[megatronrules]

I just bought a box of these at wally world they are the 125gr. jsp's and am just wondering if they perform ok as far as expantion and penatration? Has anyone here tested these in say milk jugs filled with water or even geletain? I was carrying 158gr.+p lswchp but they were old and need to be replaced I felt. At any rate do you feel these are a decent round for a j frame revolver? I coulden't find anything on ammolab about these bullets either so thats why I'am asking here thanks guys.

[BryanP]

You might be better off asking over in the Revolver forum.

[megatronrules]

good idea bryanp

[ACP]

I just copied this from the +p thread below. The personal protection load looks pretty good...

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American Handgunner, Jan/Feb 1998

+p vs. standard catridge (2" S&W 442)
110-gr. std. 722 fps. 3.6/ft. lbs. recoil
110-gr. +p 891 fps 5.2 ft. lbs. recoil

They say tt is an 18.9% velocity increase with a 30.8% recoil increase.

The article says +p is better in .38 Special because maufacturers have spent so much time designing good bullets around the higher pressures.

FWIW, from handgunsmag.com I have also some ballistic data for .38 Special loads from a 2" snubby. Shots were fired into bare and clothed gelatin. Briefly, the averages:

Fed. +p 129-gr HS -- 810 fps, 13.64" penetration, .48" expansion
Fed. +p 129-gr. Nyclad -- 874 fps, 9.3, .69
Fed. +p 158-gr. Nyclad -- 760 fps, 19, .37 (i.e. none)
Winch. +p 158-gr. LSWCHP -- 821 fps, 16.2, .44
Winch. +p 125-gr. SJHP -- 723 fps, 16.5, .42
Winch. +p 125-gr. Silvertip -- 726 fps, 13.1, .55

Winch. +p 130gr. SXT personal protection -- 825 fps, 14.6, .56

Speer +p 125-gr. GDHP -- 823 fps, 13.4, .60
Remington +p 125-gr. Golden Saber -- 824, 10.9, .53

Based on pure numbers, the Winch. Personal Protection and the Speer Gold Dot look good. I carry the heavy Winchester load -- I just shot it yesterday at the range (along with some Golden Sabers). The heavier round just "feels good" to me out of my S&W 642 Airweight.