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AMBASSADOR
October 30, 2009, 05:59 PM
Just bought 500 Star Line nickle plated 357 magnum cases.Should I pass them through the sizing die before I load them?.First time loading new brass.

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atblis
October 30, 2009, 06:01 PM
Yes you should.

Ateam-3
October 30, 2009, 06:06 PM
I always do.

buck460XVR
October 30, 2009, 06:13 PM
This is from Starline's FAQs on their website......


Does one need to full-length size brass prior to loading?



Generally speaking, Starline cases require no resizing prior to loading. Due to variances in diameter of different bullet types, it is a good practice to size the case only as far down as the bullet seating depth. When full length sizing is required, it will be noted in the box with the brass. The only Starline case that requires full sizing is the 454 Casull.

Randy1911
October 30, 2009, 06:18 PM
I would still resize them to make sure they are perfectly round.

ranger335v
October 30, 2009, 07:10 PM
"Should I pass them through the sizing die before I load them?."

Naw. All that would do is make sure they are the same size. :D

ReloaderFred
October 30, 2009, 08:16 PM
It's my practice to size all new brass. It's just one more step in assuring a good product.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Beelzy
October 30, 2009, 08:37 PM
I look at the case mouths, if they are all pretty round and no dents are present I load them.

Pistol cases are more forgiving than rifle cases, I always run those through the sizer.

jr_roosa
October 30, 2009, 08:59 PM
If they aren't too beat up, your expander die should take the dents out of the case mouth.

I'd size them anyway like everybody else says. If you don't really care, then go to town you probably won't hurt anything, but your case mouth tension might be inconsistent.

For me, the nice thing about reloading is making a high quality cartridge in the end that does just what i want it to do. Part of that is consistency. If you do it because you like convenient and inexpensive ammo that works pretty well than there's nothing wrong with that either.

-J.

billybob44
October 30, 2009, 09:44 PM
You've got pretty looking NEW nickle brass-probably will load pretty looking jacketed bullets-take the extra step, and make them the best you can do==RESIZE!!!!:what::neener::what:

Maj Dad
October 31, 2009, 12:08 AM
Bulk brass gets bumped and banged in shipping and necks get slightly out of round on some. Best to put them all in their best shape by at least running them in half way so that bullets seat without shaving/smashing/&%$#@... I resize all new brass regardless. :cool:

Steve C
October 31, 2009, 12:21 AM
I've reloaded thousands of new cases over the years, mostly in .357 and .41 mag. I don't resize them though I would if there was a case that had a dented mouth or some other such reason. I do usually chamfer the case mouth a bit to get get rid of the sharp edge inside and out.

New brass has always dropped into the chambers and fallen out just like factory ammo so IMO resizing them right off the bat just adds one less loading you will get out of it.

necks get slightly out of round on some

True but straight walled pistol cartridges need to be belled and the expander portion takes care of any out of round

Beelzy
October 31, 2009, 01:30 AM
There you go, SteveC mentioned what I forgot to.......at least chamfer the inside of the
case mouth. That will help keep bullet shaving from occuring.

Noveldoc
November 1, 2009, 10:44 AM
Just got some Starline in 44 spl and mag that loaded fine out of the bag.

Tom

Grumulkin
November 1, 2009, 11:24 AM
I think that when you buy a box of ammo, you should pull the bullets and resize the cases just to make sure the ammo is as good as can be. Then weigh the powder to make sure the factory got it right. Finally, last but not least, weigh the bullets and replace those not dead on the money weight wise.

psyop
November 1, 2009, 11:36 AM
Resize and debur all New Brass

Buy a box of Ammo.......Blasphemy, Maybe for the brass.

No factory ammo ever performed in my frearms like my handloads, and there is a reason why.
If factory ammo performs better than your handload( directed at no one in particular) then you need to do some more research and development.

lgbloader
November 1, 2009, 08:46 PM
Should I pass them through the sizing die before I load them?.

Yup... I would also trim them to uniform case length and champfer/deburr.

LGB

Roccobro
November 1, 2009, 09:04 PM
I think that when you buy a box of ammo, you should pull the bullets and resize the cases just to make sure the ammo is as good as can be. Then weigh the powder to make sure the factory got it right. Finally, last but not least, weigh the bullets and replace those not dead on the money weight wise.

Can you say Mexican Match? People been doing it for decades.

Justin

Clarence
November 1, 2009, 10:48 PM
I always size new brass.

Grumulkin
November 2, 2009, 06:52 AM
http://www.orchardphoto.com/h29zo99.jpgI don't resize new brass. It's a waste of time. Of course, if I did my results would probably be better.

Supposedly, resizing and even trimming new brass is supposed to give more accurate ammo, grow hair on your chest and give you much more sexual stamina. Actually, I've found that cartridges reloaded from new brass are never less accurate than those made from resized and trimmed brass and frequently give better accuracy.

But, I know; you guys need something to do.

cerberus65
November 2, 2009, 09:19 AM
All fired pistol brass goes through the resizer and gets trimmed the first time I reload it. So new brass would get the same treatment. That way I know what I'm dealing with.

Noveldoc
November 2, 2009, 12:45 PM
Inspected my new 44 SPL and Mag brass from Starline then primed and loaded with no resize. It worked fine in my Blackhawk.

I used a 200 gr. full wadcutter so no issue with gripping the bullet.

Tom

ljnowell
November 2, 2009, 01:04 PM
I have bought .45 colt and 45 acp brass from starline. Both needed sizing beforeloading.

Marlin 45 carbine
November 2, 2009, 04:12 PM
being nickled brass I would clean the die first and run them, lubeing every 5th case. I'll betcha you'll find several that needed sizeing.

Atroxus
November 2, 2009, 06:58 PM
Anyone know how many times you can reload new brass? Also how do you tell when your brass is too old to reload anymore?

Grumulkin
November 3, 2009, 01:00 PM
Anyone know how many times you can reload new brass? Also how do you tell when your brass is too old to reload anymore?
That depends on the brass, the particular gun its fired in, how high the pressure is of the cartridges its used for, the method used for resizing, the design of the brass and probably some things I've forgotten.

I've had some brass that only went 3 or 4 reloadings before it had to be discarded. In other circumstances, the number of times brass can be reloaded is over 20. The wide variability means you have to know how to evaluate brass to be sure its reloadable. The mouths should not be cracked and the primer pockets should not be loose. You should also run a wire down the inside of the case to make sure a head separation isn't starting.

All that said, the first thing to fail on straight walled cases fired in relatively low pressure cartridges will be the mouth of the case which will start to crack.

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