November 2009 Rimfire Match:


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Maverick223
November 4, 2009, 12:10 PM
This one is open to any and EVERY 22 caliber (and 17 caliber) rimfire rifle including 22 Mag and 17HMR. This match is meant to be challenging and FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle.

You may enter with multiple rifles.

There is Two Optics Divisions:
->25 yards for iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots
->50 yards for any Scope or Magnified sighting device.


The Target (Same for Both Divisions) Is Linked Below...
http://www.mtadl.com/uploads/Image/Shared/flags/dartboard.jpg

Edited by Art per request:

There are Three Rifle Classes:
->Unlimited/Target Rifles (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, high magnification optics [in the appropriate division] may be used, all .17cal rifles should be classified as "Unlimited Target")
->Limited Class Target Rifles (defined as .22cal ONLY target rifles that are not complete custom target rifles, custom accessories, high magnification optics, and custom modifications are permitted)
->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles)

Both Target Classes can be shot from any position, Sporting Class is shot from any unsupported position. When you are satisfied you've done your best post, or PM me a photo of your target to me for scoring with the following information.



10 shots should be fired into the dart board target. Scoring will be the same as any darts game...50pts for center (double) bullseye, 25 for the green single bulls, all "pie slices" are scored as marked (using the numbers on the outside) with the EXCEPTION of the green and red rings. These are the double (outside ring) and triple (inside) ring and are worth double or triple the value noted for that section. All shots must lie a minimum of half-way between the higher value section or it will be demoted to the lower value (or unweighted section) of the target.

Target should be printed on standard 8.5x11" white paper with 1" margins. All submissions due by the last day of November 2009.

Shoot straight and more importantly...Have fun!

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Maverick223
November 4, 2009, 12:22 PM
My apologies for being so slow with the new match, I am just getting over a bad case of the cold/allergies/virus, but am finally feeling good enough to stare at a computer screen for a couple hours today.

Again thank you to all the supporters of the October Match as well as this one.

:)

P51D
November 4, 2009, 09:17 PM
Hi, Mav. I can't get the dartboard to re-size to fit within one inch margins. I'm using Microsoft Office Picture Manager. It always seems to re-size back to the original size, which on my system, produces margins of about 3/8 inch. Anybody have any suggestions?

HuntAndFish
November 4, 2009, 10:58 PM
Okay, I used Word and your JPEG to create a 7.5" wide target centered in the page with the aspect ratio locked. Then Adobe to PDF the file. Hopefully it will attach...

ETA: Print with no scaling. Is this too big?

HuntAndFish
November 4, 2009, 11:12 PM
Ha! Of course I made it big...so I can hit it! :)

Maverick223
November 5, 2009, 11:26 AM
H&F, Thank you for the resizing and reformatting of the target. FWIW, I just chose 1" margins due to limitations of some printers, but 1/2" (7.5" target) should be plenty for any made within the last couple decades. ;)

essayons21
November 5, 2009, 01:58 PM
Hmm.. I haven't taken my .17HMR out to the range in a while... now I have a reason!

Maverick223
November 5, 2009, 02:16 PM
I am glad that some one else supports the decision to add the 17cal (rimfire only) to the lineup. I have yet to start ordering parts for my 10/22 .17cal conversion (or even make a firm decision on what parts to go with), so I doubt it will make it out for this match...but next month it should be ready to go. :D

P51D
November 5, 2009, 05:40 PM
Thanks, H&F. So when you print your dartboard out, it's 7.5 inches? Mine is printing closer to 7 inches even. But if we can all agree that it should be 7.5 inches diameter, I'll just adjust it to the right size on a copier and call it good.

Mav - will all rimfire calibers be lumped together, or will there be separate categories for .17, .22, and 5 mm mag (if any of you have one). I've read that the .17's are in a class of their own when it come to superb accuracy. :eek:

Thanks

P51D

Maverick223
November 5, 2009, 09:42 PM
Mine is printing closer to 7 inches even. But if we can all agree that it should be 7.5 inches diameter, I'll just adjust it to the right size on a copier and call it good.I haven't printed it off yet, but it is probably 7.5" with the small amount of white space on the edges of the image. I think you are good to go.

Mav - will all rimfire calibers be lumped together, or will there be separate categories for .17, .22, and 5 mm mag (if any of you have one). I've read that the .17's are in a class of their own when it come to superb accuracy.I have very limited experience with .17cal. Heck, I don't believe that I have even fired a .17Mach2. Do you think it will sweep the competition? If so, I think we may be better off creating a separate division for the 17s. Just let me know what you guys want to do.

:)

HuntAndFish
November 5, 2009, 11:33 PM
So when you print your dartboard out, it's 7.5 inches?

When I print it with no scaling it is 7 3/8" wide. There must be 1/16" on each side in the JPEG that is white space.

P51D
November 6, 2009, 04:52 AM
Thanks, H&F. I'll size my target dia. to 7 3/8". P51D

Red Tornado
November 6, 2009, 07:32 PM
Okay, stupid question. Does unsupported position mean the use of a sling in prone or sitting is not legal? Or does it even allow using a bench but without bags? I'm going to try to shoot it tomorrow, but I don't want to cheat.
Thanks,
RT

Maverick223
November 6, 2009, 08:40 PM
Not a stupid question, basically the rifle should not rest upon anything other than you. A sling is permitted and encouraged, resting your arm on your knee while sitting is also allowed. Bags, bipods, and fenceposts are all means of support and will therefore be classified as Unlimited Target. Shoot up a storm. ;)

HuntAndFish
November 6, 2009, 09:25 PM
-HuntAndFish
-Ruger 10/22, stock except sights and trigger
-Tech-Sights (peep)
-CCI 40 gr std vel
-standing/sling/elbows on range bag
-25 yds
-indoors, pistol range

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/IMG_1271.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/IMG_1272.jpg

I'm gonna let Mav score these. :)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/IMG_1211.jpg

Maverick223
November 6, 2009, 09:55 PM
WOW, that is a great deal more difficult (to score) than I thought...but I'll give it a go. That was 10 shots...right?

First appears to be: 20(x2), 18(x2), 10, 3, DOUBLE BULLS(50), & BULLS(25x3)= 214

Second looks like: 20(x2), 5(x2), 18(x3), 4, 1, & BULLS(25)= 134

That is enough to put you in the lead (and runner up) for the Sporting class. ;)

HuntAndFish
November 6, 2009, 11:10 PM
It was 10 rounds on each. Thanks Mav.

Maverick223
November 6, 2009, 11:25 PM
No problem...just checking. :)

mjsmith1223
November 8, 2009, 08:52 PM
Looks like fun but I am going to have to sit this month out. Gonna be traveling too much.

Maverick223
November 8, 2009, 09:23 PM
10-4, Mr. Smith, make sure and check in next month. :)

Orlando
November 9, 2009, 12:20 PM
I would think the 17 should be in a class of their own, IMO

Maverick223
November 9, 2009, 01:23 PM
I would think the 17 should be in a class of their own, IMO10-4, will make the unlimited class for 17 and make a new target class for 22 only. :)

Maverick223
November 9, 2009, 01:41 PM
Sent a PM to have the OP changed...should include a third rifle class shortly. Te third class is a "Limited Target Class" which excludes .17cal rifles and complete custom rigs (custom accessories, parts and modifications are permitted). Basically this exception only serves to exclude Olympic class target rifles.

Sound good?

:)

Art Eatman
November 9, 2009, 04:20 PM
The opening post is edited to read:

"There are Three Rifle Classes:
->Unlimited/Target Rifles (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, high magnification optics [in the appropriate division] may be used, all .17cal rifles should be classified as "Unlimited Target")
->Limited Class Target Rifles (defined as .22cal ONLY target rifles that are not complete custom target rifles, custom accessories, high magnification optics, and custom modifications are permitted)
->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles)

Both Target Classes can be shot from any position, Sporting Class is shot from any unsupported position. When you are satisfied you've done your best post, or PM me a photo of your target to me for scoring with the following information."

If there are still problems, PM me and I'll get to it later this evening, somewhere around dark-thirty.

Art

Maverick223
November 9, 2009, 04:38 PM
Thank you Art, looks great...you are the man. :)

HuntAndFish
November 13, 2009, 09:25 PM
No target this week since I am winning. :)

Maverick223
November 13, 2009, 09:38 PM
No target this week since I am winning.I will be getting out to shoot pretty soon, it has finally quit raining and I am finally over my 2-wk. long allergies/cold/virus junk. I think I will take the 10/22 out one last time before it is decommissioned (turned into a target 10/17)...then hopefully all of the parts will arrive an adequate period prior to the terminus of the match and I will be able to fire the new version as well. :D

Orlando
November 13, 2009, 10:03 PM
You arent getting off that easy HuntAndFish :) I been down with the flu this week. Hopefully I'll be back on my feet and back to the range soon

Maverick223
November 13, 2009, 10:16 PM
Wishing you well, Orlando. :)

shootr
November 21, 2009, 12:57 PM
H&F -

What rear sight is that on your Ruger?

Maverick223
November 21, 2009, 03:52 PM
What rear sight is that on your Ruger?Tech-Sights, front and rear I believe.

:)

HuntAndFish
November 21, 2009, 06:14 PM
Yep, Tech Sights, front and rear.

http://www.tech-sights.com/

shootr
November 21, 2009, 09:49 PM
Thx guys!

ifit
November 21, 2009, 09:52 PM
got to shoot yesterday

-ifit
-colt m4 .22lr
-red dot non-magnified
-american eagle 38gr hp
-sitting/front sandbag
-25yards
-outdoors

i beleive i fall under the unlimited class

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/242.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/309.jpg

Maverick223
November 21, 2009, 10:03 PM
i beleive i fall under the unlimited classNope, I think you will fit nicely in the "Limited Target Class" because it is a .22cal. Good shooting, the target is a little hard to see; does 7, 7, 16, 5, 25, 25, 25, 25, 50, 50 = 235 look about right?

:)

ifit
November 21, 2009, 11:24 PM
looks good to me mav, thanks
:)

Maverick223
November 22, 2009, 12:07 AM
No problem, good shooting...you wore that bullseye out.

:)

Orlando
November 22, 2009, 06:17 PM
I not in this one guys. In the outdoors my eyes cant see the different colors as they are small and just seem washed out. Maybe I'll try it again earlier in the morning before the sun gets behind me.
Not a very friendly target for iron sights and my eyes

wade rigsby
November 22, 2009, 06:37 PM
this looks like fun I must give it a go

Maverick223
November 22, 2009, 07:44 PM
Not a very friendly target for iron sights and my eyesSorry about that, will change next month. Everyone, feel free to suggest targets for next months match, towards the end of this one.

:)

Orlando
November 22, 2009, 07:51 PM
No problems Maverick
I really like the idea of that target but I just cant see it.

Maverick223
November 22, 2009, 10:32 PM
I really like the idea of that target but I just cant see it.I also really liked the target...in theory (and even decided to reduce the number of shots to make it "easier" to score), but in practice...it doesn't work too well.

:)

purchawk
November 24, 2009, 07:56 AM
Maverick:

The weather in the Midwest will keep us off the outdoor range from now until spring, with the exception of a few mild days.

Can you devise some variation on the contest for 50 ft. indoor ranges?

Orlando
November 24, 2009, 08:07 AM
purchawk - It is already set up for 50 yd range also.

purchawk
November 24, 2009, 10:58 AM
Orlando: Our indoor range is only 50 FEET. That's a little over 16-1/2 yards, but it would work with very small targets. I download benchrest targets that have a tiny, tiny 10 ring at the center of a one-inch outer bull. If you are resting on a normal rest, and not one of those screw-the-gun-down things, this is a challenging target. Hard to score, however.

Maverick223
November 24, 2009, 01:41 PM
Hard to score, however.On that note, why don't we just use the same target and make a new division for shooting 50ft indoors why don't you design a modified target that fits to a page (instead of just one) and shoot two rounds in each one (will need two sheets, but only shoot 5 small targets). It would probably be best to only use irons for this new division. The target is pretty difficult to score as is.

EDIT: See above...does that sound fair enough for everyone?

:)

Orlando
November 24, 2009, 04:48 PM
Sorry didnt notice the "ft" not "yds"

HuntAndFish
November 25, 2009, 02:13 AM
We are on a Holiday shortened week so I'm going to the range Wednesday. Think I'm going to change my POA on this target to the triple 20 and see what happens.

As for a 50' target, here is one that may work.

P51D
November 25, 2009, 07:43 AM
H&F - If I can ever get to the range :cuss:, the triple 20's are going to be my strategy as well :D

Good luck!

P51D

Maverick223
November 25, 2009, 10:40 AM
As for a 50' target, here is one that may work.I don't know how on earth it could be fairly (for 50ft. and others) scored. I think we should consider the indoor shooters in target selection next month.

:)

HuntAndFish
November 25, 2009, 09:58 PM
-HuntAndFish
-Ruger 10/22, stock except sights and trigger
-Tech-Sights (peep)
-CCI 40 gr std vel
-standing/sling/elbows on range bag
-25 yds
-indoors, pistol range


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/RimfireNov25-01.jpg

Score it for me Maverick223. I don't think this worked out for me scorewise.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/RimfireNov25-02.jpg

I'd have been better off to raise the aimpoint a tick for 5 rounds and then clobber the bull with 5 rounds. Plus I really need to be prone to shoot this target well. Wish I could find a 25 yd indoor range that would allow rifle field positions.

ETA: I'm reading this score as a 165.

Maverick223
November 25, 2009, 10:23 PM
H&F, I love the target (On-Target makes it so easy to score). I see it as: 5, 1x3, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20 = 168.

:)

Maverick223
November 25, 2009, 10:26 PM
Does anyone here want to volunteer themselves (or someone else :evil:) for making a score-board (that is able to be updated)? FlyinBryan usually takes care of it (and I honestly don't know how), but I haven't heard from him in weeks (if you are out there or if you are a friend of Bryan drop me a message).

:)

HuntAndFish
November 26, 2009, 12:43 AM
Yeah, you are correct. That's a 5, not an upside down 2. :) The 2 pie slice is black and is in the lower right quadrant.

Maverick223
November 26, 2009, 12:46 AM
Yeah that's a 5, not an upside down 2.But, but, but...I thought a 5 was an upside down 2. :uhoh:

Thanks for making life easier by using On-Target. :)

HuntAndFish
November 26, 2009, 12:58 AM
You're very welcome Mav. Thank you Jeffrey Block whereever you are.

My only excuse is that I was drinking while fixing up the target in the software. ;)

shootr
November 30, 2009, 10:53 AM
Let's see if I can do this...

Savage .17 HMR, scoped, bench, 50 yards. Federal and CCI .17 grain TnT.

Lots of fun!

Maverick223
November 30, 2009, 09:49 PM
Dang, I just don't have enough time to do anything this time of year...and when I do, it rains. :banghead: Maybe...hopefully next month will be less hectic...but I doubt it.

What say ye about making the standard range 25ft. irons and 50ft optics for the next couple months, and just use wee targets.

shootr, the first looks like: 50+50+25+25+25+25+25+16+12+5=258
The second: 50+25+25+25+25+14+9+3+2+2=180
The third: 50+50+25+25+25+19+17+17+17+15=260
The final: 50+50+25+25+25+25+25+12+12+10=259

Great showing shooter and glad you enjoyed the match.

Everyone, feel free to make additional submissions until midnight your time. :)

Maverick223
December 1, 2009, 10:00 PM
Well results are in...and participation has slacked a bit, very likely due to the holidays, weather, and sickness...I know all of the aforementioned contributed to my lack of showing.

25yd. Limited Target: ifit
25yd. Sporting: HuntAndFish
50yd. Unlimited: shootr

How do we want to proceed from here? Cancel further matches until spring?, Reduce the number of classifications?, Reduce the range for indoor ranges?, Chastise others (like myself) for not participating? If we do want to continue through the winter months Orlando sent me a good (easy to score) target that looks like fun...here (http://www.targetz.com/targetzlib/20010.pdf) is a link to it.

:)

HuntAndFish
December 1, 2009, 11:27 PM
As long as you keep putting targets up to shoot, I'll keep shooting them. It's easy for us Maverick223, think of yourself and do the right thing for you.

Maverick223
December 2, 2009, 12:19 AM
I will put up targets as long as there is a demand for it. Will be starting the next match tonight it's late...might procrastinate till tomorrow.

:)

shootr
December 2, 2009, 09:36 AM
I'm with H&F.

Like everyone else, I'm busy as can be sometimes and unable to get out. However, I look forward to every excuse to break out a rimfire and these matches are great fun.

I thought the rules and classifications were fine and loved the target. The stars will be fun too. If you post, I'll play when I can! Thanks for your effort.

Orlando
December 2, 2009, 05:01 PM
Here is a suggestion
Since everyone is very busy around the Holidays how about running this next match for two months instead of one?

If you do decide to use the target with the stars, I would say one shot only at each star. If there are more than 24 holes in the target you deduct one point for each extra hole.
If the hole touches any part of the star, no matter how little it counts as 1 point
Shoot any position, bench, prone whatever as these are fairly small targets
These are only suggestions, run it how you feel is best

Maverick223
December 2, 2009, 05:35 PM
What I will do is extend the match if necessary...since I just drafted it...and didn't see your post until afterwards.

New match is up and running...see the 2009 New Years Eve Rimfire Match (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=6078885#post6078885) for more details.

:)

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