not seriously :D), but i just purchased the S&W m460v for $1,060 (includes shipping + insurance) on Buds Gun Shop. Actually, I could have paid less, but I signed up for the Bud's Gun SHop credit account and now I am getting 6 months no interest. Oh man, I probably didn't need another gun, but this was a gun I have wanted for years and now they are discontinuing it, I don't know if I can ever get another one of these again or for many years to come. The thing is such a beauty and definitely more pleasing to my eyes than the Ruger Super Red Hawk, which is also quite a nicely crafted gun. The Alaskan is almost impossible to find in .454 and although it was fun to shoot, I think the extra recoil and loss of velocity and accuracy you get from that small 2.5in barrel is not worth the little extra ease of concealment. And, it appears the S&W is almost the same weight as the Ruger, despite an extra 3".

Oh gosh, I hope this purchase was not in vain.. No, it is just a cool gun to have in my collection and I will certainly be carrying this when I enter grizzly country. I'm planning on hiking in Glacier National Park this summer or next summer and Alaska is also in my sights. I figure, regardless to how useless a handgun is in grizz country, its better to have one of these than anything less. And no, I won't file down the front sight on this bad boy :p.


Anyway, after shooting the .454, I just knew I needed one of these. Also, I think it will be nice to shoot 45LC out of it and I think I will spend a lot of range time shooting hot 45's out of it. I probably will be carrying hot 45LCs +P's in this gun when hiking around here in Oregon. I have a chest holster made by Simply Rugged. I'm not sure if my holster for my S&W 629 will fit this gun, most likely not. I suppose I will have to call up Simply Rugged to get a bigger one.

The fact they are discontinuing this model is what made me jump on the deal. Actually, Bud's is selling this gun cheaper than anyone else i have seen. It seems that most dealers on gun broker are really gouging the price of this because of its axed status.

I will certainly check out the speed loaders. A few loaded speed loaders are never bad to carry around.

[460Kodiak]

Hey, congrats on the purchase. I'm sure you will be quite happy with it, though maybe not with the bill. :uhoh: Don't beat yourself up over buying a gun you don't need. The only gun anyone in Americas really needs is a 12 gauge pump you know. Everybody collects something...... at least guns have resale value. Yeah they are fun, but look at it this way, you just bought a discontinued S&W model. The best way to drive the price up on a collector's item is to stop making it. It's an investment.

I really am thinking about buying another one. I just wish I had the cash to do it right now. I'm saving for several other things, like a POF 415 and a maybe a performance center in .44 mag, and oh yeah a house!

Actually if you look at Rugers website, the Alaskan weighs in at 45 ounces. The 460V weighs in at 60.9 onces. You'll be surprised at how much difference 15 oz makes in the recoil. That's almost a pound more of weight.

One other interesting note. The 460V uses gain twist riffling to stabilize heavy bullets at extreme velocities out of a short barrel. It's just a fun fact I thought I'd share.

Enjoy the new gun, and welcome to the 460 gang. Feel free to PM me after you get a chance to shoot it, and tell me what you think.

[Evergreen]

Thanks a lot Kodiak for your encouragement. I thought I would wake up the next day bang myself on the head, but surprisingly I felt very satisfied and happy with this purchase. I figure a gun being discontinued will eventually be a collector's item anyway. Just look at how expensive the Colt Anacondas are now. It's ridiculous. I don't fear ARs or other types of guns being discontinued anytime soon, but a gun like this is certainly one that will be useful for me during my summer expeditions in the north country. Glacier, Denali and other far away places are on my agenda.

I was considering saving up for a converted Red Jacket Firearms Saiga 12, but oh well, that is out the window now. Personally, I would have had no practical use for that gun, except for looking cool, whereas the S&W 460 can be concealed with me in National Parks. Maybe, I will have to be satisfied with my boring plain looking Saiga 12 for now. Have to make sacrifices.

I will have to say, it is exciting owning one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, handgun in the world. Actually, I am not sure between the 460 and 500 which has the edge in shear power/penetration, but I have been reading the debate. I have also heard that special rifling to stabilize the .460 round which I heard is not typical to be used in a handgun barrel. I don't know the facts but did read a few articles about this which seem interesting. It appears the .460 exceeds any other pistol caliber in velocity.

I know I will have to start doing a lot more research about this gun and caliber I will be now shooting. Perhaps, this will be the inspiration I need to get into reloading. I would like to start reloading some of my pistol rounds. Considering, that I have seen some .460 rounds for $3.00 a piece, I definitely need to find a way to conserve costs. Most likely I will spend most my time shooting .45LC+P and .454 Casull's out of this gun. I will however try to purchase the baddest and meanest .460 round I can just for fun to get the feel of the .460 round.

Anyway, I am happy to be apart of the .460 family. Thanks for the warm welcome :o. I will certainly let you know how things go. Hopefully, I can get a video of me shooting the gun for the first time. I'm in the process of moving, but I will be headed back to the range in a couple weeks to give my new gun a try. I assume you're probably in Alaska, if I ever go up that way, maybe we can do some .460 shooting together.

[bangaway]

The .454 casull rounds fired in an 8 + inch .460 xvr is easy to shoot with 300 grain, 1500 fps, 1500 ft pds. It does not bark as loud and I hit within 2 or 3 days on 50 yard calanders as where I aim. .45 colt is whimpy by comparison but smears 30 yard oranges and 8x8x16 cement blocks. As of yet I have only fired 200 grain .460 shells and ring a 12 inch gong at 240 yards. Pings loud and clear. Great shooting gun. Have fun shooting and bangaway.

[bangaway]

The .454 casull rounds fired in an 8 + inch .460 xvr is easy to shoot with 300 grain, 1500 fps, 1500 ft pds. It does not bark as loud and I hit within 2 or 3 days on 50 yard calanders as where I aim. .45 colt is whimpy by comparison but smears 30 yard oranges and 8x8x16 cement blocks. As of yet I have only fired 200 grain .460 shells and ring a 12 inch gong at 240 yards. Pings loud and clear. Great shooting gun. Have fun shooting and bangaway.

[RTMiller]

I did a lot of work on loads in my S&W 460 Mag's. I was consistently hitting a 4 inch clay target at 150 yards with a 240 and 260 gr. bullet. I was getting 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the same load of the bench on a good rest, using a Leupold 2.5X8 power scope.

Redhawk1 - There are at least two of 'em in Delaware!

http://www.photoddgraphy.com/photos/1201536410_y2xus-M.jpg

I just put the scope on it recently. I have only shot at Targetmaster (25yds) and Ommelanden (50yds). I haven't shot at 100 yards yet but one inch groups would be sweet. I have no doubt the gun can do that. The question is can I? Do you have any good load recipes to share?

[Granatelli]

RTMiller - is that the Leupol VX3 Handgun Scope?

[RTMiller]

is that the Leupol VX3 Handgun Scope?
Yes sir. Leupold VX-3 Pistol Scope 2.5-8x 32mm Duplex Reticle Silver.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=548645

[Jimbo501]

Redhawk,

I am new to the 460 (I have only fired about 1000 rounds through it). I had some issues with kepping the rings locked down. I had some creep with maximum loads. What ring configuration did you use that worked? I finally settled on a 3 ring Weigand setup and I think I have it under control.

I love this gun. I am 6'6" and 250 pounds and this is the first handgun that fits my paw out of the box! I have shot .44 magnum for 30 years but now would rather use the 460. The only problem is I can not find an ankle holster for it!
Seriously it is an amazing firearm. BTW what do you like better about the .500? I originally wanted to buy a d.5 Desert Eagle but they want let me do that in my state (time to move!)
Also in an old thread I saw you say you had not heard of anyone haveing a 460 fly out of their hand. I did see a youtube video of a girl who was small and did not have a good grip the gun flew staight up and back and fired twice! I suspect she was trying to hold tight and flinched and squeezed the double action a second time as the momentum of the gun lifted up and back.

[Redhawk1]

Jimbo501,
I used the Weigand setup with only 2 rings on one, and the others I used the Leupold rings and mount. My buddy went with the Weigand 3 ring setup on his 500 Mag.

[bangaway]

Evergreen did you have any luck finding speed loaders for your m460v? I found some $25 aluminum ones but that is all. Have fun and bangaway.

[bangaway]

Has anyone used leupold's qd pistol mount on their 460? I was wondering if recoil changed the zero after using the on and off feature a time or two. Thanks for any input. Have fun and bangaway.

[Jimbo501]

Redhawk,
Did you use "friction pads on the rings? i did not (they do not come with weigand rings) and the rings actually shaved some metal off the scope when it moved from the recoil. I broke a screw trying to torque them down more and had to drill it out to remove. That is when I went to three rings which seems to be working (about 50 lipstick factory rounds through it).

[Jimbo501]

Five Star Firearms makes a speedloader for the 460 out of a solid billet of Al. they also make loading block that holds 5 of the loaders for anyone who is interested.

[bangaway]

Jimbo501 thanks for the info on speed loaders. I lost their web page. They seem to be the only loaders available.

[roger460xvr]

They make a very GOOD speed loader i have 3 of them..

[CaptHank]

RT... I haven't shot at TargetMaster in about 12 years. Does Tommy still own the place?

[Granatelli]

After all the postive feedback - I finally purchased one. This is a GREAT GUN. When my shoulder is acting up, I shoot 50 to 100 rounds of .45 long colt. Any time I want a bigger punch, I use the Hornady .454 or .460 load.

I'd like to see the size of the guy who called the .454 a "light load". I'm 6'2" 245 lbs and, in my opinion, the .454 packs a real nice punch. So now I am thinking about the Leupold - since my eyes ain't what they used to be. I am very glad I did not get the 500.
I love the ammo choice on this thing!

[jrb_pro]

I want one really badly. Those are awesome guns.