Searching for Balance
gburner
November 5, 2003, 01:13 PM
As the years pass, I am not so much interested in the number of weapons that I can accumulate, but in their utilitarian value. I have come to believe that the best battery, if you will, for home/personal defense is one rifle, one carbine, one shotgun and one pistol.
Fitting these roles currently are:
A Yugo SKS,
A post war Enfield #4 cut down to jungle carbine length,
A S&W Model 3000 12 ga. pump shotty,
A CZ 75B.
Where am I going wrong here?:confused:
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ChickenHawk
November 5, 2003, 01:20 PM
Well, you are completely violating the rule that, "He who dies with the most toys wins." :p
That aside, you need a backup for the handgun!
Cheers,
ChickenHawk
Kamicosmos
November 5, 2003, 01:21 PM
one rifle, one carbine, one shotgun and one pistol.
I believe it goes:
One bourbon, one scotch, and one beer.
:D
otherwise sounds similar to most of these sorts of 'One of each' threads.
ksnecktieman
November 5, 2003, 02:40 PM
My minimum would have to include a .22 rifle, and a pocket gun (keltec .32?)
Correia
November 5, 2003, 04:16 PM
If you are a high volume shooter, either from training/competition then you are going to want a comparable spare for each of your heavy use guns.
CZ52GUY
November 5, 2003, 06:04 PM
A Yugo SKS 7.62x39 is readily available and cheap. 30-round mag's can be found, and it can be "accessorized" if desired.
I substituted the AK (actually AK's per Correia's logic)
A post war Enfield #4 cut down to jungle carbine length
I substituted an Enfield #1 MKIII as my reach out and touch someone choice.
A S&W Model 3000 12 ga. pump shotty
I substitute the Mossy 500, but can't argue with your logic here
A CZ 75B
I also have the CZ 75B (excellent choice) and several other autoloaders (including a pending Arcus 98 purchase) which ensure that I do have a serviceable full size.
I add Bulgarian Makarov (actually 2) because a smallish backup may be desirable in certain circumstances.
I'm not sure I see a problem, other than perhaps a single point of failure if you don't have some redundancy in your set of 4...and you might consider a little mouse gun to complete the ensemble'.
Best wishes,
CZ52'
Mark Tyson
November 5, 2003, 06:06 PM
I think you could replace your SKS with a .30-06 or 308 caliber gun, for a more versatile platform.
But for a good basic kit you've done well.
jercamp45
November 5, 2003, 06:49 PM
Been doing that myself, sort of.
Had a different game plan working..as I was doing security(no more!) and had a nice collection of 1911's working.
Saiga AK- GP fun blaster and field tool. Currently in a gunsafe not close to my needy hands. Area Denial Weapon!
Government Model....house, casual competition, SHTF tactical blaster
LW Officer's- CCW, BUG to Government. Also have a .22 conversion unit for it for cheap practise, plinking, training others, and theoretical small game use.
S&W Airweight Jay Frame .38- Back Up to the Back up. Primarily was a BUG for my....
ParaLDA Companion I got for work...very sweet handgun!!
Added a MechTech CCU for another Officer's I had laying around....it ain't a real rifle, but fills the gap between riot gun and assault rifle for me...a most dandy patrol carbine too!! Polymer stock insert, sight rail....need a light and clamp next. Experimenting with an inepensive red dot now.
Got holster, mags, pouches and spare parts galore from 27 years experimenting with the 1911!
Will eventually get another rifle...maybe a .308. Checking out the Saiga with the short barrel to maybe make a psuedo semi auto 'scout', but have not decided.
No really into shotguns, but I may investigate the Saiga qith a 19 inch barrel too. I love the idea of box mags in my shotty. (looks like I am starting an AK collection too!).
Works for me!!
Jercamp45
9mmepiphany
November 6, 2003, 04:08 AM
mark tyson - if you mean to replace the rifle with a .308 or 30'06, you'd be replacing the enfield and not the sks
the sks is his carbine...and i consider it an excellent choice, even wothout an enlarged mag
i also think the enfield is an excellent choice as a "reach out and touch somone" piece...i think somone had a "tanker model" out awhile back (navy arms?)
the smith shotty was a good "product improved" remington 870...but i also prefer the mossy...and i could even do with just a 20ga
i would also add a .22lr to the mix. my current favorite is a weatherby mk XXII, but i could easily make do with my #2...a romo 69
Hal
November 6, 2003, 05:30 AM
Ya know that old saw - - "Beware the man with one gun"?
Lemme tell ya my take on it.
a.) The man with one gun is a fella that spent his lifetime shooting and trying everything he could lay his hands on and settled on one. He became the master of it, and all the others were just so much metal collecting dust.
AND/OR
b.) The man with one gun is too poor to buy anything else. He made up that old saying to make himself feel better.
Real trick is figuring out which one is which. ;)
(Then again, some of us fit into both catagories););)
PS. CZ75b = good choice. Add a Kadet upper to it.
gburner
November 6, 2003, 06:11 PM
I had a Makarov that I traded in a couple months ago...I'm having seller's remorse. It's still in the cabinet at the gunny. If it's still there 2 weeks from now I'll buyit back.
FWIW...I'm having a severe jones for an M1 carbine...an IAI will do...but I don't know where it fits in the puzzle or what I'm willing to trade to afford it.
Dizos
November 6, 2003, 06:30 PM
I have the same philosophy, but I also feel a light rimfire rifle is in order. My collection:
Rifle: Springfield M1A
Rimfire: Ruger 10/22
Carbine: Winchester M1 Carbine
Handgun: Springfield XD 40
Shotgun: Winchester Super X2 Practical
Can you tell I like autoloaders? :)
-- Dizos
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