22-250 anyone?


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Wildyams
October 29, 2009, 06:22 PM
I have the brass and dies, what are some of your guys favorite bullets and powder? I'd like something that meters well and it is mainly going to be used for target.

Inexpensive is good, but not required.

I believe the barrel is a 1 in 12.

Also, this will be the first time I'm reloading for rifles, is trimming the case length absolutely necessary? I know about having to lube the cases, but is there any other big differences? I will consult my ABC's and other reloading manuals too, but its always nice to hear what you guys suggest.

Thanks

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627PCFan
October 29, 2009, 06:30 PM
H380 is the standard for 22-250. You might also like Varget.....if you can find some

matrem
October 29, 2009, 06:41 PM
I'm reloading for rifles, is trimming the case length absolutely necessary?
If it is over maximum, YES!
H380 is my "go to" .22/250 powder as well.

UltimateReloader
October 29, 2009, 06:55 PM
Gotta love the 22-250! I'm currently loading with Varget, H380, and Win760. Win760 meters the best, but I have not yet determined the relative accuracy for each powder. I'll be working on that...

For bullets, the Sierra Matchking HPBT 52 grain work well, as well as Hornady VMAX 55 grain. I have a 1:9 twist, so may react differently...

dakotasin
October 29, 2009, 06:59 PM
h-380 and 50 grain v-max's is the ticket to 22-250 happiness...

jjohnson
October 29, 2009, 07:57 PM
Remingtons 700s have a fairly slow twist - 1 in 14 or 1 in 16, so they do best with light bullets - 50 grains or less most of the time. You didn't mention what rifle you have. If you have a faster twist, there's a lot you can do with the heavier bullets. I agree that H380 is the standard by which other powders are judged.

Horsemany
October 29, 2009, 08:05 PM
35.0grains Varget under a 55 grain Berger Match is doing well in my 300yd matches.

billybob44
October 29, 2009, 08:29 PM
Gotta love the 22-250! I'm currently loading with Varget, H380, and Win760. Win760 meters the best, but I have not yet determined the relative accuracy for each powder. I'll be working on that...

For bullets, the Sierra Matchking HPBT 52 grain work well, as well as Hornady VMAX 55 grain. I have a 1:9 twist, so may react differently...
My Rem. Varmit also likes Sierra 52 HPBT Match. It does well with BL-C(2). Next best load is the 50 V-Max with WW-760. Both loads are deadly on GroundHogs+Targets too.

guntech59
October 29, 2009, 09:26 PM
For me, 38.9gr of W760 and 55gr sierra HPBT works well in cooler weather but that load is too hot (in my rifle) for temps above @65. I shoot a summer league using 38.0gr with no problems.

I use the same load with the Hornady 55gr VMAX.

In my experience, its HARD to find an bad load for the 22-250.

NCsmitty
October 29, 2009, 09:28 PM
Wildyams, you are getting good data from the posters.

I'm offering data connections to a few online data base rich sites.
If you want to save a couple bucks on powder, Ramshot and Accurate offers good powders for the money.
Hodgdon has introduced some new powders that appear to give top velocities in many different rounds, something to ponder.
Check out the sites and see what powders are available at you local dealer.

www.ramshot.com/powders/

www.accuratearms.com/

www.hodgdon.com

www.alliantpowder.com/

I'm currently using the Hornady 52gr A-Max bullet, but I have a good supply of other types of .224 bullets to choose from.
If you keep your bullet weight under 60gr, you should be fine.

As mentioned, the 22-250 responds well to most loadings and is a laser to 300yds.


NCsmitty

Bushmaster223
October 30, 2009, 02:35 AM
I use H380 with 55gr. V-Max

Afy
October 30, 2009, 05:52 AM
55 grain SMK with 36.5 gr of N-150

loadedround
October 30, 2009, 06:26 AM
Have been using both H380 and Varget with a Nosler 55 gr BT bullet. I've seen very little difference with either powder since they both shoot less than 1/2" groups. Both need a little tuning in the spring for the more accurate title.

61chalk
October 30, 2009, 09:34 AM
guntech59 said "....its HARD to find a bad load for the 22-250.".......I have a story...ha.

I was 18 in 1979, an bought a Remington 22-250, 160.00 I believe brand new. Then I
got into reloading with a hand Lee Loader Classic....so far so good....but there just seemed to be more room for powder in the brass.....so with the little red scoop I started
to tap it so the powder settled, then scoop again an let it stay heaped up...that should spice it up right? Believe I was using 52 gr Hornady an maybe H4895...? not real sure on the powder, its what was recommended at the time though....so I shot at 25 yds. an it was spot on....then went hunting an shot at a groundhog at about 100yds an missed....?...came home an shot at 25yds....ok...shot at 100yds..missed....shot at 40 yds...ok.....got a 3 foot target at 100 yds an shot an missed....?......shot at about 70yds an I got little pieces of shrapnel on the target.....what..? How is my bullet hitting
the ground an bouncing up into the target.....my Dads buddy came down an I showed him an he asked where I bought my ammo...."I'm reloading"....he asked me if I was measuring out the powder right....I told him what I had done an he laughed an said that small od gr. bullet is going so fast its disentigrating before it gets out to 100yds, its not hitting the ground....so I used up the last rds I reloaded HOT, at targets under 50...my buddy shot one at a groundhog at 35 yds. It hit the neck, killed it dead, it never moved, an it had no exit wound...we figured it had exploded just as it hit. I never reloaded HOT after that......I sometimes wonder if I was lucky the gun never blew up.

ForneyRider
October 30, 2009, 10:44 AM
35gr Varget, CCI 200 primer, Nosler/Frontier brass, 50gr V-Max goes 3913fps out of 26in 1:14 twist Rem 700 VLS.

This load is below max in the load data but exceeds the max load in velocity. I think it is because of the smaller internal dimensions of the brass and the longer barrel.

Lots of powders: try something in IMR 4064, Varget, TAC, R15, VV N140 range, AA 2520 range.

All4eyes
October 30, 2009, 06:48 PM
37.5 gr H380, CCI 250, and 55 gr VMax...One tiny little hole at 100 yds.

guntech59
October 30, 2009, 06:59 PM
guntech59 said "....its HARD to find a bad load for the 22-250.".......I have a story...ha.

I was 18 in 1979, an bought a Remington 22-250, 160.00 I believe brand new. Then I
got into reloading with a hand Lee Loader Classic....so far so good....but there just seemed to be more room for powder in the brass.....so with the little red scoop I started
to tap it so the powder settled, then scoop again an let it stay heaped up...that should spice it up right? Believe I was using 52 gr Hornady an maybe H4895...? not real sure on the powder, its what was recommended at the time though....so I shot at 25 yds. an it was spot on....then went hunting an shot at a groundhog at about 100yds an missed....?...came home an shot at 25yds....ok...shot at 100yds..missed....shot at 40 yds...ok.....got a 3 foot target at 100 yds an shot an missed....?......shot at about 70yds an I got little pieces of shrapnel on the target.....what..? How is my bullet hitting
the ground an bouncing up into the target.....my Dads buddy came down an I showed him an he asked where I bought my ammo...."I'm reloading"....he asked me if I was measuring out the powder right....I told him what I had done an he laughed an said that small od gr. bullet is going so fast its disentigrating before it gets out to 100yds, its not hitting the ground....so I used up the last rds I reloaded HOT, at targets under 50...my buddy shot one at a groundhog at 35 yds. It hit the neck, killed it dead, it never moved, an it had no exit wound...we figured it had exploded just as it hit. I never reloaded HOT after that......I sometimes wonder if I was lucky the gun never blew up.

Sure.....make a liar out of me!;):D

fireman 9731
October 31, 2009, 11:37 AM
36gr Varmint Grenades and 50gr CTs in front of Varget have done wonders for me.

SEHunter
December 16, 2009, 04:22 PM
Fireman, You are the first to mention the c/t bullet with the 22-250 that i have came across and that is what i have chose to load in mine. Im still waiting on my dies but i was curious of what gun you are shooting and the powder grain, etc.
Mine is a Rem 700 with a 24" barrel. 50 grain c/t, and either fed or cci primers. I have Hornady and Rem. brass. After researching, i bought Varget, H380, and IMR4895. Im hoping to find accuracy close to 3900fps but would be pleased with anything over 3800. Were your results similar to this?

rcmodel
December 16, 2009, 04:50 PM
You will have to trim cases, and you might have to Neck Ream after a few loading cycles.

That's the way mine was anyway.

rc

SEHunter
December 16, 2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks. Got to be honest and say i dont have experience in reaming cases. I have only outside-neck turned but dont like doing that because i feel it takes off too much brass.
Is reaming as simple as it appears? I am assumeing the reason for this is the coating on the c/t building up inside the neck?

rcmodel
December 16, 2009, 05:05 PM
No, the reason for it is that the necks get thicker every time you fire and resize them.

My rifle had a fairly tight chamber, and eventually the necks would get thick enough there was no room left for them to expand in the chamber and release the bullet.

Neck turning is prefered over neck reaming as it insures uniform neck thickness all the way around.
Reaming can leave one side thicker then the other.

But that was the only way I had to do it then.

Still, it must have worked pretty good cause that rifle would shoot 1/2 MOA all day long.

rc

SEHunter
December 16, 2009, 05:14 PM
Oh, ok. Will neck sizing the cases prevent me from having to worry about that for 3 or 4 loadings per case?

rcmodel
December 16, 2009, 05:24 PM
Only your rifles chamber can answer that question.

Just try to slip a bullet in the neck of a fired case and see if it is still a slip fit or not.

If the bullet won't go back in an unsized case, they need to be reamed or turned.

rc

SEHunter
December 16, 2009, 05:34 PM
Good to know, thanks again.

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