[greyhound]

Good grief, every time this clown opens his mouth anymore...

www.Tallahassee.com

Posted on Tue, Nov. 04, 2003



Howard Dean campaigns in Tallahassee


Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean told a Tallahassee audience today that southerners have to quit basing their votes on "race, guns, God and gays."

Dean, making his first campaign foray into North Florida, spoke at a
rally in Jacksonville then addressed more than 500 people at a luncheon of the Capital Tiger Bay Club.

He said Sen. Bob Graham, who announced on Monday that he won't run for re-election, is on his "short list" for vice president - if he wins the Democratic nomination to face President Bush next November.

The former Vermont governor, who is a physician, also criticized Gov. Jeb Bush for rushing through a law that allowed Bush to override the courts and restore feeding to a Tampa woman, Terri Schiavo, who has been in a "persistent vegetative state" since 1990.

Dean said he hopes to reassemble a coalition of conservative
southern voters like President Franklin Roosevelt had in the "solid
South" 70 years ago. Although his opposition to the war in Iraq and his criticism of the Bush tax cuts do not score well in polls in the South, Dean said he hopes working families will support his call for improving education and health care.

Read more about Dean's visit in the Tallahassee Democrat on
Wednesday.



southerners have to quit basing their votes on "race, guns, God and gays."

[Leatherneck]

Dean's boat is almost sunk in the conservative South. My gawd, the guy is putting full-auto bursts into his feet, regardless of how much truth is contained in some of his statements.

Educated idiot.

TC
TFL Survivor

[greyhound]

And remember that some folks are tirelessly pleading for us to vote for leftist Dean based on his "approval" :barf: of the 2A (read: hunting is OK).

For the Love of Pete, he just told Southerners not to vote based on guns!:banghead:

[NewShooter78]

People should vote for any reason they want. That's how they voice they're opinions en mas. And to say this to Southerners seems like politico suicide. Except for some large urban areas, I'm sure that most of the south is still pretty conservative.

But then again, I don't have faith in either political party. I have no clue who I'm going to vote for, but I know it won't be for any of the Dem candidates, or the incumbent.

[2dogs]

quit basing their votes on "race, guns, God and gays

Unless you are a member of NAACP, Brady Boobs, atheists of America (or ACLU) or NAMBLA. Then it's alright to vote those issues by voting Democrat.

The more they (leftists) talk the more I detest them.:evil:

[critter]

It seems that Dean does not understand the basic rule of holes. That is, when you find yourself deep in a hole, STOP DIGGING!

[PeteyPete]

What the hell should their vote be based on then? Free handouts from Uncle Sam?

Liberals cannot understand why lower-middle class whites continue to vote anti-democrat. After all, they are the ones who would benefit from free gubament cheese. They dangle it in front of them perplexed why the "brainless, nascar loving, unwashed confederate" won't bite.

As someone who grew up in a lower-middle class strata, I'll let em in on a little secret.....We don't want your f'in handouts. We want to succeed and get by on merit, not handouts. We want to be wealthy, and have the foresight to understand that when we are, we don't want to pay 50% of our income in taxes. We don't want to eat off the backs of other people.

I remember a conversation I had w/ one commie in college. I told him that after I'm done w/ school, i'm going to pay back all loans, grants and scholarships regardless of whether i have to or not. He laughed at me and told me that I was "retarded", and that I should take the free cash because it was coming out of the coffers of the rich anyway. I feel pity on anyone lacking such basic principals.

[HankB]

Hey, at least Dean provides me with ammo when I'm in a mood to needle a liberal at work.

Me: "Ann, I'm starting to think that Dean may not be too bad as president."

Ann: (eyes light up) "Really? I thought you hated democRATS?"

Me: "Not at all. It's just that Dean's been making some good sense lately."

Ann: "What did he say?"

Me: "He said words to the effect that he should get the votes of Southern guys - you know, the ones with gun racks and Confederate flags in their pickups."

Ann: (now frowning) "I can't believe he said that! That's just wrong."

Me: "Ann, now your're just being contrary. Here I am, offering a political olive branch by saying something good about a democRAT, and you take issue with it. (shaking my head as I turn away) "I don't know why I even try."

:neener:

[MicroBalrog]

atheists of America (or ACLU) or NAMBLA.

No comment needed.

[DorGunR]

Turn the lights out when you leave Howard................party's over.:D

[MicroBalrog]

Doesn't anybody think equating gay rights groups to NAMBLA is wrong?

[Tamara]

It's not only wrong, it's factually incorrect. What do you want me to do about it, Micro? Use brain shampoo on the guy? He implied non-factual views in his post. You have non-factual views in your sigline. Are we now to police the board for non-factual views?

I will promise you one thing; turn this thread into yet another debate about religion or sexuality and it will be locked up tight, how's that?

[MicroBalrog]

Tamara: My point was different. I just wondered how one could claim to support people's civil rights (to KABA) and then oppose civil rights (of gays) in the SAME POST.:D

Moreover, it kinda supports my sig line.

[2dogs]

Doesn't anybody think equating gay rights groups to NAMBLA is wrong

It was an example, not an equivalency.:)

Unless NAMBLA has nothing to do with homosexuality?:confused:

[MicroBalrog]

nothing to do with homosexuality

Only with a specific type of it, and then they are more concerned with age rather than sex.:barf:

[2dogs]

how one could claim to support people's civil rights (to KABA) and then oppose civil rights (of gays) in the SAME POST

Assuming you are talking about my post- where did I say that I oppose "civil rights" for anyone?

No offense, but learn how to read or don't hurl insults.

[MicroBalrog]

No offense, but learn how to read or don't hurl insults



Note you quote Dean:

"God and gays "

and say


.Unless you are a member of .... atheists of America (or ACLU) or NAMBLA. Then it's alright to vote those issues by voting Democrat

no comment.

[2dogs]

are more concerned with age rather than sex

My mistake- I thought the "man/boy" part of NAMBLA implied same sex, ergo homosexuality. Stupid me.:rolleyes:

[Iain]

As Tamara said - here is not the place. Can I recommend the South Park episode 'Cartman joins NAMBLA'.

[Tamara]

I will promise you one thing; turn this thread into yet another debate about religion or sexuality and it will be locked up tight, how's that?