[AbductedRedneck]

howdy, im new to the forum and to black powder but im looking for a cheap rifle just for something new.

i have no clue about black powder guns, calibers, barrel lengths ect. can someone help me?

whats a good brand? thanks :)

[timberwolf204]

well black powder guns are fun cheap gun a cva bobcat or mountain rifle is a cheap way to go, my question to you is do you want inline like a thompson omega, a caplock or flintlock. You will find out that it is very addicting once you get one. I have a thompson center omega. I love it, for some they dont like them, I also have a thompson center hawken flintlock and love that too. Here in Pennsylvania our late season is flintlock only. Thompson also stands by their guarantee. check them out they cost a bit more, but I have sent some parts for repair and I can say they do stand behind their work. www.tcarms.com

[Smokin_Gun]

Welcome to the Darkside...
New or used you can't go too far wrong getting a Thompson Center Hawken .50cal or your choice.
Cabelas would have Traditions Hawkens and other rifles ... good prices for new.
The Lyman Great Plains Rifle is one of the most authentic makes and a great rifle not cheap.
Tennessee Mountain Rifle, Kentucky Rifle, Pennsylvania, flintlock and caplock.
Try Cabelas ... ;O)

[badpenny]

Redneck if you will check with Gunmaster in Plano, they had a couple of good used muzzleloaders there.

[BCRider]

Are you using this to try out some old tyme shootin' or to get a modern muzzle loader to take advantage of the hunting season extensions for muzzle loaders?

Or you can do a bit of both by going with some of the percussion options noted above. At the risk of getting The Look from the others here I'd suggest that you stick to a percussion side lock if you want to blend tradition with hunting. The flintlock can wait for a while until you're more comfy with the other aspects of muzzle loading.

[AbductedRedneck]

wow bunch of good options here. thanks everybody, im gonna go check some differnet places this weekend maybe. thanks timberwolf i like the looks of the omega