Dimensionally, a musket cap is much wider so it should throw a greater spark than a #11 cap which I would assume would translate into greater reliability of ignition. If this is true, why are #11 caps so common?
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Das Jaeger
November 7, 2009, 04:28 PM
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My understanding of caps is a #11 is the same power as a musket cap but the musket cap has shoulders is all .
Tommygunn
November 7, 2009, 07:16 PM
#11s go on revolvers. Muskets are for longarms.
That having been said, I bought a repro .54 Sharps carbine which came with both a nipple for muskets as well as for #11 caps. I never got reliable ignition from a #11 cap so I went to the musket -- and lived happily ever after.
OTOH the musket just won't work for the revolver. Ha ha.
However I have never had ignition problems with revolvers.
The two caps may be identical in power for all I know but in my humble experience, something about the performance gives the edge to the muskets in the Sharps, where the flame has to go around a corner.
azyogi
November 7, 2009, 07:22 PM
I've had good luck with the CCI No. 11 Magnum Percussion Caps. They work well for my T/C Renagade, ROA, and all my !858 clones.
arcticap
November 7, 2009, 07:53 PM
I picked up this quote along the way:
On page 83 of Dave Ehrig's book "Muzzleloading for Deer & Turkey", he lists some information on percussion caps and primers.
#11 standard cap - 6.53 cc of gas at 3,024 degrees F when fired.
#11 magnum cap - 7.59 cc of gas at 3,717 degrees F when fired.
U.S. #2 musket cap - 14.36 cc of gas at 3,717 degrees F when fired.
#209 shotgun primer - 21.98 cc of gas at 3,024 degrees F when fired.
#200 rifle primer - 11.68 cc of gas at 3,024 degrees F when fired.
dispatch55126
November 7, 2009, 09:09 PM
Using the above data, it would appear that the musket cap is "hotter". However, does the increase in gas volume cause any issues with displacing the loose powder?
alemonkey
November 7, 2009, 09:35 PM
Interesting thread...I have problems with slow ignition in my old CVA side lock after a couple of shots, and I noticed today Scheel's here in town has started carrying musket caps and nipples. I should try switching.
camodip
November 8, 2009, 10:59 AM
Musket caps are a little hotter but the main difference is they have a lot more volume of flame than a #11 cap so they are much more reliable in hard to ignite systems. 209 primers are too powerful and will move the load, always had better accuracy with #11's or musket caps compared to 209's too.
dispatch55126
November 8, 2009, 11:24 AM
Okay, thanks. I've contacted CVA regarding #11 and musket cap breech plugs for the Buckhorn. I may have to try the different plugs to see which is more reliable/accurate.
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