[H&Hhunter]

Here are some things that are dead a$$ed wrong that will mess up your hunt big time.

1. "Hold high for an uphill shot hold low for a downhill shot..." WRONG WRONG WRONG!! Whether up or downhill a steep angle decreases your hold. You hold lower for either a steep uphill or downhill shot. It has to do with the angular vector of gravity acting on the bullet. A 45 deg angle either up or downhill decreases your bullets drop by something like 25%.

2. "All deer hunting in Texas is baited and behind a high fence." WRONG AGAIN! I've hunted Texas for years and but for one exception have never hunted a deer over a corn feeder or behind a high fence. There are some huge free range ranches and public areas in Texas that offer some very good free range deer hunting at some very reasonable prices. You just gotta look around. And I ain't telling you guys my secret spots so don't ask.:evil:

3. "Hunting behind hounds is unfair and easy that it shouldn't be considered a true hunt." Go book a bear or lion hunt in NM or some other place where it's still legal than come back and tell me how easy it was. Hound hunting is the most physically demanding hunt that you can possibly do. I guided behind hounds for year and number one problem I had was with clients who simply couldn't cut the physical aspects of the hunt.

4. "public land elk hunting in Colorado or anywhere for that matter is waste of time." I have to agree that if you don't know the area and you stick to the roads it can be a huge waste of time. But I have hunted every year in CO in some of the most used public areas and I have killed an elk every single year and most years two. The secret is, at least one ridge line over from the road and pick the most worstest looking steepest hell hole available then hunt the heck out of it.:)

[ArmedBear]

#4 is false. If you don't see animals from your ATV, there aren't any. Keep driving around. Please make noise. There's nothing over that ridge worth looking for.

[R.W.Dale]

#5. Deer have fashon sense and really do care about what you wear.

[USMC - Retired]

#6 Deer bed down and don't move in the heat of the day.

If this is true I've shot a good number of sleep walking deer!

[CoRoMo]

#7. Minimum adequate cartridge for elk is .270 Win.

I get so tired of hearing that line. It is pure horse poop.

I've never heard #2. Is that an old myth or just a line of BS that is spout from the lips of those who've never been to Texas? I've hunted deer there; no fences.

[oneounceload]

I have killed an elk every single year and most years two.

wow, since when did CO change the rules to allow more than one? When I lived there, one was all you got, of course back then there was no draw either

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

3. "Hunting behind hounds is unfair and easy that it shouldn't be considered a true hunt."

Yeah, and there's a lot of variations on that. Substitute "hounds" with "gun" or "bait" or "a drive"...... Why, a member of THIS forum even, in the last two months, has stated openly that in his opinion, if you're not using a bow, you're in essence a sadistic cheater, because using a gun to hunt animals is like shootng fish in a barrel, or some such. :rolleyes:

[bad_aim_billy]

#8 Camo and scent cover are necessary to get close to game.

Tell that to the all the hunters over the centuries who never had access to such technology, yet somehow managed to pursue their quarry effectively...

[H&Hhunter]

I've never heard #2. Is that an old myth or just a line of BS that is spout from the lips of those who've never been to Texas?

CoRoMo.

I'd say option B check out post number three on this thread..http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=484353

Unfortunately I see/hear it all the time from uniformed ignoramuses that spend more time on the net than in the field.
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wow, since when did CO change the rules to allow more than one? When I lived there, one was all you got, of course back then there was no draw either

oneounceload,

Actually you can have three elk tags in one year in Colorado. One draw, one over the counter or left over and one private land only. I usually draw one or buy an over the counter and then get a left over.

I don't know when that changed it's been that way since I first moved to CO about ten years ago.

[H&Hhunter]

#7. Minimum adequate cartridge for elk is .270 Win.

I thought a .338 win was the absolute minimum for elk.;)

[qajaq59]

3. "Hunting behind hounds is unfair and easy that it shouldn't be considered a true hunt." I remember my boss saying, "What's so hard about hunting with hounds? You let them out of the truck, they chase the game up a tree, and you shoot it." I asked him why he left out the miles of hiking after the hounds between the letting them out of the truck, and the shooting? We didn't have ATVs back then.

[SniperStraz]

I thought a .338 win was the absolute minimum for elk.
If you want to follow a blood trail sure...
If you really want them DRT .50 BMG is the only option!

[CoRoMo]

I thought a .338 win was the absolute minimum for elk.;)

Funny guy!!:D

I was just popping back in, to post another one that really rubs me. It's just like the one I posted earlier.

#9. You have to use a magnum rifle for___________. (no offense H&H:D)

As you might guess, I haven't found much use for anything LARGER than a .270win.
But then again, I haven't hunted anything larger than moose!

[jbkebert]

#9. You have to use a magnum rifle for___________. (no offense H&H)

#10 Animals just explode when hit with a magnum cartridge and it ruins all the meat. No No No with a proper bullet a .300 win mag does no more damage than a .243 it just reaches out there a little furthur. My favorite rifle is the .270 win but if I am dropping big money to travel for a hunt. I am taking my big gun with; maybe more than needed but why take a chance.

[Rembrandt]

#11......By taking a bite from the raw heart of fresh killed game, you will inherit the cunning wisdom and spirits of the deceased critter.


(caution: in some cases therapy may be required)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Wildlife/Jeremydeer04-2.jpg

[H&Hhunter]

Always add a bay leaf for flavor as I see you did in that picture.:D

[H&Hhunter]

#12,

A properly shot animal will fall to the report.. WRONG! This is an old wives tail most properly shot critters will run some distance before falling and the bigger the critter is the further it may run even with a bullet though the heart. Cape buffalo have been known to live for over 30 minutes with a bullet through the heart. I've seen a perfectly shot whitetail run for over 200 yards with not much heart left.

#13,

Head shots are either a kill or a miss there is no way you can wound with a head shot. Absolutely WRONG! I've seen too many animals running around with their jaws blown off to buy that one. Unless you are super close and super a steady a head shot on your average critter is a recipe for disaster.

#14,

Ditto on neck shots. When they are done correctly they are spectacular killers but the is a whole lot of neck on a critter that will wound it leave almost no blood trail and cause the animal a long painful suffering death. Same as a misplaced head shot. My recommendation is that unless it is a special circumstance and you really know what you are doing leave the head and neck shots alone.

[vett3v]

wow, since when did CO change the rules to allow more than one? When I lived there, one was all you got, of course back then there was no draw either

It is legal to have two elk licenses as long as one of them is an antlerless elk from a unit listed on list B of page 5 of the Big Game Brochure.

What the DOW says.. heh

[TehK1w1]

#15 Hunting from a stand over bait is not sporting because the deer will always show up and wait there patiently for you to shoot them.

[nathan]

Watch out for heart worms . Just joking...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Wildlife/Jeremydeer04-2.jpg

[CajunBass]

Buckshot is no good for deer hunting.

I guess all those deer I've seen killed, and killed myself with buckshot died of fright or something. :D

[1911Tuner]

Another one that I hear from the people who aren't really anti hunting...but don't like the idea of harvesting Whitetail Deer:

"You oughta be ashamed! Huntin' poor, defensless Bambi."

If they'd ever stumbled onto a big buck in a rut, with his neck all swelled out and spoilin' for a fight with anything that crosses his path...they'd come away with a whole new view of poor, defensless Bambi...if they manage to come away from the encounter with all their parts intact and functional.

[qajaq59]

I guess all those deer I've seen killed, and killed myself with buckshot died of fright or something. Isn't it amazing all the things we're told wont work after we've already done them? :D

"You oughta be ashamed! Huntin' poor, defensless Bambi." Anyone that can't tell the difference between a cartoon character and a live animal isn't worth the time it takes to talk to them.

[CoRoMo]

I absolutely crawl out of my skin when I have to hear a critter loving doofus say something like,

"Why would you want to kill an animal like that?!? What did they ever do to you?"

Oh yes, I hunt only out of vengeance.:rolleyes: Pa-leeze.

[Art Eatman]

CoRoMo, if some gal pulls that on you, ask her if she drinks milk, and has she ever considered how that process began? :) You're a do-it-yourselfer after meat. Has she ever eaten a steak or hamburger? Is she afraid to get her hands dirty?

While I agree with H&H about the Bad Things which can arise from a poor shot at head or neck, I gotta ask Joe Average: So why don't you develop the skill level which keeps Bad Things from happening?

[Welsh Warrior]

A well placed shot beats caliber size in guns, and speed for archery.

[~z]

Wait is that a myth too?
~z

[qajaq59]

I once had a woman ask me why I would kill some ducks that I had in my kayak. Normally I just ignore people like that, but it was a freezing cold day, I had been out in the sea for a long time, and I just wasn't in the mood.

My answer was, "Lady, have you ever tried to get a live duck into an oven? They kick and scream and scatch!!!" Her husband came over and led her away, which I thought was an excellent idea. :banghead:

[Arkansas Paul]

It's already been said, but I hate it when people say that a magnum cartridge will destroy too much meat. It's all about the proper bullet and placement.
I also hate it when people who choose not to hunt with magnum cartridges talk to those who do like they have sawdust for brains. I don't hunt with a magnum, I use a .30-06 or a .280 Rem, but I certainly have no problem with those who choose to use the magnums. It's not your money or your shoulder. Leave em' alone.

[Pony Express]

If you really want them DRT .50 BMG is the only option!

.50 BMG? what kind of puny elk are you hunting? All the elk I've ever seen require at least a 105mm Howitzer.

Those darn elk bunkers they keep making...

[usmc1371]

Always pack a pistol for defense... So you are telling me that your pistol will work better than the big game rifle you have in your hands?

Never spend more than 100 bucks on a scope, it will work just as good as the more expensive ones... until its cold out and you breath on it.

Shooting a 375 at deer is just crazy!... well call me crazy but the two I shot this year made it a combined 40 yards. And thats only because the head shot buck rolled down a hill.

Hound hunting for bear and cougar is easy... Sure is. Easy to watch on tv. Book a hunt in the saw tooth mts and let me know how long it takes to catch up with the dogs.

[d2wing]

Ditto on H&H comment. As far as Texas goes, I just think it's a shame that
vast open areas are not open to the public for hunting in any state. In my state many places have been bought up and posted, turned in housing areas or leased for hunting that I used to hunt and I don't like it anywhere. Fortunately we have alot of public land.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

A well placed shot beats caliber size in guns, and speed for archery.

That's a myth? Well it's a myth I buy into fully then.

[wankerjake]

Why would you want to kill an animal like that?!? What did they ever do to you?"
Oh yes, I hunt only out of vengeance. Pa-leeze.

Most people have no concept of reality. When I tell people I'm going hunting next weekend they think I'm mean, and "compensating for something." The other 30+ days a year when I tell people I'm going out into the woods to look for deer, just to see them, they think I'm nuts! And eating cows is not only ok but you'd be weird if you didn't.

#6 Deer bed down and don't move in the heat of the day.

HUGE misconception. More deer for me I say but y'all who sit around drinking beer mid-day are missing out on good hunting. Deer and elk get up/get bored/get hungry just like anything does. 11am to 1pm I'm galssing my arse off...and finding animals.

[CajunBass]

Another one that I hear from the people who aren't really anti hunting...but don't like the idea of harvesting Whitetail Deer:

"You oughta be ashamed! Huntin' poor, defensless Bambi."


I had a lady ask me once, "Oh, How can you kill a deer?"

I told her, "With a 30/30 rifle."

She about cracked up laughing.

I never thought her original question was a serious one.

[WTBguns10kOK]

#9310 Big game won't use the trail for 2 weeks if you've traveled it.
(I actually tracked an elk last week that had stepped on my initial footprints later that night.)

#18324 Stand hunting won't work where still hunting is preferable.

#75 You need a rifle caliber that has magnum in the title.

#508 You need camo for deer hunting.

#4921 Taking the one with the biggest rack is the manliest thing to do, it affects meat quality.

[jordan1948]

#11......By taking a bite from the raw heart of fresh killed game, you will inherit the cunning wisdom and spirits of the deceased critter. I beleive this to be true and all you who don't should be ashamed. :neener:

[Fremmer]

Here's one that cost me a big buck:

"Don't worry, it's bore-sighted, and that's close enough; you don't need to sight it in."

Close enough turned out to be way off. I swear that buck was smirking as he trotted away.

[Koos Custodiet]

"Don't worry, it's bore-sighted, and that's close enough; you don't need to sight it in."

You believed that? *shakes head*

Hey, I have a really nice big bridge in San Francisco for sale, you might be interested, no?

[CoRoMo]

"This should be a good spot to hunt."




I've said it, and I've bought into this one, too many times to count!:D

[jimmyraythomason]

"Don't worry about it,the game warden NEVER comes this far in."

[Fremmer]

Yup, I was a beginner who borrowed a rifle on the morning of the hunt. Some lessons have to be learned the hard way.

[Quoheleth]

#1376 - "Huh? What's in the chili? Don't worry about it. You'll be just fine. Shuddup and eat."

#1377 - "There's TP in the outhouse."

#1378 - "Never had a snake/spider/scorpion problem in the outhouse before. Don't worry about it. You'll be just fine. Now shut the door on the way out."

Q

[Broken-Tengu]

I beleive this to be true and all you who don't should be ashamed. :neener:
Seconded.

[qajaq59]

#11......By taking a bite from the raw heart of fresh killed game, you will inherit the cunning wisdom and spirits of the deceased critter. I believe this to be true and all you who don't should be ashamed.

I think that works with vampires???

[Titan6]

#666 - You need to put this foul smelling artificially made factory scent on you so that the deer won't smell you

I have never used a scent of any kind. Still ate plenty of venison.

#421 Deer never look up

They look up, but normally only if they hear a sound.

[TheVeteran]

"Don't worry, it's not loaded!"

[caribou]

The ones that make me laugh is when fellas tell me 30-06 aint "Enough gun" for Alaska:rolleyes:
Or that a bigger bullet is more important than placment.....
Or that FMJ's are "Wounding bullets" :barf:

Some guys think too much and shoot too little.

[HGUNHNTR]

# 276

"Magnum" has no meaning whatsoever.

So if I hunt with a .17 Magnum, its overkill for deer, but a 7mm STW might not cut it.

On deer size game, there is little real world difference between a .243, and a .338. Both will kill deer just as dead 99.99% of the time.

We all love to argue calibers though, thats the real fun. :)

[CoRoMo]

Some guys think talk too much and shoot too little.

Maybe this.

[dragonriot]

#9310 Big game won't use the trail for 2 weeks if you've traveled it.
(I actually tracked an elk last week that had stepped on my initial footprints later that night.)

#18324 Stand hunting won't work where still hunting is preferable.

#75 You need a rifle caliber that has magnum in the title.

#508 You need camo for deer hunting.

#4921 Taking the one with the biggest rack is the manliest thing to do, it affects meat quality.



#9310 I've personally had deer walk down the same trail I just walked 15 minutes after I got set up in my stand... With no cover scent. =)

#18324 I can stalk any animal, but if I can be sitting in my tree lounge instead, you can bet you won't see me trudging through the woods looking for the flashing white of a tail. lol

#75 Anything from 6.5 to 12.7mm is fine with me... non-magnum of course. 12.7 being .50cal BMG. =)

#508 Blaze Orange looks great with blood stains too. lol

#4921 Sure, if you want dry, tough meat that you can't cut with a Hanzo Sword... This is why the yearlings hardly ever make it out of camp... they are field dressed and cooked before the weekend is over. =)

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#24759 Your 60 year old rifle is unsafe, and can't possibly be as accurate as my brand new Remington 700 with a 3-9x50 Leupold Scope, and you're shooting with Iron Sights... you'll never hit a deer with that - generally heard on the range, right before your (Mosin/K31/SKS/Swede/Yugo/Mannlicher/M1) puts down a tighter group at 100 yards with irons than they do with their new fancy rifle and scope. =)

[wheelgunslinger]

Hanzo Sword...
lol :D

[MT GUNNY]

#20 Muleys are easier to hunt than Whitetail.

[HarleyFixer]

I have found #20 to be true. Or at least they aren't as paranoid as Whitetail.

[~z]

Yea, I hate to say it but I kinda agree with Harley on this. Maybe refine to say muleys are easier to "shoot" than whitetails. They tend to spend more time trying to figure you out where as whitetails just get gone. I have had muleys watch an arrow go through them where as whitetails will just turn inside out and put their bellies to the ground to dodge it.

Just my experience, others may vary

~z

[CoRoMo]

#20 Muleys are easier to hunt than Whitetail.

Man, if that's a myth, Whitetail hunts must be a friggin' cakewalk. I've never hunted Whitetail before, but hunting muleys has not been difficult. Maybe #20 is true when hunting for trophy bucks, but for meat, I've never had to hunt more than a small portion of opening morning. I now know where to find them, and they just never scram like elk do. They give me every chance in the world to shoot them; it's silly.

I really need to hunt some Whitetail then. Maybe they field dress themselves.:neener:

[bad_aim_billy]

#20 Muleys are easier to hunt than Whitetail

That was no myth for me Wednesday, as I shot a forkhorn mulie at about 20 yards, he blundered down a ridge and never saw me. I think both species are equally dumb when November hits...

[Leaky Waders]

#4567 You need silver bullets to kill werewolves....false gold bullets work too.

[Loyalist Dave]

CoRoMo, if some gal pulls that on you, ask her if she drinks milk, and has she ever considered how that process began? You're a do-it-yourselfer after meat. Has she ever eaten a steak or hamburger? Is she afraid to get her hands dirty?

Actually a devout Vegan (yes it smacks of religion) gave me crap like that, and I asked her if she plants and harvests her own grain for her bread. She said "no" and asked what that has to do with hunting, and I pointed out the large numbers of rabbits and other critters that get killed by tractors when planting, or harvesting combines when harvesting, even when the grain is "organic", so she was ignorant, but since she now "knows" what happens, unless she plants and harvests by hand..., she's a hypocrite. I am, at least, honest about what I do with my shotgun. :D She walked away muttering to herself.

LD

[lgbloader]

#11......By taking a bite from the raw heart of fresh killed game, you will inherit the cunning wisdom and spirits of the deceased critter.

I have done this and didn't care too much for it. I prefer cooking it in little small pieces with the same deer' liver with cut potatoes, onions and a little bacon in a cast iron skillet over the camp fire. I feel it serves the same purpose.

LGB

[Rembrandt]

"#11......By taking a bite from the raw heart of fresh killed game, you will inherit the cunning wisdom and spirits of the deceased critter."


I have done this and didn't care too much for it. I prefer cooking it in little small pieces with the same deer' liver with cut potatoes, onions and a little bacon in a cast iron skillet over the camp fire. I feel it serves the same purpose.

Old Injun saying....."spirits evaporate in skillet"

[qajaq59]

Old Injun saying....."spirits evaporate in skillet" Old French Chef saying... Put cover on skillet!!! :neener:

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Whitetail hunts must be a friggin' cakewalk

Umm, that'd be a negatory.

[H&Hhunter]

After you've killed a 180" + mule deer come back and tell me how easy they are to hunt.

The major difference between trophy mule deer hunting and "trophy" whitetail hunting is that in most circumstances trophy mule deer hunting is the real deal. Much of the "trophy" whitetails we see taken are from high fenced genetically altered carefully managed herds.

I would agree that overall whitetails are more skittish than mule deer but a big old wild buck is a true adversary in either species. I've killed dumb young bucks and does of both species that were equally easy to shoot.

[MCgunner]

Trophy whitetail around here are more a product of genetics, nutrition, intense management than anything else. To hunt those managed deer takes money because it takes money to manage deer. So, I don't hunt for horns here. LOL!

I always like the one, "Hunting with feeders ain't hunting." Feeders are NOT a deer magnet, especially for the bigger bucks. They keep the deer in the area, though, and the big boys feed off 'em at night. They've read the game laws, ain't stupid. :D

My favorite areas that I've spot and stalked whitetail are west of the Pecos, out in Art's part of the world. Wide open spaces, brushed up dry washes. Lots of cover and habitat, but it's concentrated in the brushy draws. Especially during the rut when the bucks are out and about, you can sit on a ridge and glass just like for mulies in the mountains. :D It's a ton of fun if you're from the eastern part of the state and used to noddin' off in a stand, feeder or no feeder. LOL! I love it out there. Hunting stands starts to bore me after a while and I start duck hunting more. Now that the hogs have moved in here in such numbers, though, it's a bit more interesting. :D

[wyohome]

"Hunting with feeders ain't hunting."

I agree ;)

[lgbloader]

Old Injun saying....."spirits evaporate in skillet"

I've heard most of them but I have never heard that one. What Nation did that one come from??

LGB

[MCgunner]

I agree

You're entitled to even an uneducated opinion. :rolleyes:

[wyohome]

You're entitled to even an uneducated opinion.

Hunting: The activity of looking thoroughly in order to find something.
Sitting in a tree over a bucket of corn doesn't meet that criteria. ;)

[Double Naught Spy]

Well d'uh! You don't watch the corn for crying out loud. You look thoroughly from the stand at the environment around the corn. Hunt smarter, not harder.

It is sort of like saying it ain't real trapping if you put bait in the trap.

[MCgunner]

I go duck hunting, I put out decoys and call 'em. I go dove hunting, I sit in the flight path and shoot 'em as they fly by. Yet, I don't call it duck "shooting" or dove "shooting", it's hunting. Been using a feeder and ain't shot a deer in 2 years. Yes, I'm hunting.

There are many ways to skin a cat. Stick with yours. It won't work down here, though. I like to spot and stalk when out in the mountains, but there ain't no mountains down here and I'm hunting on a whole 10 acres. I have areas out of state where I can spot and stalk when I get some more income and completely stop having to work, start gettin' my gubment checks. :D It's a logistics thing getting up there, but it's fun, and the mulies there are considerably bigger than the whitetail down here. There's a WMA near me, buckshot only, that opens for hog hunting in February. I get my share of still hunting and even what might be mistaken for spot and stalk (sit on the bluff over the marsh and watch for hogs coming back to the brush in the morning) there, but have to hunt with a 10 gauge, range limited.

A good hunter adapts. A hard head set in his ways starves, or, stops at Walmart for meat on the way home. :D Thankfully, the hog trap has kept my freezer stocked. LOL Damned deer are nocturnal even this early on in the season. Camera hasn't shot a daylight pic, yet. :rolleyes:

[Geno]

"Don't worry! It's an easy shot; you can't miss!"

[Art Eatman]

wyohome, how would YOU hunt gently rolling brushy country where your vision at ground level is maybe fifteen yards at most? And often, less than that? And in walking and sneaky-snaking, you have to deal with thorny brush, catclaw acacia and cactus?

[CoRoMo]

...the large numbers of rabbits and other critters that get killed by tractors...

True. I've personally (via tractor) ground up entire families of soft, cute, little cuddly bunnies, all the while trying to prepare the ground to grow some food for vegans!!

[MCgunner]

True. I've personally (via tractor) ground up entire families of soft, cute, little cuddly bunnies, all the while trying to prepare the ground to grow some food for vegans!!

You....you.....ANIMAL! ROFL!

I bet if I had a shredder, I could kill a hundred snakes a pass just on my little place in spring. Lord knows what else it'd take out, piglets, rabbit, coons, possums, bobkittens, quail, LOL.

[RockinU]

Hunting: The activity of looking thoroughly in order to find something.
Sitting in a tree over a bucket of corn doesn't meet that criteria.


Then I am assuming that hunting agriculture (like alfalfa) or food plots, or the travelways to the food source doesn't meet your criteria either?

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

True. I've personally (via tractor) ground up entire families of soft, cute, little cuddly bunnies, all the while trying to prepare the ground to grow some food for vegans!!

Pretty ironic, huh?

Yeah, wyohome, you'd better go out of your way to NOT hunt any animals that are on their way to feeding grounds, in order to conform with your own ethics. Maybe you should stop the game and ask them, and then if they say, "no, not going to eat right now; just wandering around", then you say "Ok" and shoot them.

[qajaq59]

True. I've personally (via tractor) ground up entire families of soft, cute, little cuddly bunnies, all the while trying to prepare the ground to grow some food for vegans!! Oh I know just the vegan to tell that to the next time I see her. :evil:

[Leaky Waders]

#12 Shot beaver float!
#13 Shot beaver sink!

;)

[jimmyraythomason]

Good one, Leaky Waders! lol.

[dragonriot]

haha!! =)

[jimmyraythomason]

#whatever, "It's okay to crawl under that bush(or rocky ledge) for a hunting blind, the snakes aren't out in January(in Alabama)." Or,more simply,"There aren't any snakes out during hunting season".

[MCgunner]

Oh I know just the vegan to tell that to the next time I see her.

Logic and common sense rarely work on such people. You might suggest her getting into edible wild plants, though. She IS killing 'em to eat 'em, though. A TRUE lover of life would only eat the fruit/seed, not greens or roots. And, they'd pick or harvest the crop without destruction of the crop. How they'd plant the crop, not sure. Maybe go through the field shooing all the rabbits away?

But, in reality, planting crops is destroying species diversity (not desirable). Hunting is controlling wild populations (desirable). So, we quit planting and live off the land and let the city folks starve, eh?

There's always more to a story than meets the eye. Too many folks just look for simple answers. RECYCLE and SAVE THE WHALES! :rolleyes:

[qajaq59]

Beavers that eat mahogany sink?

Beavers that eat balsa wood float?

Maybe?????? :neener:

[schlockinz]

I'd say big white tails can be just as dumb as anything.

I saw a 180 class deer just sitting in a field, easily within range, watched me for at least 5 minutes, while I loading my gun to go look for pigs.

[R.W.Dale]

I'd say big white tails can be just as dumb as anything.

I saw a 180 class deer just sitting in a field, easily within range, watched me for at least 5 minutes, while I loading my gun to go look for pigs.

LOL the deer I just killed was even funnier. I was STROLLING down a creek bed on a drive toward the wife and this buck just for the lack of a better word MOSEYS out in front of me out of the overgrowth head down intent on crossing the creek not 30 yds away. We just kinda literally bumbled into one another with much the same reaction as two folks meeting at a hallway corner........only I had a GUN;)

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Beavers that eat mahogany sink?

Beavers that eat balsa wood float?

Maybe??????

Nice.... :D :D

[R.W.Dale]

Nice.... :D :D

and if they float they're witches right?:uhoh:

[schlockinz]

I got a deer in a strange way last season. I had been hunting a fairly large 10pt all season, and was headed down to a bean field to try and find him. On the way down I see two does bedded down, I'm still driving on a lease road and decide that I'll pass them. About this time, the buck with them, that I hadn't seen, gets up, walks 50yds away from me (so, towards me), stops in the two tracks and proceeds to start pawing the ground and and staring me down. At this point I can see that he's mature and a wide spread with good mass, no idea about any points though. I get out of the car, get my gun out of my metal case, put on all my blaze orange, kill the truck, sit there for a while, and decide that its been over 2 minutes, this has got to be legal, shot him in the heart, and he proceeds to paw up the ground furiously. I take another shoot, thinking that I had missed him, and screwed the pooch here. I'd used my door as a rest, and at this point he was slowly trotting, I hit the mirror as I pulled the trigger which put my shot a little further back, the deer kept moving at the same speed. I found him dead 8yds later, just far enough to be out of sight when he went down. At that point I decided that even old white tails can be stupid.

As for mulies being hard, shooting a big mature muley seems hard to me, only time I've seen one within shooting range was on a pheasant hunt. He knelt in the grass, somehow concealed his horns, and our line of guys was no more than 10yds apart, and he slipped through the middle, and exploded out of there after he was about 10yds behind us. Scared some of the guys pretty good, but he looked like he would have been at least a 180" deer.

[jimmyraythomason]

and if they drown,they are...er,WERE mortal.

[John Parker]

True. I've personally (via tractor) ground up entire families of soft, cute, little cuddly bunnies, all the while trying to prepare the ground to grow some food for vegans!!


I'm so glad I had that shirt made that says "Wheat is MURDER!"

[bromdenlong]

"Wheat is Murder". Classic. Now I want the shirt, with a picture of a sadistically grinning farmer grinding up bunnies with a combine. The combine should have "Go Vegan" and "Meat is Murder" slogans on the side of it.

[scythefwd]

John Parker - You might find something like that from a Celiac website (celiacs cannot eat wheat, it really is damaging to them). Wifey has a "seperate the wheat from the chef" apron.

uhh.... deer can smell fear? - to keep it related to topic :)

[cooch]

Myth...

That any cartridge with the word "Magnum" in the title, produces unmanageable recoil. Rubbish! To pick an example, I'd like a $ for every forum-hunter who insists that his .30/06 will produce almost identical ballistics to a .300Mag, but at a fraction of the recoil. So when did the laws of physics get suspended? Recoil managment is something that you learn. Almost everyone accepts the benefits of learning to shoot accurately, and the ethics of doing so when shooting at game, but few keyboard hunters seem recognise that learning to shoot a more adequate calibre accurately is also a part of the hunter's responsibility.

Myth...

That "efficiency" in a cartridge is important.
Your rifle, clothing, binos and boots cost you thousands of $$.
Your 4WD hunting rig costs tens of thousands of $$.
Your average hunting trip costs hundreds of $$ in food, fuel and etceteras...
But $5 difference in a packet of ammo that may well last you all season is a vital consideration when making a calibre choice.:banghead:

Myth....

That you can do/use/get-away-with something makes it a good idea.

Myth.....

That all shots on game are either a lethal hit or a miss. This is the justification for using less-effective calibres on larger game.. "It's not what you hit it with, but where...." All of our game animals have areas adjoining the vital zones, a hit in which is marginal or slowly lethal. A bigger hole puts the odds in our favour a little bit more. Nothing is certain, but it's foolish to ignore the odds.
I dare to suggest that there are only three categories of hunters. Those who have wounded game. Those who will. Those who don't shoot very much.

[Snakum]

#4235 - (Told multiple times over the last month to a brand new deer hunter) "You'll never get a deer in North Carolina stalking or still hunting. You'll have to use a stand or blind."


(Proven wrong twice this morning. :D )

[jbkebert]

Cooch I don't think anyone could of said it better. You make very realistic points.

[The Bushmaster]

H&H...On #12...A head shot will drop them in their tracks.

[Zip7]

3. "Hunting behind hounds is unfair and easy that it shouldn't be considered a true hunt."

First time I turned the hounds out this year, I started to them (without my compass) at 10PM, and walked out of the woods at 8AM the next morning - soaking wet and still didn't have a coon - or the dogs for that matter.

[H&Hhunter]

H&H...On #12...A head shot will drop them in their tracks.

Only if you hit that gray squiggly thing inside the head called the brain. Far to many attempted "head" shots don't get that done. But thanks for the heads up.;)

[Robert]

Myth:
Cape Buffalo are the most dangerous land animal to hunt.
Not so, Arkansas River Valley Dragon Flies are by far more dangerous...

[H&Hhunter]

Gus, I agree if you were referring to the Yellow bellied sub species the common ARVDF is somewhat less dangerous due to the lack of dorsal tusks.

[Robert]

Yes, exactly