10.5" 458 SOCOM + aluminum slugs = FIREBALL


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Big44mag
November 10, 2009, 12:23 PM
Not the greatest pics in the world but it will give you an idea.

Just though I'd share.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/458%20shorty/458flash1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/458%20shorty/458flash2.jpg

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cottonmouth
November 10, 2009, 12:47 PM
Wow!

J.B.

highorder
November 10, 2009, 12:53 PM
Load details please?

Better pic of the muzzle device as well?

:)

P90Puma
November 10, 2009, 01:03 PM
Those are frames from a video, why not just post the video?

Intense fireball.

12many
November 10, 2009, 01:06 PM
Not good.

RevolvingGarbage
November 10, 2009, 01:13 PM
Id be worried about the safety of my eyebrows with that thing erupting in a little lane stall like that.

Eightball
November 10, 2009, 04:25 PM
Hey, you can shoot and BBQ at the same time! What a time saver!

nwilliams
November 10, 2009, 05:11 PM
WOW! I can't imagine any indoor range allowing people to shoot a 458!

cat_IT_guy
November 10, 2009, 09:39 PM
Awesome! Another vote for uploading the video though.

Mandolin
November 10, 2009, 10:57 PM
WHat's the noise like? I imagine it is going to replace the M91/44 as the "very big bang and huge flash" weapon of choice. BTW, what are you doing with .458 in a 10.5 inch barrel?

Bwana John
November 10, 2009, 11:01 PM
Aluminum slugs ?????

highorder
November 11, 2009, 11:02 AM
BTW, what are you doing with .458 in a 10.5 inch barrel?

I'd imagine its built for CQB.

The .458 SOCOM is meant to put bad guys down for good, using 136 year old ballistics in a 45 year old design. ;)

achildofthesky
November 11, 2009, 02:36 PM
Would the bore be subject to "aluminuming" with Al bullets?

halfded
November 11, 2009, 03:10 PM
Sweet!

Big44mag
November 11, 2009, 05:31 PM
Load details please?

34gr of Alliant 2400
Lehigh 100gr CQB slugs
COL 2.067
Velocity out of my 16” 458 is around 2850fps but I haven’t used the chronograph on my 10.5” with this load yet.

Better pic of the muzzle device as well?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/458%20shorty/1007090826.jpg


Those are frames from a video, why not just post the video?

I didn’t have an editor at the time.


Id be worried about the safety of my eyebrows with that thing erupting in a little lane stall like that.

Not as bad as you would think, more bright than anything else.



WOW! I can't imagine any indoor range allowing people to shoot a 458!

Ballistics are on par with a 45/70 so as long as your range can handle that you’d be ok. It was empty, the closest shooter was several bays away and we know each other so he was ok with it.

WHat's the noise like? I imagine it is going to replace the M91/44 as the "very big banf and huge flash" weapon of choice. BTW, what are you doing with .458 in a 10.5 inch barrel?

It is extremely loud with those slugs, the 405, 300 and 325gr slugs I normally shoot have a good bit of pop but the aluminum ones have an amazing boom to them. Why not a 10.5” 458?, going from a 16" to a 10.5" I only lose about 80fps. That is with 300, 325 and 405gr slugs though, like I said before, I haven't chronographed these yet.


Aluminum slugs ?????

Yes, aluminum.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/Alu1-1.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/Alu2-1.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/Alu3-1.jpg

I'd imagine its built for CQB.

That is what they are advertized as, Defense / CQB. I couldn’t imagine shooting that in a dark house without hearing protection though. I did some testing on phonebooks and the slug managed to make it into the second book, the only deformation was the aluminum surrounding the hollow cavity snapped off into 3 or 4 separate pieces like petals but the rest of the slug stayed together. Unfortunately I can’t find that slug or I would post pics.

Would the bore be subject to "aluminuming" with Al bullets?

Not that I know of, they are coated with a film from the factory I assume to keep that from happening.

Here is the vid, just had to shorten it a bit.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/th_458shorty.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/?action=view&current=458shorty.flv)

RedLion
November 11, 2009, 06:33 PM
what's the advantage with aluminum slugs?

Big44mag
November 11, 2009, 06:57 PM
According to the manufacturer they were designed for high impact low penetration, it works but the side effect is the flash.

Good or bad I guess is left to the discrepancy of the user.

Mandolin
November 11, 2009, 07:23 PM
Now that's a hollowpoint!

LiquidTension
November 12, 2009, 10:31 AM
I suddenly have an intense longing for a device such as this.

halfded
November 12, 2009, 03:51 PM
I got hold of that sucker last weekend. All I have to say is WOW! :what:

Dimis
November 12, 2009, 11:14 PM
wow now i have a reason to recycle all those beer cans lol

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