22lr fmj? Does that exist?


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lobo9er
October 28, 2009, 11:17 PM
In another thread it was brought up (maybe missed the joke, usually do) does 22LR FMJ really exist and if so for what purpose? thank you and i will take your answer off the air.

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justashooter in pa
October 28, 2009, 11:39 PM
military applications require it. it does exist.

Wahoo95
October 28, 2009, 11:42 PM
There's a company out of South Africa that makes it but it's not imported into the USA

paintballdude902
October 28, 2009, 11:50 PM
cci makes whats called fmj but its really just a solid bullet with a copper wash

Mags
October 28, 2009, 11:53 PM
military applications require it. it does exist. What current military applications do you speak of? I worked an ammo dump for a few months and never seen one round of 22lr come through.

Deus Machina
October 29, 2009, 01:11 AM
military applications require it. it does exist.

The military has absolutely nothing that says they have to use FMJ specifically.

The requirement is ammunition that is not designed to expand. In a rifle, this means FMJ. In a handgun, that could mean cast lead, if it would save them enough money and not crud up the weapons.

mljdeckard
October 29, 2009, 01:17 AM
I've only seen copper plate and copper wash.

Jim Watson
October 29, 2009, 01:26 AM
I had an older coworker who worked on the Burma Road and was in regular contact with aircrews flying The Hump. He said the aircraft were equipped with Stevens .22-.410 combinations for jungle survival in case of a forced landing. They had jacketed .22 lr in accordance with the Hague Convention but some Nervous Nellie took up the .410 shotshells with their deadly lead birdshot. I don't think such things ever bothered the Luftwaffe with their Kreighoff drilling survival guns.

Double Naught Spy
October 29, 2009, 07:59 AM
http://www.rimfireuniverse.com/ This is the South African maker.

Here is a long thread on it...
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232659

Post #429 shows that Remington apparently used to make a FMJ .22 lr round. Maybe that was what Jim Watson heard about.

Speedo66
October 29, 2009, 09:53 AM
Weren't there some silenced Ruger .22 pistols during the Viet Nam era?

Did they use jacketed .22s?

1911Tuner
October 29, 2009, 10:04 AM
Have heard reports of jacketed .22 LR, but never saw one. I won't say that it doesn't exist...but on the assumption that it does...it's not likely available through normal channels.

Beelzy
October 29, 2009, 02:54 PM
They are simply called solids. Not FMJ.

natman
October 29, 2009, 03:01 PM
I was skeptical too, but post #41 here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=412581&highlight=fmj+22&page=2) will show proof.

They did exist, the military did use them, I've never seen one.

1911Tuner
October 29, 2009, 03:04 PM
They are simply called solids. Not FMJ.

Nah. Those are lead. They may be copper washed...but they're lead.

natman. Interesting.

Ed Harris
October 29, 2009, 04:33 PM
http://www.dtic.mil/dticasd/sbir/sbir032/a044a.pdf

The component drawing in the .pdf file shows a heeled, ungrooved FMJ bullet. I have a few of these in "plain brown wrapper" which were used in the High Standard HDM suppressed autopistol.

CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .22, BALL, LONG RIFLE, M24

Type Classification:
OBS - MSR 11756003.
DODAC.....................................1305-A086

Erik M
October 29, 2009, 05:50 PM
I've only seen copper plate and copper wash.
Same here. .22 mag is a different story.

mboylan
October 30, 2009, 12:28 AM
Not really available. That's why the .25 ACP was invented. Bad choice for SD anyway. A FMJ would help with penetration. But still a bad choice.

jhco50
October 30, 2009, 12:40 AM
http://www.rimfireuniverse.com/

Sport45
October 30, 2009, 01:16 AM
In case someone has trouble opening the above post...

Cute. But I think I'll stick with the stuff I've been shooting.

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=108200&stc=1&d=1256876143

meadmkr
October 30, 2009, 09:04 AM
Never had seen a jacketed .22lr.

Then again the jacketed .17HMR/.17Mach2 (started life as a 22WMR/22LR) are both pretty wicked little rounds ;)

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