So I want a truck rifle.


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KAK
November 8, 2009, 12:32 AM
I have been thinking that I want a rifle that is inexpensive enough that I could have it in my SUV most of the time. I was thinking under $450 or so. I don't want anything less powerful than a 308 unless its semi-auto.

Things I have thought about are:

That Remington pump rifle is cool
The Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in a 40
A Mosin Negant
An AK
A Weatherby Vanguard in .338
A Stephen's 308
A Marlin 45-70

Anyone have any other suggestions? :D

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chevyforlife21
November 8, 2009, 12:45 AM
hi point carbine, marlin 30-30,sks.

slvrbulit12
November 8, 2009, 12:50 AM
SKS.

AirborneNCO
November 8, 2009, 12:58 AM
Henry Repeating Arms AR-7 Survival Rifle would be my pick. At 16 inches stowed, you could leave the truck on foot with it in a small back pack and no one would as easily realize you're armed, plus you can carry more ammo with it being .22 LR. Eight round magazine capacity, semi-automatic, and accurate enough to hunt small game or dispatch a foe with a well placed shot if E&E is not an option. It also sells brand new for $245 to $300 dollars depending on whether or not you want a camo finish.

cyclopsshooter
November 8, 2009, 01:05 AM
marlin 3030

chevyforlife21
November 8, 2009, 01:09 AM
you can shoot a marlin 95 percent as fast as semi.

ArfinGreebly
November 8, 2009, 01:19 AM
I keep a Marlin P70SS (Papoose, stainless) in the "truck" (yeah, it's really an SUV).

It's a take-down .22LR semi-auto. The magazine that comes with it is seven rounds, but Marlin makes another semi-auto .22 rifle that's magazine-compatible, and the mag for it is ten rounds. Therefore I have both 7 and 10 round mags for the Papoose. I carry a brick of regular Federal .22 LR in the truck with it, along with a couple of 50-round boxes of Velocitors.

Weighs very little, has its own carry bag, quite compact.

Alternatively . . .

If you'd like a little more punch, Kel-Tec makes the SU-16 series. It takes regular STANAG (AR-compatible) magazines and eats both .223 Rem and 5.56 NATO ammo without complaint.

It folds in half (remove take-down pin, fold stock under) for very compact storage.

I have two, and each cost right at $500.

It's a very light rifle as .223 goes, under six pounds.

You could take a SU-16B with its two factory (ten-round) mags in the stock and carry it folded in a back pack. Twenty rounds of your favorite flavor of .223 in a light, compact package that can be stowed out of sight.

Either one would make a fine truck gun.

I chose the Papoose because I can carry a whole bunch of ammo with a whole lot less weight penalty.

Well, that, and the Papoose is about half the cost.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 8, 2009, 01:20 AM
I'd choose an SKS.

chevyforlife21
November 8, 2009, 01:21 AM
sks=cheap reliable, pretty accurate,last forever,shoots fast. cheap built better then an ak,but with a 10 round mag.

KAK
November 8, 2009, 01:22 AM
I've got an AR but I'm not comfortable leaving it in my vehicle.

ArfinGreebly
November 8, 2009, 01:37 AM
I've got an AR but I'm not comfortable leaving it in my vehicle.

Well, how about the SU-16B then?

Half the cost, same magazines, same ammo.

It'll take glass, too, if you want. Built-in rail.

BudW
November 8, 2009, 01:39 AM
saiga 12 guage

KAK
November 8, 2009, 01:44 AM
Well, how about the SU-16B then?

Half the cost, same magazines, same ammo.

It'll take glass, too, if you want. Built-in rail

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I know its an awesome gun. Its just a little bit too high in price. :( Maybe if I could find a cheaper used one. Now the Sub-2000... that would be an awesome companion to my 40 S&W glocks!!!

Isher
November 8, 2009, 02:03 AM
Jeez -

My truck gun is a VZ58.

I think that the basis of selection

Should be on potential usage,

Rather than cheap.

isher

KAK
November 8, 2009, 02:09 AM
Ok potential usage= Close-Medium range defensive engagement 25-125 yards with a big boom that I can shoot reasonably fast and accurate. Talking one shot stops. Slugs are too inaccurate.

I know the sub-2000 doesn't fit this bill but I still like it.

Isher
November 8, 2009, 02:13 AM
VZ58 for me.

How inexpensive is your life?

isher

KAK
November 8, 2009, 02:17 AM
Ive got a Glock 22 in my vehicle at all times. Now dude im not talking about buying a POS. I hate POS guns... Their are much cheaper options that are still good firearms. I can get that Weatherby Vanguard in 338 win mag for $240 new because im in the business.

MistWolf
November 8, 2009, 02:35 AM
You could get a Remington pump action in just about any caliber you want. Another good choice would be an Enfield in 303 or 308. The P17 Enfield in 30-06 would work but it's a bit long. The Enfield action has a short lift and the bolt can be worked pretty fast

KAK
November 8, 2009, 02:42 AM
Ok so I down to the final question. 5+1 of 308 or 3+1 of 338. They would be in the Weatherby Vanguard because I can get a fairly good deal on one.

HUGE power vs Big power with 2 more trys.

Mp7
November 8, 2009, 05:54 AM
i believe the SKS was made to be a truck gun. :-)

Averageman
November 8, 2009, 06:12 AM
Action in either 45-70 or 30-30.
Go to Marlinowners.com and search Alaskan "co-pilot" Type 336. That was a $250 dollar rifle he started with and you could do it up in wither 30-30 or .35 or 45-70.
It is a VERY inspirational article and the end result may be the ultimate (in my mind anyway) Truck Gun.
You may not have the talent to do what he did at home, but..it takes the weapon and squeezes its maximum potential out in this platform and caliber.

Handgunner
November 8, 2009, 06:24 AM
Saiga in .308

1200 meters
November 8, 2009, 07:06 AM
If I could afford a Weatherby Vanguard, I think I'd buy A ruger mini in .308.
Just my zwei centavos

OrangePwrx9
November 8, 2009, 08:18 AM
semi-auto:
A Saiga rifle in either 7.62x39, .223, or .308; your choice. Convert it if you like.
bolt gun:
A Remington 788 carbine in .308. They're getting hard to find, but they shoot really well.

Howaido
November 8, 2009, 08:32 AM
I think the days of the SKS are over. Personally, I can't justify spending the $$$ they are getting nowadays. Better off IMO to spend the little extra and get a WASR.

wnycollector
November 8, 2009, 08:41 AM
I have a keltec sub2k...what a sweet little rifle! the 16" barrel does wonders for velocity (155gr magtech JHPs clock in @1400fps/675 lbs). COM hits on an IPSC target are easy at 75-100 yards, plus if you carry a glock 22 you can share mags! Lest we not forget...it folds in 1/2!!!

Mp7
November 8, 2009, 08:55 AM
anything that does not look like an AK ... and is not tooo expensive if stolen should be the answer.

Badlander
November 8, 2009, 11:42 AM
Marlin 30-30 is about $347. At wally world or Dicks. You can have the barrel cut to 16.5 and still be under budget. I prefer A more politicaly correct rifle for my truck gun. I would rather not have A cop pull out my FAL should I be checked out for something.
I know it should not make any difference but it may.

Col. Plink
November 8, 2009, 12:56 PM
Lots of good choices!

I say a Remi 760/7600 in 308 or 30'06 would make your suv more of a truck, but I figure carbines are more of a truck gun in terms of barrel length. Go semiauto with some knockdown power (SKS will definitely do in those ranges, the original Yugos [M59] lack the grenade launcher so the length is minimized; Saiga makes carbine-length semi's in lots of calibers, 308 comes to mind).

Arkansas Paul
November 8, 2009, 01:04 PM
I think the Remington pumps are cool too and you definately couldn't go wrong with a .308. I personally wouldn't choose a bolt action for a gun I was planning on using for personal defense. I have a Vangaurd in .30-06 and love it, but defense weapon it is not. You wouldn't go wrong with a marlin lever action in any caliber either. You listed some good choices.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 8, 2009, 01:15 PM
IMO, these type of rifles make the best "trunk/trunk" guns, whether "sporterized" or not:

-Swiss K31
-SMLE No. 4
-SMLE Ishapore 2A
-Other cheap turnbolt with a detachable mag

particularly in states where the gun must be carried "unloaded" to be legal, such as my state. With a detachable magazine, the rifle can meet this legal requirement, and still be loadable much pronto if necessary. More so than a levergun or turnbolt with non-detachable mag.

islandphish
November 8, 2009, 01:30 PM
I think you need to look more closely at your potential uses. Things are kinda murky when you say 23-150 and big boom. One shot stops should be perfectly achievable on unarmored bad guys with a medium caliber assault rifle ala SKS.

Between the .308 and the other Weatherby. I'd take the .308.

Terminally they will perform pretty much the same, in that if you make hits it's over.

The big guns are for big animals or big ranges.

chauncey
November 8, 2009, 02:17 PM
Saiga in 308 or 762x39, depending on what range you want

pump shotgun if you are on a tighter budget

MistWolf
November 8, 2009, 08:04 PM
In most cases the 308 would be a better choice than the 338- Unless you're expecting real big bears. In the case of bears, I'd want a Marlin 45-70 because I trust mine

ole farmerbuck
November 8, 2009, 08:13 PM
After shooting my Stevens .223 with the two Savages, i'd say go with the Stevens. Price is right.

Avenger29
November 8, 2009, 08:13 PM
If I could afford a Weatherby Vanguard, I think I'd buy A ruger mini in .308.
Just my zwei centavos

What is this non-existant rifle that you speak of? Ruger made a .308 Mini (it that would be the proper term, they called it the XGI) prototype, but it never went into production. They also made the Mini 30 in 7.62x39

Pony Express
November 8, 2009, 08:14 PM
Any reason not to have a shotgun? A good ole 12 gauge would be my first choice for a truck gun-endless possibilities for ammo, cheap, etc.

Mags
November 8, 2009, 09:09 PM
buy A ruger mini in .308 What you mean the Mini 30 in 7.62 x 39? I Ruger made a mini 308 I would be interested.

Arkansas Paul
November 8, 2009, 09:23 PM
Weatherby Vangaurds can be had for under $400 brand new. Where are you getting a Ruger mini for that price?

AndyJ
November 8, 2009, 09:26 PM
This thread confused me for a time. I think you are looking for a defensive SHTF rifle to carry in your truck. Around here a "truck gun" is a reliable sometimes beater used to dispatch 4 legged critters and other flying/crawling varmints.

Gelgoog
November 8, 2009, 09:31 PM
The way I see it, is if your at your vehicle, then you have no need for a weapon much past 100 yards. If a target is further out then you need to be using that vehicle to escape and evade.

This is why I think a cheap shotgun will do the trick. a mixture of slugs and buckshot will take care of any threats within 100 yards. The gun itself can be had for less than 300 and it has a pretty high fear factor. It also is not very suspicious having a shotgun in your vehicle as you can tell the police it is for hunting.

Isher
November 8, 2009, 09:32 PM
Andy -

+1

Uncle Mike
November 8, 2009, 10:07 PM
I used to carry a SKS, later I put a Tapco pistol grip stock on it, cut the barrel back to 16.25"...sweet little truck gun. Plenty powerful enough for critters up to and including deer.

Then I got a hair and started carrying a No.7 Jungle carbine(Enfield SMLE) in .308.

Now, it's back to the SKS...so my vote after use of them both goes to the SKS...with the Tapco Pistol grip, 6-position adjustable stock.

DougW
November 9, 2009, 09:27 PM
My truck gun is a Daly 1911A1 backing up the Bersa Thunder .380. Can't quite fit a long arm unless it is in the floor of the back seat.

mljdeckard
November 9, 2009, 10:07 PM
Here's what I did.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=453341

sledhead76
November 10, 2009, 02:35 AM
I agree with a few of the earlier posts, I don't think a bolt action lends itself to the "truck gun" idea. Marlin 336 is pretty versatile, and you should be able to find a used ruger mini well within your budget.

Ignition Override
November 10, 2009, 02:41 AM
A Norinco SKS.
If a break-in is a real possibility, a MN 44 might be less attractive to a thief and costs less to replace ($150 for very good ones at our Sept gun show).

mljdeckard might have mentioned a new rear sight which can be added to the SKS, which lengthens the sight distance.

rondog
November 10, 2009, 04:58 AM
Jeez, I don't know what you're planning on defending against, but I'd think an M1 carbine would tackle anything smaller than a bear, and I'd also bet one would put a decent hurtin' on an average bear.

Small, lightweight, quick-handling, high enough power, high enough capacity, extra mags easy to store, and still affordable. That would work for me!

And they have class.....

memphisjim
November 10, 2009, 05:45 AM
wouldnt a mini14 in 308 no longer be a mini and therefore a m14

John Parker
November 10, 2009, 07:04 AM
A surplus bolt-action rifle or a lever action would fill the requirements of a truck gun nicely and would be far less likely to provoke a hysterical reaction by a cop on a traffic stop, car theives looking to score, or a soccer mom who happens to see it as she passes the car... (I know you'll have it hidden, but sometimes Murphy gets bored.)
I'll vote for the Mosin. And at $69.95, if it gets stolen, who cares?

mljdeckard
November 10, 2009, 01:38 PM
Read the thread. I added it already.

Legionnaire
November 10, 2009, 04:36 PM
That Remington pump rifle is cool ...
Don't know what the laws are in your location, but in many jurisdictions it's illegal to have a loaded rifle in a vehicle. So that suggests a magazine-fed rifle of some sort. Think my choice would be an older Remington 760 in .30-06. They are far more plentiful and less expensive than .308s. I'd cut the barrel down to 18 inches or so, shorten the stock a touch, and mount a low power fixed magnification scope on it ... say a 2.5X, 4X max. Buy a couple of spare magazines, and you'd be good to go with a very versatile package in a readily-available cartridge that could be loaded and deployed quickly. A 760 carbine in .308 would be excellent, but they are much more rare, and typically more expensive than .30-06 specimens ... unless already beat up.

76shuvlinoff
November 10, 2009, 06:52 PM
If my Marlin 1894c in .357 wasn't so damn pretty I think it would be an excellent truck gun.

Fast little carbine, politically correct to look at and roll your own if you can't buy a load hot enough for your personal tastes.

Since I'm loath to beat it up in my truck I keep it stoked beside the 870 next to the bed.

EdLaver
November 10, 2009, 07:15 PM
I would choose the cheapest most reliable and fairy compact, a Saiga in .223. If capacity isnt really an issue you can have the smaller capacity mags and maybe one of the 30 rounders. .223 is readily available and would be a good SHTF caliber to have. Also, if someone broke into your truck and ended up stealing it, you wouldn't be out too much.

Lawnman380
November 10, 2009, 07:24 PM
How about this.....http://www.summitgunbroker.com/Ruger_PC_carbine.html

OrangePwrx9
November 10, 2009, 09:23 PM
76shuvlinoff:
+1 on the Marlin 1894C; good choice but too cute.

EvanWilliams
November 10, 2009, 10:26 PM
Man, let me know when that Mini 14 in 308 comes out. I am all over it!!!

1200 meters
November 13, 2009, 11:01 AM
Sorry for the misunderstanding.. I reload a lot and all of the bullets for .30 cal are normally .308, so when I mentioned .308 for the mini ruger i was thinking of the bullts caliber not the round..&.62 is a 7.62 or .308.Granted there are differences in Velocities.and individual weights. I was talking of the Ruger mini in(7.62 X 39).
Didn't mean to get some of you all excited, because if indeed they build 7.62 by 54 I'd own one.

MT GUNNY
November 13, 2009, 01:05 PM
AK WASR type!

bearmgc
November 13, 2009, 01:22 PM
Marlin 30-30 or my favorite, Marlin 44sp/44mag, my truck gun.

Fiv3r
November 13, 2009, 01:27 PM
Well for a truck gun i guess it depends on what you really need it for. As for personal gotta have it now protection, I always have a pistol on me.

My truck gun rotates between a .22 Marlin 60 or a Stoeger Condor Outback 12 gauge. i tried packing an old MN, but it was just a little too long and too slow to load. The .22 or shottie is a great set up. I can take out most small game with either, and neither raises a lot of eyebrows in southern indiana. Ammo is cheap and easy to find too.

I was looking very hard at some AK's today though;)

Sheepdog1968
November 13, 2009, 04:17 PM
Used mini-14 or mini-30 would fit the bill quite nicely. Very ruggad and accurate enough for your distance.

Ignition Override
November 13, 2009, 08:50 PM
On second thought, if theft is not an issue:
A Lee-Enfield "Jungle Carbine" can be your best friend, as it was for a guy who stopped a charging grizzly with four very quick rounds.
A right-handed guy can cycle rounds very quickly, or so believed many deutsche Soldaten in WW1/2.

For the price of a used Mini 14 or 30 you might find a decent LE #5 for about $400 at a gun show. My latest listed for $350 at the Sept. Memphis show. As handy and about as light as an M-1 Carbine, but a 147-grain lead tipped bullet instead of 110, at the same muzzle velocity.

The LE has the same number of magazine rounds as a typical SKS. Ammo can be reloaded at about .30/round.

The Deer Hunter
November 13, 2009, 09:23 PM
Surplus M44 Mosin nagant: $69 at S mart, including ammo ouch, oiler bottle, and cleaning rod.

Easy to replace, not an AK, probably not too useful as a gun if stolen. They also have several built-in functions such as (but not limited to): gun, stabber, screwdriver, mallet, paddle, firewood, spare drive shaft, Mastodon toothpick.

JUNKTOTREASURE
November 13, 2009, 09:31 PM
perfect truck gun 7mm08 model 7 if you get the youth model it's a lot cheaper all you have to do is put a extra slip on recoil pad on and you have the same as adult model. mine works great for truck1

bubbaturbo
November 14, 2009, 09:06 AM
Those of you who think you'll get some kind of consideration or free pass from the police or a "soccer mom" because they see you have a lever action instead of an AK47 have gotten carried away by internet fantasies. You're dreamin'.

sarduy
November 14, 2009, 08:54 PM
i recommend you the Sub2000 .40 with a Glock 22

http://i43.tinypic.com/2m349w5.jpg

tractorshaft
November 14, 2009, 09:09 PM
Here is a little pawnshop Marlin 336 I worked over in my garage shop for a 4-wheeler/pickup gun. Perfect for my purposes and quite the shooter.

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/Tractorshaft/336_1.jpg

amd6547
November 15, 2009, 12:12 AM
Lots of great weapons suggested, but I come from the opinion that my truck rifle should be able to take abuse, should be simple and reliable, and should be able to punch through cover at 100 yards. It should be capable of fast loading, so it may be kept empty till needed. It should be cheap, so it will not be a great loss if stolen or destroyed in a car accident. It should be compact.
Here is my Carcano carbine...a very slick bolt gun (one of the slickest bolts I have used) with six-shot charger loading:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/amd6547/P1000671.jpg

Averageman
November 15, 2009, 05:09 AM
Thats Tractorshaft's Marlin I mentioned earlier in this thread. Thanks for posting it, it is a beauty and in my opinon as good as it gets in a truckgun.
My brother has my Marlin now and I am piling up the parts, sights, scope etc. The local 'smith is cutting my barrel back to 16 1/4.
It's number 3 on my list of things to do when I get back to the States.

chas08
November 15, 2009, 09:31 AM
I've used a Rossi .44 magnum lever action in this roll for years. But it may soon be replaced by a Marlin 1895 GG in 45/70 I purchased recently. It would be hard to go wrong with a lever action 30/30 though.

McBuck
November 20, 2009, 09:38 PM
THAT...is the coolest 336 I have ever seen ! I want one.

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