[NY Patriot]

http://keepandbeararms.com/silveira/research.asp

Hello all...

KeepAndBearArms.com is doing research for the upcoming 2nd Amendment case that the SCOTUS may be hearing (Silveira v. Lockyer). They are trying to get definitions of key words in the 2nd Amendment from dictionaries published around the time the amendment was written.

If a nearby library has very old dictionaries, you can help by getting photocopies of these dictionaries per the instructions in the link above and sending them to the contact person at that link. With books this rare, you probably won't be able to touch them yourself, but I'll bet that a research librarian could do it for you.

Every little bit helps!

[NY Patriot]

Bump for the day crew!

[NY Patriot]

BTT

[geekWithA.45]

Look, I don't want to take away from what they're doing but....

Hasn't the meaning and syntax of the words of the second amendment already undergone pretty exhaustive scholarship?

Are they re-inventing wheels here?

It seems to me that the only place they'd find such dictionaries, if they exist, would be in the oldest seats of learning, like Harvard.

It seems to me that they oughta grab what already exists, and sharpen up some additional approaches such as the rulings that held taxes on instrumentalities of unalienable rights (voting, praying, bibles, etc) to be unconstitutional. In a similiar vein, a lot of the anti Jim Crow rulings (poll taxes, literacy tests, etc) that deal with other obstacles to the excercise of basic rights are relevant, and possibly of some use.

If their plan hinges on bringing in the dictionary entry that lists the meaning of "regulated" as "well supplied", it's not exactly inspiring confidence.

[alan]

Geek with a 45:

Re the term "Regulated" as in that "well regulated militia", I believe that th terem, as used in the 19th century meant well adjusted, or well maintained, as with the rergulation of barrels in a double rifle and or the regulation of a clock. Bureaucratic license was not, one would take it, either considered or ment.

[Black Snowman]

Exactly alan, and Mr.45 knows this as do most of the people who have investigated the 2nd Amendment. I believe Geek with a .45's point is the effort would be better spent in other avenues that haven't already been so extensively covered and I agree. The Supreme Court is certainly well aware of the documents original intent and just letting them know that we know should be sufficiant.

The important thing, as Mr.45 has pointed out, is to show that the 2nd Amendment is being violated by laws similar to those thrown down as unconstitutional previously. His examples are very good in fact.

Geek, have you written keepandbeararm.com yet? I think your input would be beneficial and much more eloquent coming first had than from someone trying to pass it along.

[geekWithA.45]

Yup, I wrote KABA about this. Hope it helps.

{fantasy mode}

The geek's nimble insight sparks a flurry of legal activity, which sets into action a chain of events that ultimately saves the day.

SCOTUS rules firmly in favor of individual rights, and broadly sweeps away state and federal legislation all the way back to the NFA.

Members of The Brady Bunch have heart attacks and strokes.

The throngs cheer.

For the first time, the geek legally tucks his sidearm into his holster, and stands peaceably on the streets of NJ.

The throngs cheer louder

{/fantasy mode}

[semf]

Well Geek, ya never know. Honest Abe was just a rail splitter. And a couple thousand years ago a day labor carpenter made a few good changes. As did a few British subject farmers two hundred some odd years ago.