[Min]

Which one would you go for?

[jc2]

Easy--S&W (preferably a 1076).

[Marko Kloos]

It depends.

The Glock 20 is a great gun, and holds a lot of bullets. The S&W 10XX-series, however, is flatter and easier to tote. They're also built like tanks, and very mild shooters.

I'm a big fan of the S&W 1076 and 1066. The 1066 was one gun I never should have sold.

[Min]

Oh, I meant the Smith and Wesson revolver. But the 10XX series pistols are nice, too.

[Majic]

The Smith 610. Revolvers are much more fun. :neener:

[JNewell]

Wow, would you rather have an English muffin with butter, or raspberry sherbert? ;)

The 610, like all N-frames, is a wonderful revolver. But it weighs almost as much as a Saturn and has somewhat more metal in it.

The G20 is a durable and reliable platform for the 10mm but (obviously) it's an autoloader, and has the possibility of high-cap pre-ban magazines. In addition, you can use aftermarket barrels from a variety of sources to change it to fire, for example, .40 S&W. You don't need that in the revolver because there's no "chamber" like that in the pistol. (Of course, if you want 10mm, maybe you don't care about firing .40 S&W -- but I have been doing so lately in a G29 because I can get .40 S&W for less than dirt cheap.)

I think Glocks are kind of unique in their grip shape and trigger feel. You may not like them -- then again, many people love 'em. If you like Glocks, the G20 is a great pistol and weighs literally about half of what the 610 weighs.

I have an idea...buy...one of each! ;)

[agtman]

That's a tough one.

For me, both the 10mm Glocks and Smiths have great appeal.

I have a bunch of "preban" 15-rd mags for my G20, so it's a highly reliable, accurate and relatively light-weight 15+1 10mm gun. OTOH, if I didn't have all the hi-caps, the G20 would just be a large, but still very reliable, accurate 10+1 gun. (But 10+1 is the same capacity you can get in the substantially smaller G29).

My 4.25" 1076 and 5" 1006 are also highly reliable, durable and very accurate 10mm pistols - with 9+1 capacity.

As noted, these single-stack Smiths lay very flat, which enhances concealability, more so than the fat-gripped Glock design. Some claim that the all-steel 10XX S&Ws, like their 45XX counterparts, are "too heavy" for all-day CCW. I don't find that to be the case with the slightly-more-packable 1076. But with the right belt and holster combo, neither the 1076 nor the 1006 are any worse for CCW than a 5" 1911. In any event, that all-steel weight, along with a bit stiffer Wolff recoil spring than the factory-issue, definitely dampens recoil when firing real 10mm loads.

So you need to sort out the factors that matter to you: capacity vs. concealability vs weight (for all-day CCW).

[J Scott]

I was in your shoes not long ago. Decided to be patient and wait for a Smith 10xx. Eureka!! I hit the jackpot with a 1066 (box, manual, 2 mags and cleaning tools). Original owner said maybe 20 rounds fired!!
Anyway, put some 170gr Norma's down range this past weekend. A very nice pistol indeed. Be patient and hold out for a S&W.

J Scott

[JBP]

Can't beat those S&W N frames for accuracy. I have 610s in both 6 1/2" and 3" barrels & they are both tack drivers. Wouldn't mind picking up one with a 4" barrel. That said I'm real fond of both my G20 & G29. 15 & 10 rounds is better than 6. Would love to get a S&W 10XX and I'm still kicking :banghead: myself for passing on a NIB Delta Elite for $450 about three years ago.

[TheeBadOne]

The Glock was designed to fire the full house 10mm loads for it's entire service life, the S&W is designed with the FBI mid loads as it's basis. It'll hold up just fine, but nowhere as long as the Glock.
Add to the Glock a 6" hunting barrel and a 3 1/2 lb trigger, giddy up!

>Edit< comments meant for S&W 10mm autos

[GeneS]

I've shot a couple of 610's. They are very nice. If you want a revo it would be hard to beat. I've had a 1006 for 12+ years. It's a good, solid, accurate pistol. The Glock is better.

[jc2]

the S&W is designed with the FBI mid loads as it's basis. It'll hold up just fine, but nowhere as long as the Glock.
Boy, this is really bad information! The S&W 10-series was designed long before the advent of "FBI-Lite" loads, was designed for full-power loads and holds up very well to full-power loads. If I had to pick one to break first (especially small parts), I'd pick the Glock (but I definitely wouldn't give any odds), and I have not heard of the kB!s you get with occassionally with the Glocks (though my next 10mm purchase will likely be a G29).

[Marko Kloos]

The S&W 10xx-series pistols are among the most durable autopistol designs I've ever seen. Mine chugged through many bags of full-power 10mm loads (Georgia Arms Shear Power Plus), and I never noticed any signs of wear...premature or otherwise.

[Ohen Cepel]

I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of the S&W auto's.
Had bad luck with one early on and have never liked them since.

I have looked at the 10series and always keep an eye out for one, but it would have to be a deal for me to do it.

That being said, I have a 20 with extended barrel, several standard cap mags and I love it! Put the +2 extenders (or bigger if you get the Dawson's) and you have more ammo than you'll ever need in a pistol.

If 18rds of 10mm can't fix it then you need air support.

[Beren]

I found a new-in-box S&W 1076 earlier this year that I overpaid for, but I'm happy with it. Extremely accurate, fun to shoot, thin, speaks with authority. It's not what I carry daily (my G32 currently holds that particular honor), but it's the pride of my collection. I mean, it's beautiful. Then again, it only has to compete with Glocks for the title of "most beautiful", and Glocks are..well...y'know.

I also owned a Glock 20 that I never should've traded. Someday, when I find one for the right price, I'll buy one again. My advice? Get a 1076, then a Glock 20. You'll be happy with both, just don't pay through the nose for normal-cap (15 rounds) mags! I think I still have three, unless I sold them. I'd better check on that when I get home, I think I did..ack.

[buzz_knox]

SIG 220ST in 10mm. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he? ;)

[Min]

As long as we're dreaming, I'd like to see a HK USP or Compact in 10mm.

[buzz_knox]

Wasn't it David DiFabio who had a .40 USP converted to 10mm?

[M58]

Which fits your hand best.
Have the G20 and M1086.
M1086 fits me better.
YMMV

[tlhelmer]

I agree with M58. It depends on what fits you best. I prefer the Glock 20 in 10 mm.

It is hard to beat 15 rounds of 10 mm

[JNewell]

The only lick on the 10xx pistols IMO is the number of parts and the generally tool-intensive disassembly process. We are not talking about a 1911 or a Glock that can be completely stripped with little more than your hands or a single pin-pusher. Having said that, does this really matter to most of us, day to day? Things like having to remove the rear sight to strip the slide kind of bug me, but in real life I don't actually think it's a big deal. My experience mirrors those above on the reliability and accuracy of the 10xx.

[benewton]

Min:
I'm on your side, I'd love to see a USPc 10mm...

I'm just not all that sure I'd like to be firing full bore loads with it, and there is, of course, a thing called practice.

But, I do love my .40 S&W, USPc and am giving some thought to a 10mm, though the P3AT is more likely to come home first.

Still, short barrels and magnum cartridges seem, to me, like a very bad trade off between "balls of fire", recoil, and the actual velocity increase achieved.

'course, I've my own drum to march to, so what do I know?

[Sean Smith]

Basically, it boils down to what style of gun you like more. If you can abide the Glock's fat grips (and the Glock 20 has FAT grips) and wonky trigger feel, it is a tough package to beat. If you want a more traditional double action trigger system and a single-stack grip, the S&W 10xx series guns all get great reviews.

The 610 is a killer revolver... wish I still had my Classic 6.5". Way accurate, nice trigger and the N-frame will take any ammo you throw at it, easily.

[10-Ring]

I liked shooting 10mm from my 1076. Fun gun. My problems at the time I sold it were that ammo was tough to find at an affordable price & the grip just didn't fit me.

[Guntalk]

How about a Kimber 10mm 1911? They made a limited run of those this year.

[Carnitas]

When it initially came out it was reported that the G20 was...

"The Most Powerful Handgun in The World"...

based on the total, on-tap, foot-pounds in the fully loaded gun. You gotta love that.

The fact that they are easy shooters and accurate enough to make good on the long legs of the 10mm is even better.

[Black Snowman]

If this is going to be a range-only gun my vote goes for the 610-1 (the current production version). They are the only S&W gun I've ever really WANTED. Nothing wrong with S&W but I like my revolvers big, heavy, and with unfluted cylinders and the 610-1 is definately that.

Nothing wrong with the Glock 20 though. You can get police trade-ins from CDNN investments for under $400. No standard cap mags though.

[denfoote]

I already did. Glock 29!!

[caz223]

I have a G20, a razorback, and just ordered a 610, the 610 should be in sometime next week.
Get them both.
Or as Tamara once said, "Collect the set".