7.62x39 recoil


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Ben86
November 5, 2009, 01:45 PM
I know that felt recoil is subjective, but I would appreciate it if someone could give me a comparison of 7.62x39 recoil to say 5.56, .308, .270 etc. I want to get an AK chambered in 7.62 but am worried about the recoil for my small statured wife so I am debating on getting a 5.56 or 5.45 version.

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stchman
November 5, 2009, 01:51 PM
AK-47s and their variants are semi automatic piston driven firearms. Most of the recoil is eaten up by the srping and gas system. I personally do not think they kick very much at all.

TheDriver
November 5, 2009, 01:53 PM
x39 is significantly more felt recoil than 5.56, but far less than .308. Not sure about 5.45. My wife has shot my x39 AK and she does OK with it.

MK11
November 5, 2009, 01:53 PM
I fired a full auto AK earlier this year and was amazed at how soft the recoil was (muzzle climb was another matter). It seemed like a soft push compared to the weird jerk of an AR or the quick shove of a .308. Never shot a .270, so can't compare there.

Whether or not that works for your wife is another matter.

rcmodel
November 5, 2009, 01:55 PM
If 300 million skinny little malnourished communest peasants can handle an AK on full-auto, then your healthy American corn-fed wife should be able to handle one on semi-auto just fine.

rc

stchman
November 5, 2009, 01:59 PM
That was funny.

I don't know if 300 million AKs have been made, but it is probably not too far of an exaggeration.

THE DARK KNIGHT
November 5, 2009, 02:01 PM
If 300 million skinny little malnourished communest peasants can handle an AK on full-auto, then your healthy American corn-fed wife should be able to handle one on semi-auto just fine.

Exactly. Even kids can handle an x39.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=108588&stc=1&d=1257444052

Recoil1776
November 5, 2009, 02:02 PM
As noted, felt recoil of the AK-47 in 7.62x39 is between the 5.56 AR and 7.62 M14 or FAL.

Ben86
November 5, 2009, 02:03 PM
That's hilarious. I never thought about it, but she is Vietnamese so she should be able to handle the ak just fine. It may even be instinctual! haha

So I take it's somewhere in between a .308 and .223. So sort of like a .243 perhaps? I wish I knew some one that owns one, they all have ARs. lame

Guy de Loimbard
November 5, 2009, 02:03 PM
I have an AK with the underfolding stock. I'd describe recoil as pleasant enough to fire all day. I used to have an AR-15 (16 in. bbl) and I think the recoil is pretty comparable. I think the muzzle blast on the AK is a lot louder though.

MetalHead
November 5, 2009, 02:08 PM
For me an AR15 shooting 7.62x39 from a heavy 20" barrel seems to have the about the same or just a bit more recoil than a 20" pencil barrel shooting 5.56

JShirley
November 5, 2009, 02:09 PM
7.62x39mm has much more recoil than 5.56mm, but it still isn't significant, especially from a heavy AK. Any healthy individual should have no problem handling the recoil in semi-auto.

chuwee81
November 5, 2009, 02:19 PM
yup, it's more of a push than recoil. Well, compared to my mosin that is.Also i have shot the 5.45. It's very-very mild and pleasant shooting cartridge, like the 5.56 or .223. Wish i can say how the recoil is from a woman's perspective because, uhhhhh... i haven't let my wife shot those because she doesn't really know i have them......yet.

KBintheSLC
November 5, 2009, 02:19 PM
If 300 million skinny little malnourished communest peasants can handle an AK on full-auto, then your healthy American corn-fed wife should be able to handle one on semi-auto just fine.

I think you mean to say "communist". And yes, pretty much anyone can handle the mild recoil of the x39 in an AK. You can literally dump a full case of 1000 rounds in a day through one without any major pains.

stchman
November 5, 2009, 02:27 PM
Funny thing is that kid can field strip and clean an AK-47 in 3 minutes when he was 5 years old.

rcmodel
November 5, 2009, 02:53 PM
I think you mean to say "communist".Thank you for the spelling critique.

I needed that! :scrutiny:

rc

nulfisin
November 5, 2009, 03:01 PM
Recoil isn't bad at all, but these suckers are loud.

ny32182
November 5, 2009, 03:59 PM
I perceive it as a little more than 5.56, but well under that of .308. I'd say the increase from 5.56 is about 25% of the difference between 5.56 and .308, if that much.

I.e. I can shoot 5.56 or x39 for hours with no real fatigue or discomfort; .308 I will get tired of much faster. How much faster depends on whether the .308 is a semi or a bolt.

mongo4567
November 5, 2009, 04:16 PM
My 10 year old son loves to shoot an sks, very light recoil.

RP88
November 5, 2009, 04:23 PM
the recoil on the AK isn't that bad, but it does have a good muzzle flip to it, and it can be a tad uncomfortable if you have a standard steel butt-plated stock on it and hold it certain ways. It is Hard to judge the recoil when you compare the bullets out of different guns, though. I'd imagine that just about any gun will have less recoil in an AR configuration. Whereas, if you take the AK and it's smaller, shorter recoil spring and huge chunk of metal and piston slamming back above the rest of the gun, well...I'd expect the recoil to be as such.

chevyforlife21
November 5, 2009, 04:26 PM
it has less recoil then a .243 or a 30-30 but more then a 9mm carbine

DoubleTapDrew
November 5, 2009, 04:29 PM
If 300 million skinny little malnourished communest peasants can handle an AK on full-auto,
By "handle" do you mean fire wildly in a general direction holding the gun over their heads and hitting nothing? :p

In my experience a 7.62x39 AK kicks significantly more than a 5.56 AR, but that's not much of a feat since the AR is like the BB gun of the centerfire world. Plus mine is an underfolder so it's not a stock you want to snuggle up with anyway, and makes the recoil gap seem larger.

hammerklavier
November 5, 2009, 04:30 PM
Here is your definitive answer http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

ny32182 got it about right.


.460 wby mag anyone?

DeepSouth
November 5, 2009, 05:00 PM
I started letting my oldest son shoot mine when he was 9, he said it felt like a .22, but he isn't a recoil sensitive kid.

danweasel
November 5, 2009, 05:39 PM
My AK is my wife's favorite gun of mine to shoot. She likes to say it is her gun. However, this is NOT the case.

BobOfTheFuture
November 6, 2009, 07:12 AM
Yeah, sure it is...


:neener:

wcoats
November 6, 2009, 11:34 AM
I'd say it should be fine. I gues an AK in 7.62X39 kicks a little more than .223 from a mini 14 or AR, but it's a somewhat different recoil. From the AK it's more of a push into your shoulder than a quick snap. Recoil from an AK isn't even in the same ballpark as recoil from a .308 or .270 bolt gun.

SSN Vet
November 6, 2009, 11:42 AM
Muzzle rise delaying accurate follow up shots is the issue with and x39 AK (hence the slant break), not recoil

jjohnson
November 6, 2009, 11:43 AM
Yes, absolutely she should have fun with anything SKS/AK. Both are heavy relative to the power of the round anyhow - and the zillions of undernourished, small statured kids around the world wielding both weapon types do just fine with them.

trigga
November 6, 2009, 01:25 PM
the 7.62x39 is harder to recover from the first shot vs the 5.56 under rapid fire. nothing too bad but the ak is still my favorite gun because it's like a 99% reliably. maybe not that high but high.

Girodin
November 7, 2009, 12:26 AM
The 7.62x39 is a pretty soft recoiling gun IMO. I let new shooters shoot mine. It has more felt recoil than the .223 but the .223 in an otherwise similar rifle has virtual no recoil. I am not a recoil junky but I do not find even the .308 in a 16" AK to be the least bit objectionable.

The real difference as others have said is muzzle rise. Follow up shots are definately quicker in the .223. The .308 w/ the 16 barrel jumps a bit and puts a a decent muzzle blast. Unless the shooter is extremely recoil sensitive a x39 shouldn't be much of an issue.

slabuda
November 7, 2009, 01:50 AM
Here is your definitive answer http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

ny32182 got it about right.


.460 wby mag anyone?

Id like to see shot gun compared to that. trap loads, pheasant, 3" duck, 3 1/2" goose, 3 1/2" Turkey etc



Hmmm look what I found

http://www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm

It doesnt have 3.5" 12 ga though, but if these are here:
12 gauge, 3" (1 7/8 at 1210) 8.75 54.0
10 gauge, 3.5" (2 1/4 at 1210) 10.5 62.9

then the heavy turkey loads would be at least in the middle so lets say "58."

So my 3.5 turkey loads might be about the same as a .416 rigby. that 338 ultra mag my friend wants me to shoot might not be that bad after all :)

And I am only 5' 2" and 125 soaking wet...lol
I will admit though the Fiocci turkey loads aint too fun after a few of them!!

wrs840
November 7, 2009, 01:56 AM
My wife giggles out loud when shooting a 7.62x39 AK or SKS. Muzzle-rise, yes, uncomfortable "recoil"? Uh... No.

Les

Ben86
November 9, 2009, 05:57 PM
Can anyone name any decent importer brands? I've been looking at Century.

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