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PT1911
November 11, 2009, 05:48 PM
I recently posted a poll for advice as to which gun to buy...

a remington R-25, a polytech M-14, or a PTR-91.

well, after much consideration and deliberation (with myself:eek:)I chose to go with the PTR-91. I recently purchased a Rock River LAR-15 set up for long range shooting so I couldnt see myself replicating that format...
AS MUCH AS I WANTED TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And the polytechs seem to have a questionable reputation as either GREAT or a great purchase for to throw money at (grammar deliberate.)

So I got the PTR-91. I really like this gun...pretty much everything about it. I like the peep sight system on it as unique as it is and I look forward to shooting it to see whether or not the recoil system is as effective as I have been told and if it shoots as well as I have seen and been told.

So.. what is the overall impression of this gun?

The Good?:D
The Bad?:fire:
The Ugly?:scrutiny:

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bk1
November 11, 2009, 09:53 PM
My main issue with it is that it is picky when it comes to surplus ammo. As long as you stick with commercial .308 it's fine. Any surplus though, buy a small amount to use as a test first.

Frankl03
November 11, 2009, 10:24 PM
I have an older PTR 91. I shoots great and I don't think its picky with ammo like the newer ones. Everyone seems to think the recoil is bad or harsh. I don't think its bad at all. I have only shot mine a couple times. I would like to put a scope on it. I like the heft and feel of it.

Pic of mine:

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm256/Frankl03/HPIM0922.jpg

TexasRifleman
November 11, 2009, 10:24 PM
The Good?
The Bad?
The Ugly?

Good: Magazines less than 4 bucks each :)

Bad: Beats the snot out of brass. If you reload you will want the port buffer. Even then it's pretty hard on brass.

Ugly: Yeah, it's pretty ugly. The sights aren't the greatest I've ever seen.

Mine has been utterly reliable, even with all manner of surplus ammo. Hope yours is too.

Cmdr. Gravez0r
November 11, 2009, 10:39 PM
Too bad you didn't consider the FAL! Professional, lean like a cheetah...a man's rifle.

PT1911
November 12, 2009, 03:54 AM
Lean like a cheetah.... well... I like the feel of the PTR... I look forward to trying it out and reporting my impression. I have every confidence that the gun will perform perfectly. Now to find some 308 ammunition in some sort of quantity... I see my gun buying slowing for a bit while I stock up on some ammo...

need to get some bulk 308, 223, and 7.62x25.

MOSTLY THE 308.

btw it is the PT-91kf
http://www.ptr91.com/

Maverick223
November 12, 2009, 10:52 AM
...But the PTR-91 is accurate like a cobra...something that can't be said about the FAL, not that it is inaccurate just not to the degree of the PTR IMO.

:)

HGUNHNTR
November 12, 2009, 06:10 PM
My PTR has been great, just steer clear of Magtech .308.

Great rifle. Minimal recoil for .308, mag release is a bit tough to reach for my fingers but that is my biggest gripe.

PT1911
November 16, 2009, 03:34 AM
so are there any fellow PTRers here among the THRers?

zt77
November 16, 2009, 12:35 PM
I had two ptr-91's. great rifles, recoil is minimal for the cartridge. as others have said, it is rather picky about ammo and besides the flutes that sometimes will not size out, they leave a huge dent in the side of the case. it doesn't help that port buffers are hard to find. and bayonet lugs.

btw, I sold both of them yesterday as I just came into a pair of '81 hk's, a 91 and a 93. I hear that ptr's are identical to hk and even made on same tooling.

simply put though, they resale much less.

Tully M. Pick
November 16, 2009, 12:44 PM
simply put though, they resale much less.
It's ok, it's the same gun for a lot less money.

zt77
November 16, 2009, 12:54 PM
they are a lot less money
their appreciation isn't much
hk's appreciate like few other brands. are hk's worth their price? of course not.

but $400 for a 91, which brand would you choose....?

Maverick223
November 16, 2009, 01:23 PM
but $400 for a 91, which brand would you choose....?I'll take one...or ten...or how many do they have?

You sir, stole that rifle.

:)

zt77
November 16, 2009, 01:35 PM
I would have also taken all she had, if she had more.
An old lady I know, her husband bought a 91 and 93 in 1982. She insisted on the same price he paid for them, and she had his reciept.

Maverick223
November 16, 2009, 05:35 PM
She insisted on the same price he paid for them, and she had his reciept.Man she drove a hard bargain. :p

chauncey
November 17, 2009, 12:08 AM
I'd try Portuguese surplus and Federal American Eagle. that's what mine likes best.

mine will work with Hirtenberger and South African, although there are a lot of reports with people that have a serial number starting with AW**** having trouble with this ammo. it also likes Magtech, and feed Lithuanian reliably but it won't put 3 shots of the Lithuanian on a 12" piece of paper!

go to "HKPro" there is a lot of good info over there, for this rifle. look at the "Clone Talk" forum.

sprice
November 17, 2009, 12:10 AM
I went through the ''.308 battle rifle'' thing too. I picked the fal. I never got the fal. I decided I'd just get an AR and a long range bolt action instead lol. Not sure if that's the best choice but I am happy with it. :)

Tully M. Pick
November 17, 2009, 12:27 AM
Dang, zt. That's a good deal. If I could find one for that price I'd buy one for sure.

Destructo6
November 17, 2009, 03:41 PM
Any surplus 7.62 ammo should be fine, so long as it has the NATO cross on it.

Venezuelan CAVIM ammo (no NATO cross) has a reputation for gumming up HKs after about 60 rounds.

The good is that HK stuff is at, or close to, an all-time cost low. You can get forearms, buttstocks, gripframes, magazines, etc, for a fraction of what they cost 10 years ago.

The one thing I don't like about semi HKs is that they usually only offer the push-button magazine release instead of the flapper + push-button.

The worst part of any 7.62 NATO battle rifle is the current cost of ammo.

stubbicatt
November 17, 2009, 04:16 PM
Love mine. Hope you have as good success with yours as I have had.

bk1
November 17, 2009, 04:45 PM
Like I said earlier, mine is picky about ammo. Try a small sample of ammo before you stock up on any one kind.

geolemer
November 17, 2009, 05:38 PM
The PTR 91 is based on a more successful platform then the M14, AR10, or FAL, you made the right decision.

Maverick223
November 17, 2009, 05:43 PM
The PTR 91 is based on a more successful platform then the M14, AR10, or FALHow do you figure that? The others are still in service (the M14 and AR10 for the US military), same as the G3. :confused:

RX-178
November 17, 2009, 06:36 PM
Fellow PTR person over here.

I sunk more money into that thing than I wanted to... the real sad part about that is that it worked great right out of the box too. :D

I'd say without hesitation that it's my favorite rifle, and 2nd favorite firearm in general.

vanfunk
November 17, 2009, 09:10 PM
The PTR 91 is based on a more successful platform then the M14, AR10, or FAL

How do you figure that? The others are still in service (the M14 and AR10 for the US military), same as the G3.

Well, if you look at sheer production figures, the G3 is far, far more successful than the M14. The popular opinion of U.S. civilians, however, would suggest otherwise (though the civilian variant of the M14 (M1A) has been available for sale for far longer than the true civilian variants of the G3 (HK91, FMP G3, PTR-91, etc.)) The M1A has a certain buoyancy because it was made here. The M14 is still in service, mostly, because we still have some of them, not necessaily because they're the best choice for the job (and that's coming from an M1A lover).

edited to add: The AR10 scarcely bares mentioning, as it was never produced in any sufficient quantity to be relevant in discussion. Its production figures don't even rate a "marginal" ranking.
vanfunk

Mags
November 17, 2009, 09:34 PM
Whats up with Magtech 308? I am considering purchasin a few hundred rounds at 60 cents a round. Whats wrong with the stuff?

PT1911
February 12, 2010, 03:51 PM
so I was handling my PTR after getting the collapsible stock for it and was curious. Other than making it more portable, it there really any function to the collapsed mode? essentially turns it into a gun to fire from the hip until the stock is extended again.. All that said, I think it is cool as hell though I havent shot it with the collapsible on it yet...not sure how the recoil will translate.

Tully M. Pick
February 12, 2010, 04:24 PM
Other than making it more portable, it there really any function to the collapsed mode?
Launching grenades.

NG VI
February 12, 2010, 04:49 PM
Collapsible is more stowable, really helps out when slung, but I can't imagine it is a better stock than the fixed stock as far as stockly duties go.

As far as the G3 being more proven, I believe it was the FAL that earned itself the nickname "right arm of the free world", wasn't it? Wasn't it in service with something like sixty to eighty nations, or am I confusing it with Glocks list of users?

Gelgoog
February 12, 2010, 05:24 PM
FYI PT1911, you can pickup mags at Cheaper than dirt for 97 cents a piece right now. I bought 30 and they are all in great condition, several of them were new still in their wrapper.

PT1911
February 12, 2010, 05:27 PM
I got like 15 of em with the rifle, but i will look into the ones at cheaper than dirt as well. I figured the collapsible was more of a slinging function... I like it anyhow though i will likely shoot it mostly with the fixed stock..

Frankl03
February 12, 2010, 05:32 PM
I shoot mine with the collapsible stock. I like the way it shoots. I have yet to try the regular stuck all though I'm sure I will. Also I have a small rifle bag I carry it in so it nice to collapse the stock and put it in the bag.

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