November 5, 2003, 08:54 PM
I just brought my S&W 586 4" blued .357 home today. I ordered it online so this is the first time I got to hold it. It is not as nice as my other one that I sold a few years ago but it is still pretty good. It is a little looser and the blue is not as deep but it is still better looking than Ruger's blued guns.:barf: I love Rugers but they don't do blue as well as S&W.
Anyway, the SN# is: AHP59xx, under that it reads: MOD 586 with no dash. What year was it made and does it need to go back to S&W for a modifcation? I have heard that the early 586s were recalled. What was the recall for and do I need it? Will S&W pay for the shipping both ways?
November 5, 2003, 09:02 PM
586 no dash and -1 are the ones the have the recall. if there is no M in the yoke.
S&W will pay shipping and they replace the hammer nose and the firing pin bushing.
AHC starts in Jan 1986
November 5, 2003, 09:12 PM
My SN# starts with AHP not AHC. There is no M on the yoke but there is a "E25" in addition to a stamped part number. What is "E25"?
What the heck is a "hammer nose"? Is it on the hammer? What happens if I don't get it replaced? Is it dangerous? Where can I read more about this recall?
November 5, 2003, 09:27 PM
I found this info:
"SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1,
586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS
RECALL: Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:
581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1,
681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1
Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.
Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.
Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:
In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.
Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.
Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.
You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.
Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.
One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:
Smith & Wesson
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101
Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.
We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers.
Shotgun News November 1, 1989; page ?
Guns & Ammo, December 1987; page 6"
November 6, 2003, 01:38 AM
"Deduction, My dear Watson, Deduction. AHC starts the year so AHP must be in there somewhere, about 140,000 later Probably late 86.
Hammer nose = firing pin on the hammer, that little wiggly thing.:)
E25 is just an assembly mark.
Some folks have just gone ahead and left it alone and shot their's, I recommend getting it done. IIRC I think it had more to do with some soft primer cups flowing into the firing pin bushing during firing of 357's, than the firing pin or bushing.
November 6, 2003, 04:26 AM
Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.
Go ahead and send it to them. It'll probably come back a little tighter too.
November 6, 2003, 08:25 AM
"Go ahead and send it to them. It'll probably come back a little tighter too."
If that is true, I will definatly do it! I doubt it is loose enough for them to mess with. It just doesn't have the super solid lockup that I like. It has a little wiggle at full lockup.
March 19, 2009, 05:20 AM
I'm going to buy a S&W 581; I've to do any modification to it ?
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